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Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
Youth Code, Rein's first couple of releases, Spark!, Aggrezzior, Orange Sector, Diesel Dudes.

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Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost

mfny posted:

Need some new/modern EBM.. suggestions ?

This list of suggestions go from stuff that's more old school EBM to stuff that's decidedly more in the techno-industrial EBM space:

Orange Sector - Alarm
Klack - Catching Up With Klack
Spark! - Chaos
Wulfband - Revolter
Imperial Black Unit x Sarin - Will to Destroy
Sarin - Moral Cleansing
Imperial Black Unit - State of Pressure
Imperial Black Unit x Reka - Todo Avaricia
Crystal Geometry - State of Play

Edit: oh and any recent Schwefelgelb that takes your fancy if that's your scene.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
Oh gently caress, how did I forget Wulfband? I wasn't as into Revolter but their self-titled is goddamned amazing.

Jehde
Apr 21, 2010

Kontravoid.

Armor-Piercing
Sep 22, 2009

Nightly dance
of bleeding swords


Seconding Wulfband and Kontravoid, also Chrome Corpse.

CherryCola
Apr 15, 2002

'ahtaj alshifa

Jehde posted:

Kontravoid.

Kontravoid is bae. His social media presence is hysterical too

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!
I liked the new Amelia Arsenic.

Hedenius
Aug 23, 2007

A human heart posted:

Please reconsider where you've put this twitter meme - there's a noise thread sitting there alone on page 2 that gets no traffic.

A human heart posted:

Please reconsider where you've put this twitter meme - there's a noise thread sitting there alone on page 2 that gets no traffic.
Should just merge with this thread.

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost

Hedenius posted:

Should just merge with this thread.

Electro industrial like aggrotech stuff and gothy synthpop is pretty far from noise and drone IMHO. Neither thread is high traffic but I think the crossover in artists covered is pretty small.

Also I really like what in this scene gets called rhythmic noise but I guess I probably would have to call it "techno with a bit of distortion" if we were hanging out with real noise fans :v:

Hedenius
Aug 23, 2007

Danger - Octopus! posted:

Electro industrial like aggrotech stuff and gothy synthpop is pretty far from noise and drone IMHO. Neither thread is high traffic but I think the crossover in artists covered is pretty small.

Also I really like what in this scene gets called rhythmic noise but I guess I probably would have to call it "techno with a bit of distortion" if we were hanging out with real noise fans :v:

Crossover in artist may be small but the crossover in fans is pretty big.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
What makes a power noise track / artist power noise, as opposed to some other subgenre?

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!
Being gratuitously on-topic for a moment, Psychophile were a good Brighton goth-scene EBM band in the early 2000s. I have both these CDs in a box somewhere, and my "Vodka Milk" T-shirt hasn't completely worn out. Both albums are up on Bandcamp now.

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWGzDbFUJGc

Just discovered this and thought everyone would enjoy it!

VictualSquid
Feb 29, 2012

Gently enveloping the target with indiscriminate love.
That posing at the end :stare:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMaMPOD_hGU

Whispering Machines
Dec 27, 2005

Monsters? They look like monsters to you?

I love Baby Rammstein.

thotsky
Jun 7, 2005

hot to trot
Definitely merge the threads. Crossover in fans and venues is huge. Same people postin too.

Jehde
Apr 21, 2010

I could go either way, but I do really like the new electro industrial-ish/noise-ish acts like Health, Blanck Mass, and Street Sects. I also genuinely like stuff like Daughters, which feels closer to straight up noise. Don't think I could be bothered to follow a separate thread though.

Is noise just extreme industrial? Like I think about "pure" industrial and I think Einstürzende Neubauten, people banging on metal objects in a warehouse. When I think about noise, it's basically just that, but more.

CherryCola
Apr 15, 2002

'ahtaj alshifa

Jehde posted:

I could go either way, but I do really like the new electro industrial-ish/noise-ish acts like Health, Blanck Mass, and Street Sects. I also genuinely like stuff like Daughters, which feels closer to straight up noise. Don't think I could be bothered to follow a separate thread though.

Is noise just extreme industrial? Like I think about "pure" industrial and I think Einstürzende Neubauten, people banging on metal objects in a warehouse. When I think about noise, it's basically just that, but more.

Yeah I’m really REALLY into Blanck Mass. i feel like expanding the theme of the thread would be god because I’m never sure if like EBM and other obscure dark electro genres fit.

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012

Jehde posted:

I could go either way, but I do really like the new electro industrial-ish/noise-ish acts like Health, Blanck Mass, and Street Sects. I also genuinely like stuff like Daughters, which feels closer to straight up noise. Don't think I could be bothered to follow a separate thread though.

Is noise just extreme industrial? Like I think about "pure" industrial and I think Einstürzende Neubauten, people banging on metal objects in a warehouse. When I think about noise, it's basically just that, but more.

Daughters are a noise rock band and have little to do with actual noise. Noise is this and this and this sort of thing.

Jehde
Apr 21, 2010

Right, noise isn't music. Imagine I said "less electro and more noise rock" instead of "closer to straight up noise"

EBM and related darkwave stuff totally go here.

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012

Jehde posted:

Right, noise isn't music.

Actually, it is, and it would be silly to think otherwise.

W424
Oct 21, 2010
I’m in favor of merging the threads.

Unrelated:

Danger - Octopus! posted:

Electro industrial like aggrotech stuff and gothy synthpop

I allways had the naive idea that electro industrial was like Puppy back when they were good and had to go to loving wikipedia to check out the term. Even the worst subgenre, industrial metal, was mentioned
Its true and it hurts, man.

Kamrat
Nov 27, 2012

Thanks for playing Alone in the dark 2.

Now please fuck off

Kvlt! posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWGzDbFUJGc

Just discovered this and thought everyone would enjoy it!

Very interesting, thanks for sharing! :)

Hedenius
Aug 23, 2007
https://twitter.com/cevinkey/status/1234929975687385088?s=21

Bayham Badger
Jan 19, 2007

Secretly force socialism, communism and imperialism types of government onto the people of the United States of America.


hatelull
Oct 29, 2004

Key probably likes to keep those positive vibes flowing considering his musical buddies tend to OD.

Godmachine
Sep 5, 2004

I am beyond God.
I am Human.
I'm in favor of making a new thread. I starting this thread 9 years ago when I was far more active on SA than I am now. I think the music has evolved considerably since then and the original post should reflect those changes. I'd volunteer but, sadly, my music taste falls more into "cold wave" stuff like Linea Aspera and Minuit Machine nowadays; I don't keep up with Industrial like I used to. Though I'm seeing Skold/3TEETH/Carnifex this weekend.

I'm starting to feel old, goons.

CherryCola
Apr 15, 2002

'ahtaj alshifa

Godmachine posted:

I'm in favor of making a new thread. I starting this thread 9 years ago when I was far more active on SA than I am now. I think the music has evolved considerably since then and the original post should reflect those changes. I'd volunteer but, sadly, my music taste falls more into "cold wave" stuff like Linea Aspera and Minuit Machine nowadays; I don't keep up with Industrial like I used to. Though I'm seeing Skold/3TEETH/Carnifex this weekend.

I'm starting to feel old, goons.

How about like an industrial/darkwave/goth thread? Im also super into stuff like Minuit Machine and evening though they aren’t exactly the same genre, there’s a lot of parallel listener base

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!

Godmachine posted:

I'm in favor of making a new thread. I starting this thread 9 years ago when I was far more active on SA than I am now. I think the music has evolved considerably since then and the original post should reflect those changes. I'd volunteer but, sadly, my music taste falls more into "cold wave" stuff like Linea Aspera and Minuit Machine nowadays; I don't keep up with Industrial like I used to. Though I'm seeing Skold/3TEETH/Carnifex this weekend.

I'm starting to feel old, goons.

it's ok, EBM hasn't advanced in the past 20 years

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
What about making it sort of a general dark music thread? Like if I Die You Die would cover it, it fits sort of thing.

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost
Agreeing re the ID:YD categorisation above.

I guess I feel that a new thread should be for the broad ground of artists that goth/industrial fests and clubs would play as well as less dancefloor oriented stuff.. whether it's trad goth and postpunk through to darkwave, electro industrial, EBM (whether old school artists who you might see at Familientreffen each year or the current crop of artists who sit firmly in the techno scene and are a long way away from goth), earnest Germans doing depeche mode derived synthpop, rhythmic noise and the artists who hit that middle ground between EBM/rhythmic noise and industrial techno.

But tbh, I'm an Old so probably out of touch anyway, and I guess what gets considered part of this broad genre church kinda differs a bit depending where you are as well, so whoever sets up a thread can do what they like and I'll keep on posting v occasional links to stuff :v:

CherryCola
Apr 15, 2002

'ahtaj alshifa

Danger - Octopus! posted:

Agreeing re the ID:YD categorisation above.

I guess I feel that a new thread should be for the broad ground of artists that goth/industrial fests and clubs would play as well as less dancefloor oriented stuff.. whether it's trad goth and postpunk through to darkwave, electro industrial, EBM (whether old school artists who you might see at Familientreffen each year or the current crop of artists who sit firmly in the techno scene and are a long way away from goth), earnest Germans doing depeche mode derived synthpop, rhythmic noise and the artists who hit that middle ground between EBM/rhythmic noise and industrial techno.

But tbh, I'm an Old so probably out of touch anyway, and I guess what gets considered part of this broad genre church kinda differs a bit depending where you are as well, so whoever sets up a thread can do what they like and I'll keep on posting v occasional links to stuff :v:

As a Proud Tampa Goth, I think Communion After Dark and Obscura Undead are two organizations that cover generally the genres that might fit under the dark music umbrella, as a reference point. Though I would probably include more stuff like Blanck Mass as well.

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost

CherryCola posted:

As a Proud Tampa Goth, I think Communion After Dark and Obscura Undead are two organizations that cover generally the genres that might fit under the dark music umbrella, as a reference point. Though I would probably include more stuff like Blanck Mass as well.

Blanck Mass are ace.

I guess a broad "these sorts of genres plus whatever other weirdness people who like these genres are into" is almost best, because then people (like me!) will have less reason to be all gatekeeping about whether noise artists are a good "fit" for the thread or w/e.

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost
Double post, but if anyone was going to E-Tropolis, it's just been postponed til June.

ANAmal.net
Mar 2, 2002


100% digital native web developer

Godmachine posted:

I'm in favor of making a new thread. I starting this thread 9 years ago when I was far more active on SA than I am now. I think the music has evolved considerably since then and the original post should reflect those changes. I'd volunteer but, sadly, my music taste falls more into "cold wave" stuff like Linea Aspera and Minuit Machine nowadays; I don't keep up with Industrial like I used to. Though I'm seeing Skold/3TEETH/Carnifex this weekend.

I'm starting to feel old, goons.

I have no comment on any of this except to say that 3TEETH put on an incredible live show and they rule.

SacrificialGoat
Oct 8, 2003

Catjaw is a hero of the people

ANAmal.net posted:

I have no comment on any of this except to say that 3TEETH put on an incredible live show and they rule.

I saw them with HO99O9 as the opener, which I felt was a weird choice. All the dudes who were in it for HO99O9 left the instant their set ended.

Whispering Machines
Dec 27, 2005

Monsters? They look like monsters to you?
I think a new thread would be a great idea- something that covers goth, industrial, "dark" music. Maybe whoever makes it can link to some Spotify playlists or something so folks know what we'll be talking about?

CherryCola
Apr 15, 2002

'ahtaj alshifa

Whispering Machines posted:

I think a new thread would be a great idea- something that covers goth, industrial, "dark" music. Maybe whoever makes it can link to some Spotify playlists or something so folks know what we'll be talking about?

Whispering Machines posted:

I think a new thread would be a great idea- something that covers goth, industrial, "dark" music. Maybe whoever makes it can link to some Spotify playlists or something so folks know what we'll be talking about?

Here are some of my favorite playlists and accounts. Also I added one of mine. :D


https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2pDONX3fJXQ37AxjhVO2ZH?si=oiUbfJKVRXyIzOMy5vJQGg


https://open.spotify.com/show/6LkcOPn92bTn698rMrJCcA?si=T53kn8w-S8yePd3HQkVnVQ


https://open.spotify.com/user/l3655tlem6dfvyjf7aos956c3?si=Oui9dTGgRbOmTqmpcK85cg


https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7HsMaOnzNwbpIuhPgYxDGz?si=LBJTgYHhQRSuVw3NvONYmQ


https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4eVc1ETeNyWQ8QVZDqcwM9?si=ngVeu0idTBKnEQWw8EcZwQ

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!
we're already in a genre that covers everything from Throbbing Gristle to alternative buttrock with a drum machine, so

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Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



I'm a massive Skinny Puppy fan but never got into Key's non-SP stuff. Is it all worth listening to? Anything stand out that I should start with?

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