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The Walrus posted:either elected officials are getting this at a tremendously unlikely rate or this poo poo is actually already everywhere. its everywhere
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And likely has been for two weeks!
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Mar 10, 2020 23:52
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The Walrus posted:either elected officials are getting this at a tremendously unlikely rate or this poo poo is actually already everywhere. It's everywhere. There was no good reason to suspect it wasn't once we knew that infected people can have mild symptoms or even be totally asymptomatic.
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Mar 10, 2020 23:58
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Antigravitas posted:So, is now a good time to replay The Talos Principle? Open a window so your pets can get out when you pass
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Mar 10, 2020 23:59
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A Pack of Kobolds posted:As you Taintsow, so shall you Taintreap. honestly Taintsower sounds somewhat more ominous even than Taintreaper. How do you sow a taint? Well, do you really want to find out?
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Mar 11, 2020 00:03
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Matt Gaetz went on self-quarantine and now there's no toilet paper from Gulf Shores to Ft. Walton. Also a couple of weeks ago my chest started feeling a little heavy and I had a cough, but I still went to work because I work in food service and rely on tips to live. I'm fine now. I, a super-spreader, gave Matt Gaetz Covid and he gave it to the President. Thank me for my service.
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Mar 11, 2020 00:05
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The Walrus posted:either elected officials are getting this at a tremendously unlikely rate or this poo poo is actually already everywhere. This is the crux of the Iran has hundreds of thousands of cases argument give the % infected in government
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Mar 11, 2020 00:06
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Chief McHeath posted:Matt Gaetz went on self-quarantine and now there's no toilet paper from Gulf Shores to Ft. Walton. 
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Mar 11, 2020 00:20
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Nobody is getting tested in NYC. A coworker's spouse tested positive. They sent everybody home. I now have all symptoms but I cannot get tested because I have not "recently been to Italy or China." Today we got an email from work that they are not even going to test our coworker because they are not yet "showing symptoms." Even though we all know for a fact how easily this spreads and that if one spouse has it, the other is guaranteed to have it. This feels less like incompetence and more like active coverup.
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Mar 11, 2020 00:23
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I wonder which news network in the US is going to become the first 24/7 coronavirus coverage station, probably CNN?
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Mar 11, 2020 00:25
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Gonna head out to stock up on beer and ammunition brb
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Mar 11, 2020 00:28
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friendly 2 da void posted:Nobody is getting tested in NYC. It's such loving bullshit. Like, the time when only people who had been traveling in certain areas could be infected was WEEKS ago. It's been spreading locally since then which just makes it crazy for them to keep claiming that only people who traveled abroad could POSSIBLY have it. I know it's due to not having enough tests and having to triage essentially, but they should just loving say that because everyone knows it anyways
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Mar 11, 2020 00:30
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friendly 2 da void posted:Nobody is getting tested in NYC. The not testing makes sense in many ways, but they're doing a shocking job of explaining the rationale behind it. Because there's no specific treatment for covid-19, supportive care is given based on symptoms. A test result is not going to change the care offered. Likewise, if you're requiring all people with certain symptoms to self-isolate and seek medical care if their symptoms become severe, a test doesn't change anything significant. What is a spouse going to do differently if they know for certain that their partner has covid-19? They should already be doing those things if their partner has reason to self-isolate. I would like to see more testing so we can get a better idea of the true rate of infection in the community and the actual risk of severe complications, but it's not going to change anything at the patient management level. Lolie fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Mar 11, 2020 |
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Mar 11, 2020 00:35
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We are not required to self isolate. All 100 workers on that floor, except for me because I am showing symptoms, are running around the city infecting people right now. I am inside because a) I don't want to infect others and b) I feel like complete poo poo. Both my workplace and NYC have basically told us "you're completely fine! get out there and make some money!" quote:Likewise, if you're requiring all people with certain symptoms to self-isolate and seek medical care if their symptoms become severe, a test doesn't change anything significant. What is a spouse going to do differently if they know for certain that their partner has covid-19? They should already be doing those things if their partner has reason to self-isolate. Are you serious? This virus is contagious for days before you show symptoms. Self isolation when "certain symptoms" show is completely useless. Wait, do you work in NYC public health? Explains a lot.
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Mar 11, 2020 00:42
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Mar 11, 2020 00:47
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You can’t fuckin handle the Roni
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Mar 11, 2020 00:48
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Tourism is way down and we’ve already laid off a bunch of people at my hotel. Winter months are generally slow for tourism in nyc but this is really bad. During the worst years we’ve only laid off housekeeping but now all departments are cutting back, even managers and administrative staff. I’ve already heard of some hotels preparing to close through people I know working at other properties. This is the worst I’ve seen nyc tourism in my 12 years in the industry.
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Mar 11, 2020 00:54
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friendly 2 da void posted:We are not required to self isolate. All 100 workers on that floor, except for me because I am showing symptoms, are running around the city infecting people right now. I am inside because a) I don't want to infect others and b) I feel like complete poo poo. In fact, a new study shows that people are likely at their most infectious before they show major symptoms https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/status/1237525816914759680 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.05.20030502v1
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Mar 11, 2020 00:58
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Play posted:It's such loving bullshit. Like, the time when only people who had been traveling in certain areas could be infected was WEEKS ago. It's been spreading locally since then which just makes it crazy for them to keep claiming that only people who traveled abroad could POSSIBLY have it. I know it's due to not having enough tests and having to triage essentially, but they should just loving say that because everyone knows it anyways Testing now without would be useless: if it's negative it's probably a false negative as it takes a while for throat swabs to become positive. Keep him in isolation and test if he develops symptoms.
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Mar 11, 2020 01:10
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This dude (nurse with doctorate in nursing) makes a point about testing - that the test is designed to be performed after a raft of other viral tests. I'm guessing that other viruses can ping the Covid test? Anyway, the upshot is that while the US govt has subsidised Covid tests... you're still gonna get billed for the others. 
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Mar 11, 2020 01:18
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lofi posted:This dude (nurse with doctorate in nursing) makes a point about testing - that the test is designed to be performed after a raft of other viral tests. I'm guessing that other viruses can ping the Covid test? Anyway, the upshot is that while the US govt has subsidised Covid tests... you're still gonna get billed for the others. I'm no expert on the testing and I'm answering of the top of my head, but as far as I know the WHO test is a pcr looking for certain proteins found in de en envelope of the covid virus. False positives are rare and as far as I know usually a result of user error ( that's what our resident microbiologist reported, haven't looked at any data myself). There are reported cases of covid patients getting false positive result for dengue, I'm not sure how that works. There is no interference with the other 4 Corona viruses routinely tested for ( which are associated with the common cold). One practical way of testing were now undertaking is to start testing people with a presumed diagnosis of pneumonia that haven't responded to antibiotics and/or had negative influenza tests.
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Mar 11, 2020 01:29
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I recently had Corona type 63 thanks to my S/O getting it while we were traveling. I'm ready for the full Corona-chan to embrace me.
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IAMNOTADOCTOR posted:I'm no expert on the testing and I'm answering of the top of my head, but as far as I know the WHO test is a pcr looking for certain proteins found in de en envelope of the covid virus. False positives are rare and as far as I know usually a result of user error ( that's what our resident microbiologist reported, haven't looked at any data myself). There are reported cases of covid patients getting false positive result for dengue, I'm not sure how that works. I'm unaware of the CDC switching to the WHO test, a big part of the reason it got botched is they decided to make their own from scratch
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Objurium posted:So, some updates. That is 100% what I had a week ago, including the same doctor comment about not bothering to test because I didn't have pneumonia.
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Mar 11, 2020 02:09
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The most common symptoms are fever, cough, and shortness of breath. Sore throats, headaches, chills, nasal congestion, etc are all relatively rare for this illness and if you have several of these rare symptoms at the same time the odds are you have something else. It's important to remember that other pathogens have not taken a break just because the Wuhan virus exists. The fact that the news and social media are basically 24/7 talking about the pandemic can undoubtedly lead to confirmation bias/psychosomatic symptoms.
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Mar 11, 2020 02:25
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Good news that is not biased in any way whatsoever: https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/us-markets-march-10-2020
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Mar 11, 2020 02:25
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Payroll tax waiver would be p sweet
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I’ve had a dry cough for a few days now and I’m starting to feel a bit feverish with some muscle soreness. RIP
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Mar 11, 2020 03:07
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i poop too much...then i get tired
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Eat more/only red meat.
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After a big poop I get hungry again because of all the extra space.
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UnknownTarget posted:Posted this in CSPAM but I'm bring it here like the virus itself; We know that the coronavirus is prolific in human throats, places that are well known for being very cold and dry
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Yea but I imagine the warm weather will at least reduce the effective range. Looks like a couple studies (at least one) doubt this, so we'll see. :\
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friendly 2 da void posted:This feels less like incompetence and more like active coverup. Coverup of incompetence.
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Fojar38 posted:The most common symptoms are fever, cough, and shortness of breath. Sore throats, headaches, chills, nasal congestion, etc are all relatively rare for this illness and if you have several of these rare symptoms at the same time the odds are you have something else. Shortness of breath is a pretty damned awful common symptom. There's not a whole lot you can do to prevent getting sick though. Don't travel and try to avoid large groups of people is pretty much all you can do.
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If no one is testing properly, or only people who are going to die soon from it. And everyone knows there are 10s of 1000s if not 100s of 1000s of cases just wondering around without knowing.....doesn't that mean the fatality rate is way way lower than it seems? So yes, we know how many people have been tested and how many people have died or been in serious condition.....but it's universally acknowledged that there are orders of magnitude more people just walking around with it feeling sick. If you add those people to the count.....it doesn't seem to bad? Has this been taken into account? I mean I guess it has.....?
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Illuminti posted:If no one is testing properly, or only people who are going to die soon from it. And everyone knows there are 10s of 1000s if not 100s of 1000s of cases just wondering around without knowing.....doesn't that mean the fatality rate is way way lower than it seems? Yes and the US mortality rate is higher than places like Italy and South Korea as a result
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Lolie posted:The not testing makes sense in many ways No, you loving moron, it doesn't. Available and accurate testing is a cornerstone of effective quarantine efforts. Most nations have rushed to develop effective testing procedures because testing is critically important If you can't accurately identify cases then you cannot effectively isolate them, even if isolation is voluntary. If you tell everyone with certain symptoms to isolate then many of them will use that uncertainty as an excuse to break isolation.
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Ginette Reno posted:Shortness of breath is a pretty damned awful common symptom. I suspect the shortness of breath is the symptom that they're looking out for the most
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