Final Fantasy VII Remake - the whole plot would fall apart if cloud was ugly

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Fantastic Foreskin: Jan 6, 2013; A golden helix streaked skyward from the Helvault. A thunderous explosion shattered the silver monolith and Avacyn emerged, free from her prison at last.

I'm sure there is a market for jacked waifus but probably not a huge one. I'm sad that we don't get the nerd rage over solid muscle tifa though.

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HD DAD: Jan 13, 2010; Generic white guy.; Toilet Rascal

Cait Sith but completely loving shredded

# ? Mar 17, 2020 15:54

Luxury Tent Carpet: Feb 13, 2005; I hunted the Orphan of Kos and all I got was this stupid t-shirt

HD DAD posted:

Cait Sith but completely loving shredded

you stay the hell out of my dreams

# ? Mar 17, 2020 15:58

bobjr: Oct 16, 2012; Roose is loose.
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Tifa should get continually more buffed as the games go on

# ? Mar 17, 2020 16:07

Psycho Knight: Jan 19, 2017; "Being a fangame and not bound to a rating, Pokemon Reborn is able to expand more on topics such as death and the extreme dangers Pokemon could pose. These topics...are treated with the respect such a subject deserves."

Let's throw a Medicham into a volcano and make it give the T2 thumbs up!

bobjr posted:

Tifa should get continually more buffed as the games go on

I'd like to see RPG's do this. Just have your characters getting more and more ripped as they level up from all of their constant adventures and life or death battles. Hit Level 100 and there's just a cutscene of them beating the poo poo out of the last boss by punching them to death with their biceps as they constantly flex.

While I agree that looking a bit more muscular would be nice, I am also totally okay with her look. I'm just sad that it'll likely be years from now before we start seeing her in the rest of game. Midgar is nice, but a lot of the Tifa moments I like the most happen after Midgar.

# ? Mar 17, 2020 16:15

Elephant Ambush: Nov 13, 2012; ...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?; Nap Ghost

I remember the cringey reactions to Meryl having a buff soldier body in Metal Gear Solid 4.

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Psycho Knight: Jan 19, 2017; "Being a fangame and not bound to a rating, Pokemon Reborn is able to expand more on topics such as death and the extreme dangers Pokemon could pose. These topics...are treated with the respect such a subject deserves."

Let's throw a Medicham into a volcano and make it give the T2 thumbs up!

Elephant Ambush posted:

I remember the cringey reactions to Meryl having a buff soldier body in Metal Gear Solid 4.

Was there really? I don't remember that.

Then again, I don't remember much in terms of internet reactions to MGS4 (other than the "LOL, it's 90% cutscenes!"). I guess that shouldn't really surprise me too much, though.

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Mulva: Sep 13, 2011; It's about time for my once per decade ban for being a consistently terrible poster.

The real atrocity was her getting married to the shitter. Nobody should have to settle with the comic relief.

# ? Mar 17, 2020 16:31

NikkolasKing: Apr 3, 2010

I was pretty active in the MGS fandom leading up to MGS4. I remember this because I had so much hope and faith it would be the perfect climax to my beloved series.

Then it came out and.... I don't know about people freaking out at Meryl's buffness. I don't doubt it happened but I never saw it. I mainly remember people praising MGS4's genius and dismissing its flaws as all MGS2's fault. "It had to make up for the mess MGS2 caused."

How times have changed. Good changes.

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Zushio: May 8, 2008

I still know people subscribing to the whole "All of MGS2 was a VR Simulation" theory.

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Blueberry Pancakes: Aug 18, 2012; Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!

Mulva posted:

The real atrocity was her getting married to the shitter. Nobody should have to settle with the comic relief.

Agreed.

Jack B Nimble posted:

I would have expected a little more muscle definition in the arms for a character like Tifa, but I'll get my perfect boy Zell remade some day.

Breasts are basically stand-in muscles for fictional women.

# ? Mar 17, 2020 17:27

DMW45: Oct 29, 2011; Come into my parlor~
Said the spider to the fly~

Say, I know the game's episodic, but have they said anything about how many episodes they're planning to make out of this?

# ? Mar 17, 2020 17:33

WaltherFeng: May 15, 2013; 50 thousand people used to live here. Now, it's the Mushroom Kingdom.

DMW45 posted:

Say, I know the game's episodic, but have they said anything about how many episodes they're planning to make out of this?

They dont know. Also episodic is a bit misleading since it's multiple fully priced games.

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DMW45: Oct 29, 2011; Come into my parlor~
Said the spider to the fly~

Knowing game fanbases and game companies

I don't know if they'll finish it in that case.

# ? Mar 17, 2020 17:39

Zedsdeadbaby: Jun 14, 2008; You have been called out, in the ways of old.

Zushio posted:

I still know people subscribing to the whole "All of MGS2 was a VR Simulation" theory.

It wasn't far off, the entire Raiden mission was a fake from start to finish. The vr theory is a misunderstanding or misinterpretation more than anything else

MGS2 was panned for about a decade after it came out, it's aged like wine and I think it's a masterpiece now

# ? Mar 17, 2020 17:48

MonsieurChoc: Oct 12, 2013; Every species can smell its own extinction.

I really like buff girls (ironic since I'm a fat nerd) and wish Tifa was buffer.

Not enough strong girls in vidya.

# ? Mar 17, 2020 17:56

DMW45: Oct 29, 2011; Come into my parlor~
Said the spider to the fly~

Well, whether or not they can get around to making them all, I do intend to pick them up--I for one can't wait to play Grand Theft Auto: Midgar City Stories.

:v:

When I can. On PC.

:smith:

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Agents are GO!: Dec 29, 2004

Zedsdeadbaby posted:

It wasn't far off, the entire Raiden mission was a fake from start to finish. The vr theory is a misunderstanding or misinterpretation more than anything else

MGS2 was panned for about a decade after it came out, it's aged like wine and I think it's a masterpiece now

I loved MGS2 from the start, even more than 3. I'd love to see it remade in the MGS5 engine, hell I'd pay good money right now for a PC MGS collection. It'll never happen though.

# ? Mar 17, 2020 18:00

Elephant Ambush: Nov 13, 2012; ...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?; Nap Ghost

DMW45 posted:

Knowing game fanbases and game companies

I don't know if they'll finish it in that case.

I don't know why people keep saying this. This series is like printing money. The sales from this game will fully fund development of the rest and they already have a team that can do them all.

The only thing potentially stopping them is this whole global pandemic thing.

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Doctor_Fruitbat: Jun 2, 2013

If they can make three FFXIIIs then they can make three or four FFVIIs.

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NikkolasKing: Apr 3, 2010

MonsieurChoc posted:

I really like buff girls (ironic since I'm a fat nerd) and wish Tifa was buffer.

Not enough strong girls in vidya.

Chun-Li and her thighs have been around forever and are super popular. Creators gotta get with the times, thick and thicc are in right now.

Also Googling Chun Li Thighs gets me this article about how her thighs are "unrealistic."
https://sgcafe.com/2016/04/model-shows-chun-lis-thighs-street-fighter-v-not-unrealistic/

As somebody who has followed female bodybuilding, what a bunch of clueless dorks.

# ? Mar 17, 2020 18:20

DMW45: Oct 29, 2011; Come into my parlor~
Said the spider to the fly~

Elephant Ambush posted:

I don't know why people keep saying this. This series is like printing money. The sales from this game will fully fund development of the rest and they already have a team that can do them all.

The only thing potentially stopping them is this whole global pandemic thing.

It's making money *right now*

General wisdom is, though, that each sequel will make less and less money.

I mean, the one up there said 3 or 4, but they don't even know how many games it'll take, etc.

This one, if it covers only the midgar section, would only cover somewhere between a quarter and a third of the first disc, or about 1/9th of the game.

# ? Mar 17, 2020 19:01

HD DAD: Jan 13, 2010; Generic white guy.; Toilet Rascal

DMW45 posted:

It's making money *right now*

General wisdom is, though, that each sequel will make less and less money.

I mean, the one up there said 3 or 4, but they don't even know how many games it'll take, etc.

This one, if it covers only the midgar section, would only cover somewhere between a quarter and a third of the first disc, or about 1/9th of the game.

The third disc is just the final dungeon, and the second disc is considerably shorter than the first. Midgar is probably about 20% of the OG game. I seem to remember somewhere that, when the script is broken down, Midgar accounts for something like a full third of the dialogue.

# ? Mar 17, 2020 19:04

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

Also i think its unlikely that the other areas are going to get as fleshed out as midgar

# ? Mar 17, 2020 19:12

Fantastic Foreskin: Jan 6, 2013; A golden helix streaked skyward from the Helvault. A thunderous explosion shattered the silver monolith and Avacyn emerged, free from her prison at last.

Midgar is typically 5 hours, no? And the game is, what, 25-30, maybe more if you 100% it?

The disks are just split by FMVs, all of the game data is on each of them. If you have a scratched disk you can start it and swap to a different disk an it plays fine, except the FMVs get skipped. And, on my disks at least, it locks up at the point of no return

# ? Mar 17, 2020 19:14

HD DAD: Jan 13, 2010; Generic white guy.; Toilet Rascal

I could really see them re-pacing the disc two stuff, especially the huge materia quests.

# ? Mar 17, 2020 19:17

GoGoGadget: Apr 29, 2006

Why do people still think they aren't going to be expanding literally every part of this game?

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Nail Rat: Dec 29, 2000; You maniacs! You blew it up! God damn you! God damn you all to hell!!

An entire tower defense game right in the middle of the 10 game remake series

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esperterra: Mar 24, 2010; SHINee's back

Each minigame will be a full episode.

# ? Mar 17, 2020 19:34

Luxury Tent Carpet: Feb 13, 2005; I hunted the Orphan of Kos and all I got was this stupid t-shirt

Fort Condor is a reskin of AOE2

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Super No Vacancy: Jul 26, 2012

they should put blitzball in the game

# ? Mar 17, 2020 19:39

HD DAD: Jan 13, 2010; Generic white guy.; Toilet Rascal

Cloud Strife�s Pro Snowboarder, coming to PS5 January 2026.

# ? Mar 17, 2020 19:40

Dell_Zincht: Nov 5, 2003

Wutai won't be in the game, it'll be a DLC extra

# ? Mar 17, 2020 19:47

DMW45: Oct 29, 2011; Come into my parlor~
Said the spider to the fly~

Dell_Zincht posted:

Wutai won't be in the game, it'll be a DLC extra

Watch Wutai be it's own game.

# ? Mar 17, 2020 20:03

precision: May 7, 2006; by VideoGames

ItBreathes posted:

Midgar is typically 5 hours, no? And the game is, what, 25-30, maybe more if you 100% it?

Yeah, and a decent chunk of those 25 hours between Midgar and Weapon aren't really plot critical stuff so it's easier to rework

# ? Mar 17, 2020 20:10

Dell_Zincht: Nov 5, 2003

precision posted:

Yeah, and a decent chunk of those 25 hours between Midgar and Weapon aren't really plot critical stuff so it's easier to rework

Uh....wha?

# ? Mar 17, 2020 20:46

Fantastic Foreskin: Jan 6, 2013; A golden helix streaked skyward from the Helvault. A thunderous explosion shattered the silver monolith and Avacyn emerged, free from her prison at last.

Dell_Zincht posted:

Uh....wha?

There is a lot of "Cloud and Co. trapse around the world" that can be abridged. Just as long as they keep Costa Del Sol, no matter how extraneous it is.

# ? Mar 17, 2020 20:56

MonsieurChoc: Oct 12, 2013; Every species can smell its own extinction.

I don't see how you can skip Junon, Corel, Gongaga (which is optional but does give info on some characters), Cosmo Canyon, Nibelheim and Rocket Town. They all hold pieces of the puzzle.

The only thing I can think of that's skippable is Fort Condor.

# ? Mar 17, 2020 21:46

Zedsdeadbaby: Jun 14, 2008; You have been called out, in the ways of old.

I think Fort Condor served to show you how bad Shinra was outside of Midgar, it's the first time you confront them after leaving the city and you're trying to stop them from harming a rare condor because it's just getting in the way of their reactor operations. It continues the whole eco-warrior theme of the game.

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Fantastic Foreskin: Jan 6, 2013; A golden helix streaked skyward from the Helvault. A thunderous explosion shattered the silver monolith and Avacyn emerged, free from her prison at last.

MonsieurChoc posted:

I don't see how you can skip Junon, Corel, Gongaga (which is optional but does give info on some characters), Cosmo Canyon, Nibelheim and Rocket Town. They all hold pieces of the puzzle.

The only thing I can think of that's skippable is Fort Condor.

You can skip the walking there and bunches of random encounters that take the majority of the raw hours though.

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