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Bloodplay it again posted:Open beta update is live. 1.76GB download if you already had the closed beta installed. 68.76GB download if you did not download the closed beta. Thank you, good sir! I was just coming here to see if there was any updates on downloading the open beta.
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The server doesn't appear to be up yet. Tried getting into ship 2 and wasn't able to connect. [edit] never mind, it is still tomorrow https://twitter.com/play_pso2/status/1239597826818138115
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Sorry for the necropost butorange juche posted:X held up a bit better than the S performance wise, but the OG Xbox One really apparently had trouble with the game, which hopefully they've cleaned up some, so S should have decent performance. I sort of want to get a S on the cheap for this and despite having a 4K tv I sort of think that at best 4K, while nice looking, is not the huge leap as going from SD to HD, and snake oil at worst. On the other hand my only frame of reference is a PS Pro where very few games can do 4K uncompromised (God of War, Horizon...that is about it), so I may not have the best frame of reference. Unlucky7 fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Mar 16, 2020 |
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Mar 16, 2020 21:58
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Unlucky7 posted:Sorry for the necropost but Xbox one X is about 50% more powerful than a PS4 Pro. It actually hits 4k60 in games, I've never seen anything where it has downscaled like the PS4 Pro to save framerates. Though, honestly, there's nothing wrong with getting an Xbox One S, but my understanding is the One X is basically a wholly different GPU and CPU that just so happen to run the Xbox One version of Windows 10, and happens to be called an Xbox One. orange juche fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Mar 16, 2020 |
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Mar 16, 2020 22:11
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2 Questions, 1.) 2.) Will this have cross saves, so if I play on the beta now, I can continue playing my character when the steam release hits?
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Boba Pearl posted:2 Questions, 1.) There’s no saves, it’s all server-side. The servers will be the same between platforms, but we don’t know for sure that it will be available on Steam in addition to the Windows Store.
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Mar 17, 2020 12:18
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Where are we supposed to be able to buy the Sonic/Ragol bundles?
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Annath posted:Where are we supposed to be able to buy the Sonic/Ragol bundles? Xbox store later today.
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Mar 17, 2020 19:26
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I said come in! posted:5 1/2 hours to go It got pushed back one whole hour to 6 Pacific, 9 Eastern.
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If anyone needs an invite to Nol Vacancy NA, I will not be online until after 10PM EST. Ask Raujinn in the discord for an invite, I will be on after that time to be able to invite. If anyone wants to volunteer to be able to do invites/spacework please let me know.
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And I can't play because I have to be up at 5am est for COVID19 crisis management 
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Sat here sad I don't own an Xbone for the first time ever. I'm sure PC will come soon enough, just gotta be patient....
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Mar 17, 2020 20:55
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Mission Pass info is up.quote:Introducing Mission Passes! Phantasy Star Online 2 players in North America will get the chance to obtain rewards by playing the game and completing missions. Read more to learn about this amazing new feature! Confirms you can use Star Gems to buy the Mission Pass, thankfully. Looks like you can skip the grind altogether with SG as well, but I'd imagine that is a bad way to allocate them. You get it with Premium, too, it looks like. I was afraid it was gonna be a separate subscription of some sort. Phew Bloodplay it again fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Mar 17, 2020 |
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lol no thank you. Completely out of place for a game like this. Just offer a normal cosmetic only cash shop.
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I said come in! posted:lol no thank you. Completely out of place for a game like this. Just offer a normal cosmetic only cash shop. That's in addition, in order to filter out the literal thousands of items that would need to be distributed. There's thousands and thousands of cosmetics that are in the 8 year backlog that Sega needs to find a way to filter out.
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I said come in! posted:lol no thank you. Completely out of place for a game like this. Just offer a normal cosmetic only cash shop. Compared to the JP method of gambling on scratch tickets, the mission passes doling out older AC scratch content doesn't seem too bad to me. My biggest worry was that it'd be separate from premium. Even if you don't want to spend a dime on the game, the free mission pass will still kick cosmetics your way, more than you'd be getting with free FUN scratches, anyway. It seems to be more of an incentive to get premium than anything. Unless they jack the price of premium up, it's only more stuff for the same (or no) price. Open beta rewards announced. Hit up the visiphone to snatch em up after login. No end date announced. Flowen’s Sword (x1) (Sword Camo) F Shooter / Licht (x1) (Rifle Camo) Squeaky Hammer / Nacht (x1) (Rod Camo) Astral Riser/Nacht (x1) (Gunblade Camo) Fresh Aura (x1) (Back Unit) EXP Earned +50% (x10) Rare Item Drop Rate +50% (x10) Meseta Earned +50% (x10) Half Scape Doll (x5)
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Bloodplay it again posted:Compared to the JP method of gambling on scratch tickets, the mission passes doling out older AC scratch content doesn't seem too bad to me. My biggest worry was that it'd be separate from premium. Even if you don't want to spend a dime on the game, the free mission pass will still kick cosmetics your way, more than you'd be getting with free FUN scratches, anyway. It seems to be more of an incentive to get premium than anything. Unless they jack the price of premium up, it's only more stuff for the same (or no) price. SQUEAKY HAMMER YESSSSSS why isnt it a wand though?
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It's real cool of them to, based on that screenshot, lock cast parts away behind their lovely battlepass. Guess I'll be making a new character at some point in the future. Nice of them to hand out that sword camo though, I love flowen's sword.orange juche posted:SQUEAKY HAMMER YESSSSSS why isnt it a wand though? A lot of their choices in this regard tend to be based on animation move sets. Like how the Red Saber was a partisan instead of a sword.
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it sounds like the Fresh Finds shop is a direct purchase option for older cosmetics; but it sounds like the selection will be limited, and rotated daily.Bloodplay it again posted:Compared to the JP method of gambling on scratch tickets, the mission passes doling out older AC scratch content doesn't seem too bad to me.  don't forget to take a step back and look at everything from the outside once in a while; otherwise you'll just get complacent. that all said and done, yeah mission pass seems fine; as long as they can keep doing stuff like arks leagues to pump out SG a little more productively than having to go do battle arena or something. and anybody who just always has premium running will just always have a gold mission pass running too anyway. Nuebot posted:It's real cool of them to, based on that screenshot, lock cast parts away behind their lovely battlepass. Guess I'll be making a new character at some point in the future. Nice of them to hand out that sword camo though, I love flowen's sword. oh yeah like those parts even in the screenshot they listed there are like, locked behind years of unrevived gatcha rotation so; that's where a bunch of us are coming from on this subject. "wow! these things are at least some form of obtainable, as opposed to being basically almost unobtainable!" like the biggest issue has been the Recycle Shop being there as a means for people to shred unwanted cosmetics to turn into other stuff like outfit recolor passes; so even low-demand cosmetics still go extinct eventually on the JP server NextTime000 fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Mar 18, 2020 |
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NextTime000 posted:oh yeah like those parts even in the screenshot they listed there are like, locked behind years of unrevived gatcha rotation so; that's where a bunch of us are coming from on this subject. "wow! these things are at least some form of obtainable, as opposed to being basically almost unobtainable!" Like, yeah I get it'll be useful for that. At some point, after we've had more than one AC scratch. But right now it's not serving that point, because there are no old cosmetics to re-run through it for NA players. It'd be cool if that's how they did it, to recycle old content. But I've never seen a battle pass that actually contributed to a game in any meaningful way, and I kind of don't have faith in them to do that here, either. It feels like a very excessive appendage to shove in especially when you look at just how many rewards the gold track has versus the free track. JP's model certainly wasn't flawless, and it did render some cosmetics effectively dead (one of my favorite items was highly unpopular and I basically had one of the last few on my ship and it was worth obscene amounts) but I also don't really like the idea of just walling off cosmetics behind another unnecessary paywall. The fact that they've put so much emphasis on things like bundles and this mission pass, all while staying absolutely silent about the PC version as well just really doesn't sit well with me, too.
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http://www.bumped.org/psublog/pso2-jp-butler-maid-tea-time-ac-scratch/ those cast parts and outfits pictured in that mission pass image were from 2013; that's pretty old imo but the real question here is what exactly are they going to be offering in the main AC scratch while this mission pass system is running at the same time like mission pass and fresh finds are looking like their answer to how outfits from the last 7+ years are going to be made available; possibly even just a focus on pre-epsiode 4 outfits, before they implemented the Layer Wear system. AC Scratch is still in this version of the game too, on top of mission pass NextTime000 fucked around with this message at 00:27 on Mar 18, 2020 |
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I'm having flashbacks of trying to buy PSO music for my room and seeing prices higher than all the money I had ever earned on my way up to getting two classes to 75 and one to 90. Didn't you need to buy art books to get Ragol memory or something like that? If they took away the mission pass, what advantages are there compared to having it? Free and paid players are both getting more cosmetics without having to buy more AC for scratch tickets. There's the possibility that I have a fundamental misunderstanding of the way it all works on JP because most of the time I played required webmoney, well before PSO2es. It seemed to me like people gambled on AC scratch tickets, sat on the prizes, then just flipped them down the road to buy other, haven't-been-available-for-years cosmetics, which is why I bothered mentioning sitting on Sonic cosmetics earlier. Obviously something like buying pso money to exchange for exactly the cosmetic you want would be a better system, but this still seems like a better setup than JP and definitely better than SEA.
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Bloodplay it again posted:I'm having flashbacks of trying to buy PSO music for my room and seeing prices higher than all the money I had ever earned on my way up to getting two classes to 75 and one to 90. Didn't you need to buy art books to get Ragol memory or something like that? If they took away the mission pass, what advantages are there compared to having it? Free and paid players are both getting more cosmetics without having to buy more AC for scratch tickets. There's the possibility that I have a fundamental misunderstanding of the way it all works on JP because most of the time I played required webmoney, well before PSO2es. It seemed to me like people gambled on AC scratch tickets, sat on the prizes, then just flipped them down the road to buy other, haven't-been-available-for-years cosmetics, which is why I bothered mentioning sitting on Sonic cosmetics earlier. The thing is, is that people are comparing the launch of this new game, to entering PSO2JP years in where cosmetics were dead and outdated and thus were immensely expensive. Right now, NA is just now launching. It doesn't have that history yet, so the parts in that track aren't old and outdated yet. They aren't limited supply; until we know what's in the AC scratch, they're the only supply. If this mission pass was being applied to JP, then yeah that'd be cool. People would be getting access to old and outdated items they might want. But NA players aren't getting old items. They're getting new items. Now there's just a bunch of cosmetics locked behind premium/mission pass.
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Nuebot posted:The thing is, is that people are comparing the launch of this new game, to entering PSO2JP years in where cosmetics were dead and outdated and thus were immensely expensive. Right now, NA is just now launching. It doesn't have that history yet, so the parts in that track aren't old and outdated yet. They aren't limited supply; until we know what's in the AC scratch, they're the only supply. If this mission pass was being applied to JP, then yeah that'd be cool. People would be getting access to old and outdated items they might want. But NA players aren't getting old items. They're getting new items. Now there's just a bunch of cosmetics locked behind premium/mission pass. Are the battlepass rewards guaranteed for a given tier, like in Fortnite or whatever? Because even paid, that's much better than a "free" scratchoff ticket with a random chance at a given pool of items. Full disclosure I might be misunderstanding how it works.
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Nuebot posted:The thing is, is that people are comparing the launch of this new game, to entering PSO2JP years in where cosmetics were dead and outdated and thus were immensely expensive. Right now, NA is just now launching. It doesn't have that history yet, so the parts in that track aren't old and outdated yet. They aren't limited supply; until we know what's in the AC scratch, they're the only supply. If this mission pass was being applied to JP, then yeah that'd be cool. People would be getting access to old and outdated items they might want. But NA players aren't getting old items. They're getting new items. Now there's just a bunch of cosmetics locked behind premium/mission pass. Ok, I think I see what you mean now. You want to make sure the items in the mission pass are also available at some point via AC scratch, right? Because they might not be available via AC scratch, they might not be available for purchase from other players. I guess some of it depends on whether mission pass items can be listed on the store or not, in that regard.
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Annath posted:Are the battlepass rewards guaranteed for a given tier, like in Fortnite or whatever? Because even paid, that's much better than a "free" scratchoff ticket with a random chance at a given pool of items. You're not wrong, but it only really helps the people who pay for it. The benefit of the AC system (flawed as it is) is that people tend to sell their extras. They didn't always horde them forever. So people who didn't, or couldn't, afford AC scratch at the time could still get the item. Meaning eventually most people who wanted the item, would still get it. With the battle pass system, it looks like most people will only be getting one copy of the thing. Which means people are less likely to sell unless it's an item they absolutely do not want. This also has the side effect of making tickt-based items a lot harder to keep track of since if you use a ticket for an accessory two times, you unlock it on all characters permanently. With the AC system you could get, or buy, two of whatever. With this system, you're going to have to hope someone is selling theirs. And if you do buy it, you're possibly depriving someone who couldn't afford the battlepass of one. Bloodplay it again posted:Ok, I think I see what you mean now. You want to make sure the items in the mission pass are also available at some point via AC scratch, right? Because they might not be available via AC scratch, they might not be available for purchase from other players. I guess some of it depends on whether mission pass items can be listed on the store or not, in that regard. Basically, yeah. I love that they have a direct purchase shop now, apparently. And that it's supposedly rotating every day? That's amazing, because that will help a lot in terms of deterring items from vanishing forever. And if someone really, really wants an item they can just buy it instead of having to rely on the market or AC.
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I dabbled in the translation patch but never really stuck with it. Is the beginner guide in the OP good enough to get started? Also should I be doing something specific with my mag now, or just wait until I find a class I enjoy?
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Annath posted:I'll have to check tomorrow for the SANIC bundle, I'm not seeing it right now. Found it by searching directly rather than looking at the related items list. Hopefully I'll be able to play tomorrow night.
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Nuebot posted:you don't need xbox gold to play the open beta
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Boba Pearl posted:It says you need it to play online on the store page. I do not have xbox live gold and I am playing just fine. I assume it's because it's still in "beta" that I'm getting away with this. Also the sonic and ragol bundles are up, you have to search for them manually though. And there's an event going on for joining an alliance, will we be having a goon group?
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So if you are stupid like me and been wanting an Xbone for cheap for this, well... https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1240090305082167296 EDIT2: Sold out. May as well leave it if they restock Unlucky7 fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Mar 18, 2020 |
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Also; Premium does not give you mission pass gold. EDIT: Also you can't even get all of the gold pass rewards. You can only pick one group out of each option. This is actually worse than I thought. Nuebot fucked around with this message at 04:00 on Mar 18, 2020 |
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i have no idea what i'm doing but i love this game there's so many menus and things to do and why can my humar not use resta game wtf
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Nuebot posted:Also; Premium does not give you mission pass gold. Apparently, once you complete the rewards for the mission pass, you can start over from the beginning and pick the rewards you passed on initially. So I hope you like grinding! Or paying SG!
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The Postman posted:I dabbled in the translation patch but never really stuck with it. Is the beginner guide in the OP good enough to get started? Also should I be doing something specific with my mag now, or just wait until I find a class I enjoy? Wait until you're sure what you want that particular character to play as. Undoing messed up mag work can be a pain as it requires a currency you won't get a lot of until later.
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Surprise Noodle posted:Apparently, once you complete the rewards for the mission pass, you can start over from the beginning and pick the rewards you passed on initially. Oh boy! The really frustrating thing is that the only thing that gives you exp towards your mission pass are the specific mission pass missions. Nothing else. It'd be neat if like, CO's, daily missions, and all sorts of stuff contributed progress. But instead you just get missions to do missions so you can fill your bar. They don't even give you anything besides stars for the mission pass.
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The website says Daily and Weekly missions should give a small amount of stars too. But yeah, seems like maybe the system is not the greatest. I'll see how I feel about once I can actually engage with it.
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