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Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?

Klyith posted:

I had a very similar thing happen and it was totally the search index. Flummoxed me for a bit because after dealing with so many UWP/appx problems related to start & taskbar, I was totally fixated on poo poo like resetting cortana at first.

In my case I solved things by removing some folders that windows had added to indexing locations, turning off content indexing on my media drive (that's in drive properties not search settings), and rebuilding the index.
bit too early too tell for sure, but it does look like restricting the indexed folders fixed it

qsvui posted:

Taskbar icons are convenient because you can press Win+# to open them, e.g. Win+4 to open the 4th item
learn something new everyday

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HalloKitty
Sep 30, 2005

Adjust the bass and let the Alpine blast

Rinkles posted:

learn something new everyday

Was new in W7. A nifty feature

hooah
Feb 6, 2006
WTF?
Recently my computer has stopped putting itself back to sleep/hibernate after waking up to check for updates ("Owner Supplied Reason: Windows will execute 'NT TASK\Microsoft\Windows\UpdateOrchestrator\Universal Orchestrator Start' scheduled task that requested waking the computer."). My power settings say to put the computer to sleep after 15 minutes and hibernate after 30. What could be causing this, and how can I correct it?

i vomit kittens
Apr 25, 2019


WSL2 supposedly going to be part of the April update :toot:

https://www.techspot.com/news/84312-what-new-windows-10-upcoming-april-2020-update.html

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

Nice! Looking forward to installing around October!

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Also very good:

quote:

Another PC enthusiast-oriented feature of Windows 10 2004 (20H1) is an update to the Desktop Window Manager (DWM) that brings improved multiple monitor support when two monitors have mismatched refresh rates. For example, if you have a main gaming monitor running at a high refresh rate and a secondary display running at 60Hz, usually Windows would stutter and show frame-skips, but with hardware-accelerated GPU scheduling in WDDM 2.7, this seems to have been solved. Just make sure you're running the latest drivers for your graphics card.

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!
Well, I'm going to install the slow ring build, to see what the harddware GPU scheduling does practically. I'm probably going to regret this.

WattsvilleBlues
Jan 25, 2005

Every demon wants his pound of flesh

Combat Pretzel posted:

Well, I'm going to install the slow ring build, to see what the harddware GPU scheduling does practically. I'm probably going to regret this.

SA Forums>Serious Hardware/Software Crap>Windows 10: I'm probably going to regret this

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

I have a problem:



I used to be able to "switch" to the monitor on the upper left by moving the mouse hard enough "through" the corner and vice versa.

Starting this month, Windows has decided that it won't allow me to move the mouse to the monitor on the upper left or otherwise meaningfully interact with it.

I have already uninstalled the problematic update likely mentioned earlier, so I'm open to suggestions as to how to make this work again because this feature apparently still works for at least one other person.

To further illustrate the problem, I've moved the upper left monitor down a very slight amount and found a strange "zone" where I can move to the other monitor, but it doesn't include the corners for some reason:



The green line is where the mouse will pass over to the other monitor, and the red zones are "dead zones" that will not move to the other monitor whatsoever.

I have no idea what to do about those "dead zones" and disabling "sticky corners" did not help with this.

Anime Schoolgirl fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Mar 10, 2020

nielsm
Jun 1, 2009



Some suggestions regarding "Sticky Corners" here: https://superuser.com/q/947817

(Sticky corners is intended as a feature to improve Fits's law applicability for the corners between multiple monitors, to make corner elements remain easy to hit as they would be in a single monitor setup.)

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

Combat Pretzel posted:

Well, I'm going to install the slow ring build, to see what the harddware GPU scheduling does practically. I'm probably going to regret this.
At least my Lighthouse base stations fire up and shutdown properly. The last build of 20H1 I tried several weeks ago, the Bluetooth in the VR headset was fubar.

Don't have GPU scheduling so far. Would need to update to the next driver release. Tomorrow or whatever.

SwissArmyDruid
Feb 14, 2014

by sebmojo

Last Chance posted:

Nice! Not looking forward to everything breaking horribly around October!

FTFY

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

I have a problem:



I used to be able to "switch" to the monitor on the upper left by moving the mouse hard enough "through" the corner and vice versa.

Starting this month, Windows has decided that it won't allow me to move the mouse to the monitor on the upper left or otherwise meaningfully interact with it.
As far as I've been able to figure out, crossing a gap just requires enough momentum.

Normally the mouse won't cross between 2 and 3, but if I move it fast enough it will go every time. The smaller I make the gap the slower it can cross, so it feels a lot like clipping through the walls in a video game.


Combat Pretzel posted:

At least my Lighthouse base stations fire up and shutdown properly. The last build of 20H1 I tried several weeks ago, the Bluetooth in the VR headset was fubar.
This hasn't worked for me since like 2017, so if 20H1 fixes it I'll be very happy. Having to crawl under desks to plug and unplug the bases made playing VR more of a hassle than it needs to be.

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

wolrah posted:

As far as I've been able to figure out, crossing a gap just requires enough momentum.

Normally the mouse won't cross between 2 and 3, but if I move it fast enough it will go every time. The smaller I make the gap the slower it can cross, so it feels a lot like clipping through the walls in a video game.

This hasn't worked for me since like 2017, so if 20H1 fixes it I'll be very happy. Having to crawl under desks to plug and unplug the bases made playing VR more of a hassle than it needs to be.
I do not want to arrange the monitors in a way that there is more than just the corner pixel touching, because I dislike the hair trigger nature of the monitor switching if I set the borders up that way. There is no "gap" in my usual setup.

I think the solution for me is to consider multi-monitor a broken feature and thus untenable. Which is infuriating, because the method I used apparently still works with at least one other person.

Anime Schoolgirl fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Mar 11, 2020

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

I do not want to arrange the monitors in a way that there is more than just the corner pixel touching, because I dislike the hair trigger nature of the monitor switching if I set the borders up that way. There is no "gap" in my usual setup.

I think the solution for me is to consider multi-monitor a broken feature and thus untenable. Which is infuriating, because the method I used apparently still works with at least one other person.

Did you try any of the things nielsm linked? The fact that someone else apparently likes to set their monitors like you and made a utility to jump through corners is pretty neat!

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Klyith posted:

Did you try any of the things nielsm linked? The fact that someone else apparently likes to set their monitors like you and made a utility to jump through corners is pretty neat!

That doesn't work.

I even tried flicking the snap options on and off and the registry settings too.

Anime Schoolgirl fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Mar 11, 2020

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

A useful thing from NirSoft:

https://www.ghacks.net/2020/03/11/a-look-at-nirsofts-installedappview-program/ posted:

Note that you may select multiple applications at once to uninstall them all from a single prompt.

Quiet uninstallations work similarly but display a prompt right after selection and stay quiet after confirming the operation.

Many of the internal applications are removed using PowerShell. Note that it is recommended to create a backup of the system before using the tool to remove applications as there is no restore functionality.
https://blog.nirsoft.net/2020/03/10/view-windows-10-apps-with-installedappview/

Javid
Oct 21, 2004

:jpmf:
Having a bizarre issue with a relatively fresh, fully updated windows 10 install on an older device.

If I leave this pc alone for a while, I'll come back to it being completely unresponsive. Poking keys, or moving the mouse, or pushing the power button, all do exactly nothing. I can hold down power to shut it off, then turn it back on, but it just sits unresponsive. The only thing that fixes it is shutting it off, unplugging and replugging the power leads to the motherboard, THEN turning it on.

The really bizarre thing, that makes me think it's a fixable software issue instead of an old board dying, is that when it then boots up, it resumes as if from hibernation. Like the system is somehow auto-hibernating when idle (which it is not configured to do) and then hangs between finishing that and actually turning off, and ???? in memory or something prevents it from coming back?

The fact that it resumes my session makes it less obnoxious than it otherwise could be, but I'd still like to fix it. Any ideas?

I don't know what numbers matter but it says my update level is this



e: I was wrong



this was set to 30 minutes, though the fact that it was failing to resume still is a problem. However, I DEFINITELY set it to "never" when I installed this thing, do updates reset your settings or something?

Javid fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Mar 12, 2020

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

Javid posted:

The really bizarre thing, that makes me think it's a fixable software issue instead of an old board dying, is that when it then boots up, it resumes as if from hibernation. Like the system is somehow auto-hibernating when idle (which it is not configured to do) and then hangs between finishing that and actually turning off, and ???? in memory or something prevents it from coming back?
This part makes me pretty sure that it's somehow related to going to sleep. Windows 10 will do a "safe sleep/hybrid sleep" by default, which is where it basically hibernates and sleeps at the same time, writing a copy of RAM to disk so it doesn't matter if it loses power and/or the system could automatically fall to full hibernation after X time without having to wake back up.

If your session is getting saved to disk that's probably why, which means the computer is probably trying to go to sleep when it locks up.

---

As for an actual reason, memory is always a suspect but I could also see there being something funky with ACPI because that's always been a clusterfuck. Given that it's apparently both saving and restoring the RAM's contents without issue I'd lean more in the ACPI direction, but there's never anything wrong with letting memtest take a night and seeing what happens.

A simple test on the ACPI side would be disabling sleep and hibernate altogether, then letting it go. If it still fails, it's obviously not sleep related. If it doesn't, we're probably on the right path and the next thing to check would be BIOS and motherboard driver revisions.

Javid
Oct 21, 2004

:jpmf:
I've now re-disabled auto-sleep so we'll see what it does.

chutwig
May 28, 2001

BURLAP SATCHEL OF CRACKERJACKS

Before this continues to drive me even more insane: does anyone have any idea what would cause Explorer to stop automatically refreshing? I now have to manually refresh any view when a file changes, and it's really weird and confusing. I already tried twiddling some random registry stuff that the internet told me to without avail.

Koskun
Apr 20, 2004
I worship the ground NinjaPablo walks on
Are you sure you don't have a failing hard drive?

To me it sounds like it is hardware related, and Windows is getting hung up on trying to access something.

Geemer
Nov 4, 2010



chutwig posted:

Before this continues to drive me even more insane: does anyone have any idea what would cause Explorer to stop automatically refreshing? I now have to manually refresh any view when a file changes, and it's really weird and confusing. I already tried twiddling some random registry stuff that the internet told me to without avail.

I've had explorer choke on some files with non-ascii filenames when trying to show previews, resulting in behavior similar to what you're describing. It would also be extremely slow to show the contents of any other folder, including meta folders like the this computer one that shows your drives.

I had to make sure that aside from deleting the offending files, all the entries in quick access and recent files were completely purged and then reboot.


Javid posted:

this was set to 30 minutes, though the fact that it was failing to resume still is a problem. However, I DEFINITELY set it to "never" when I installed this thing, do updates reset your settings or something?

My work computer sometimes resets that setting to max signed 16 bit integer. So, who knows...

wane tendo
Mar 19, 2005

Buglord
i'm going to test this when i get home but does anyone know if Win10 virtual desktop supports separate network configs per desktop?

since i'll be working from home for the foreseeable future (THE VIRUS) i'm hoping to have one configured through my company's VPN and one on my standard connection.

hooah
Feb 6, 2006
WTF?

wane tendo posted:

i'm going to test this when i get home but does anyone know if Win10 virtual desktop supports separate network configs per desktop?

since i'll be working from home for the foreseeable future (THE VIRUS) i'm hoping to have one configured through my company's VPN and one on my standard connection.

Pretty sure they're just ways to organize windows, nothing more. I could be wrong, though.

wane tendo
Mar 19, 2005

Buglord

hooah posted:

Pretty sure they're just ways to organize windows, nothing more. I could be wrong, though.

you were right, altering the net config affects all desktops.

i'm now considering using VirtualBox to spin up a Win10 VM to set up on the tunnel, not sure if i would need two NICs though... might not even be worth the hassle.

Lambert
Apr 15, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Fallen Rib
You can simply set up the VPN inside the VM, works fine that way. Aside of VirtualBox, there's also Hyper-V that comes with Pro versions of Windows and has a handy assistant that will set up a Windows VM for you in a snap.

wane tendo
Mar 19, 2005

Buglord

Lambert posted:

You can simply set up the VPN inside the VM, works fine that way. Aside of VirtualBox, there's also Hyper-V that comes with Pro versions of Windows and has a handy assistant that will set up a Windows VM for you in a snap.

thank you! i completely forget if it's Pro edition but if it is i'll definitely try that first.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

wane tendo posted:

i'm going to test this when i get home but does anyone know if Win10 virtual desktop supports separate network configs per desktop?

since i'll be working from home for the foreseeable future (THE VIRUS) i'm hoping to have one configured through my company's VPN and one on my standard connection.

no, they don't do anything like that

you can set up a Virtual Machine to use a VPN while the host does not send traffic through the VPN (or vice versa), but this is somewhat technical and loving it up could have consequences.

I suggest you act like you are at work while connected to your work VPN, and close the VPN connection to watch porn.

Lambert
Apr 15, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Fallen Rib
Setting up a VPN inside a VM is easy and won't have any repercussions for your host system, it's as easy as setting up a regular VPN. That's the whole point of a VM.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


What's the easiest way of waking my PC remotely these days? I'll be away from it for a couple of weeks, but I'd like to stream Steam occasionally and don't just want to leave it running constantly. The PC is on 10 Pro and has wake on LAN/magic packet enabled, but my laptop is on 10 Home.

chutwig
May 28, 2001

BURLAP SATCHEL OF CRACKERJACKS

Koskun posted:

Are you sure you don't have a failing hard drive?

To me it sounds like it is hardware related, and Windows is getting hung up on trying to access something.

Turned out it was iCloud desktop app fuckery. Removed that and everything started working again.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

What's the easiest way of waking my PC remotely these days? I'll be away from it for a couple of weeks, but I'd like to stream Steam occasionally and don't just want to leave it running constantly. The PC is on 10 Pro and has wake on LAN/magic packet enabled, but my laptop is on 10 Home.

This is a better question for the home networking thread, because the answers mostly depend on what router you have.

The best option would be if your router supports running a VPN server. Then you could VPN onto your home network and send the magic packet directly from your laptop. OTOH, running the game stream through the VPN might not work well depending on the hardware of the router, because encrypting the traffic = additional delay + bandwidth limits.

On the opposite side, you could set your router to just forward all port 7 or 9 traffic to your PC. Write down your home IP before you leave -- they generally don't change that frequently for most ISPs -- and send the ping to that IP. This is kinda the worst option because blindly forwarding traffic is a security risk, and I don't know if magic packets are the type of thing that gets spammed on the internet at random.

Middle of the road, if you have a WRT-style-Linux router that has SSH access, you could open SSH to the outside world. Be sure that your firmware is up to date and you have a strong password for your router. Then you SSH into the router and use nc or ether-wake to do the wake packet.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


Is it really still that complicated? I can remote into my PS4 from anywhere while it's asleep, I assumed there'd be a relatively simple solution for PCs. If so then I'll have to ask in the networking thread.

Doctor_Fruitbat fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Mar 14, 2020

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

Is it really still that complicated? I can remote into my PS4 from anywhere while it's asleep, I assumed there'd be a relatively simple solution for PCs. If so then I'll have to ask in the networking thread.

Your PS4 has a second tiny computer inside that's still turned on while the main system is asleep. And Sony is doing the work of tracking IP addresses and stuff to make remote wake a one button thing. Some server PCs have similar abilities but not a home PC.

The middle option is pretty easy IMO, it's just not the ideal one.

Javid
Oct 21, 2004

:jpmf:
Thought I had the auto-reboots fully locked down but it still somehow decided to reboot in the middle of the night with unsaved poo poo open last night. How do I permanently disable all unattended reboots of any kind forever?

nielsm
Jun 1, 2009



How many days had you been ignoring the warnings for this time?

Javid
Oct 21, 2004

:jpmf:
0, I update this pc ~weekly and manually restart it at that time, the idea behind which was to prevent this exact situation. I don't even know it was an Update Reboot, I just don't know what else it might be

there was not a warning or popup, I just came back to like "chrome crashed unexpectedly" and all my other open docs gone, which is exactly the thing to do to get me to kill the update service with fire instead of trying to stay ahead of it as I have been

Javid fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Mar 15, 2020

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

Watch me pull my dongle out of this tiny box


I don't necessarily want to join the making GBS threads party, and I'm not saying that reboots like that are the right path, but...

Who the gently caress walks away from their computer for long periods of time without at least a CTRL+S?

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nielsm
Jun 1, 2009



Have you positively verified it wasn't power loss/power supply failure/other hardware failure?

A forced reboot wouldn't usually cause applications to enter into "looks like I crashed" mode. They get a reasonable chance to save/shut down their things before the reboot happens.

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