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coconono posted:Buff allegedly shot his dad during a domestic dispute so he's cool with me. I never hated Buff, honestly. He was fine in the ring before he broke his neck, not great but he was fine, and his character work after he came back was good. Too bad they hosed up his return.
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Randaconda posted:I never hated Buff, honestly. He was fine in the ring before he broke his neck, not great but he was fine, and his character work after he came back was good. Too bad they hosed up his return. There was never a better time to push Buff than when he came back from that gruesome neck injury. but for some insane reason they had Buff join the man who injured him, and this was a year before Russo joined.
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Mar 9, 2020 18:15
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I will admit to secretly liking buff bagwell as a kid he was built like a cartoon character and the buff blockbuster ruled, and I was a sucker for big hats and catchphrases that rhyme edit: I also kind of liked rob conway, both because of his theme and because he reminded me of buff
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Mar 9, 2020 18:18
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Lunatic Sledge posted:I will admit to secretly liking buff bagwell as a kid Yeah, big Buff mark back in the 90s. He was like a walking pair of JNCOs. Rob's a nice guy IRL. Lives down on the Indiana side of Louisville. Bumped into him twice and didn't realize who he was.
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Mar 9, 2020 18:25
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coconono posted:Buff allegedly shot his dad during a domestic dispute so he's cool with me. It was a shoot brother
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Mar 9, 2020 18:35
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I have absolutely no shame in saying I was a Bagwell fan. First he was teaming up with the coolest guy ever in 2 Cold. And that was cool. Then he was teaming up with the Patriot and I was just amused by the idea that he just jumped partners and completely changed his whole act to match the guy. Then he was an American Male and it was just funny. And then he had the sense to answer a nWo open tryout, became a cartoon character, never stopped trash talking the camera even while wrestling, and started teaming up with Scott Norton. And then I was in love.
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Mar 9, 2020 19:19
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Yeah, Buff joining the nwo made a lot of sense. He was the poo poo-talking buddy of the evil jock in every 90s teenage comedy, how could he not be part of the nwo?
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Mar 9, 2020 19:22
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Bagwell even got involved in the Sting/Luger thing at one point as their mutual friend who got caught up. So like how could I not like him?
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Mar 9, 2020 19:26
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Bagwell was the kind of masculine my 18 year old rear end aspired to be.
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Mar 9, 2020 19:27
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Buff was a great first level boss for the NWO.
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Mar 9, 2020 19:42
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LOL, apparently I should spend more time on this forum talking about things I thought are/were bad so I can get replies from like 20 people saying how great said things are/were. (No I don't think there's some grand conspiracy against me or anything weird like that, I just seem to be on a streak of going against the tide lately) Also, I wasn't watching during his "American Males" stint or any of his earlier stuff, I only ever saw his nWo run and then when he had the top hat, and he just made me want to change the channel whenever he was on. But I also didn't like Lance Storm in WCW (I've come around on him somewhat since) so I'm used to being alone in my WCW opinions by now.
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Mar 9, 2020 20:00
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I think you're all explaining why they didn't pull the trigger on a Buff face turn in '98.
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Mar 9, 2020 20:01
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I think you're gonna find that people like all sorts of different things. Was Buff the greatest technical wrestler that ever lived? Nope Was he the greatest charismatic wrestler? Nope Was he buff and stuff? hell yeah.
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ChrisBTY posted:I think you're all explaining why they didn't pull the trigger on a Buff face turn in '98. The weird thing is that WCW did the actual logical thing, since Rick Steiner had broke his neck, but he had so much sympathy and come back so early they should have done what they usually did and ignored logical booking and tried a face push.
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coconono posted:I think you're gonna find that people like all sorts of different things. Making everybody the same has been ruining WWE for like 15 years now, so I agree.
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Mar 9, 2020 20:26
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coconono posted:I think you're gonna find that people like all sorts of different things. The same way that I hear Bryan and Vinny say that Hulk hogan is just perfect at "Being Hulk Hogan", it's pretty much the same thing with Buff
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Mar 9, 2020 21:03
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ChrisBTY posted:I think you're all explaining why they didn't pull the trigger on a Buff face turn in '98. It would be dishonest to say its my "favorite thing about Buff" because there's a lot of things I'd say are my favorite thing about Buff. But my favorite thing about Buff is that time they did turn him face and have him be the focal point of a big face group of Benoit, Dean, and Saturn and then the next week he was just gone and Shane Douglas had been recast in his role. I want to know the man who said "I don't think Buff will work as the leader of this upstart face group... lets use the Franchise instead." I also love Shane Douglas and have no shame about it.
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Mar 9, 2020 21:11
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DJExile posted:The same way that I hear Bryan and Vinny say that Hulk hogan is just perfect at "Being Hulk Hogan", it's pretty much the same thing with Buff Had Hogan decided to plow Mrs Love Sponge with the cameras off, the world would be a much different place.
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Mar 9, 2020 21:24
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Buff and Scott Steiner whether they're on the same side or not was always good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HZGr1K00TM
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overmind2000 posted:Buff and Scott Steiner whether they're on the same side or not was always good oh god, didn't scott stiff the gently caress out of him for this
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Mar 9, 2020 21:29
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DJExile posted:oh god, didn't scott stiff the gently caress out of him for this Scotty apparently legit didn't like Buff
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Mar 9, 2020 21:33
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DJExile posted:oh god, didn't scott stiff the gently caress out of him for this Pretty much, yeah
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Best Buff Bagwell moment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsHja1TU1c0
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The actual best American Males thing is the video that Riggs and Bagwell had made themselves to pitch the gimmick (to Jimmy Hart, IIRC), which is set to, of all things, A-Ha's "Lie Down In Darkness" from their 1993 album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wrh5j7v6DuQ It's actually incredibly well-made, to the point that there's a mirror of it on another account mistakenly framing it as an official video for the song. The actual Males intro video that aired on TV is *also* really well-produced, but it's got an awful instrumental version of the terrible actual American Males theme song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKzK-mGFUyI
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I have never seen that first video before and I want to thank you so much for this wonderful gift. Also I am now completely heartbroken that we never had Spice as the third in the American Males poly relationship. What could have been.
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coconono posted:I think you're gonna find that people like all sorts of different things. There was a night he was Buff and Stuff and in Buffalo. Naturally, the promo was outstanding.
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As a kid I thought Buff Bagwell was stupid and lame. As an adult I've learned to appreciate what he brought to the table. As others have said, Buff Bagwell is the most Buff Bagwell anyone has ever been, and there's value in that.
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Mar 10, 2020 02:40
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This is the best version of the American Males theme. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YiXZtgIhrq4
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I don't know exactly why or how I ended up watching a bunch of GWF when it was on ESPN in the early 1990s, but I definitely did. The only things that made any impression on me from that show: 1) The Lightning Kid (Sean Waltman) who I thought ruled rear end 2) The Patriot (and the Dark Patriot), who I hated equally 3) Rastan the Voodoo Man, who was so bad I loved him 4) The Handsome Stranger (aka Marcus Bagwell), who was incredibly cheesy but also as a pre-teen I thought was mad corny because his entire gimmick was "he wears a little mask and ladies want to have sex with him" Which is to say that GWF made me a permanent X-Pac mark and made me unfairly biased against Marcus "Buff "The Stuff"" Bagwell, though I played him a lot in WCW/NWO Revenge because his dance taunt and Blockbuster were cool.
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Since everyone is being a good little Buffhead I am going to share something that I don't know if I've ever shared in here since the day I showed it on PSP-TV. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_5gLxffcc8 The Buff Bagwell WCW on QVC special. Please do not share it outside of this thread. These specials were incredibly hard to track down. At the time (only a few years ago) they weren't online anywhere and I had to buy a copy of a dude's VHS tape. It's one of the most entertaining hours of home shopping you'll see. I might reair the other specials on PSP-TV soon.
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Lash LeRoux was the last new thing I remember loving about WCW before I stopped watching wrestling for about eight years, and I can’t make myself go back and watch anything out of fear that he was Actually Bad.
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Takuan posted:As a kid I thought Buff Bagwell was stupid and lame. As an adult I've learned to appreciate what he brought to the table.
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MassRafTer posted:Since everyone is being a good little Buffhead I am going to share something that I don't know if I've ever shared in here since the day I showed it on PSP-TV. Could you post the others in the thread as well? It's been forever since I've seen them on PSP-TV.
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Punch McLightning posted:Lash LeRoux was the last new thing I remember loving about WCW before I stopped watching wrestling for about eight years, and I can’t make myself go back and watch anything out of fear that he was Actually Bad. Lash LeRoux should've been an over-as-gently caress television champion contender at least.
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Punch McLightning posted:This is the best version of the American Males theme. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YiXZtgIhrq4
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Punch McLightning posted:Lash LeRoux was the last new thing I remember loving about WCW before I stopped watching wrestling for about eight years, and I can’t make myself go back and watch anything out of fear that he was Actually Bad. Lash was alright, was just brought up to the main roster way too fast and was green as hell.
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Randaconda posted:Scotty apparently legit didn't like Buff I wish I could remember who it was but didn't someone think Buff was a wuss for getting calf implants? It very well could have been Scotty.
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TheKingslayer posted:I wish I could remember who it was but didn't someone think Buff was a wuss for getting calf implants? It very well could have been Scotty. Maybe? From I what I recall of Scotty's surprisingly coherent shoot, he just thought Buff treated other people like poo poo all the time.
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Scott Steiner is such a bizarre guy to me. He obviously has a sense of right and wrong, poo poo he's not cool with but also a complete juiced out of his mind psycho.
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