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ALFbrot
Apr 17, 2002

Rageaholic posted:

Studios can't just put their upcoming movies on VOD like The Invisible Man/The Hunt/Emma/Birds of Prey? Those are costing $20, so it seems like they would make more money from that than a ticket sold in theaters. Plus a shitton of people are stuck at home and looking for something to do, so it seems like there would be a huge market for this. But maybe I'm wrong?

Maybe movies without a theatrical release are disqualified from being nominated for an Oscar or something?

The $20 cost is offset by, say, a family of 5 watching it vs. buying 5 movie tickets.

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Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

Disney is also super risk adverse.

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

muscles like this! posted:

So far haven't heard anything from Cinemark, which is weird because aren't they fairly big?

Per the movie theater employee subreddit they are doing nothing but cutting staff’s hours unpaid due to slower demand.

It could be fake but it wouldn’t be shocking to me.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

disney of all companies can weather this storm, especially because whenever the market fully reinflates it's going to be their movies that everyone goes to. I can imagine Mulan's release sort of signalling the "all-clear" and getting a lot of people assuming they wait until people are actually safe, and they have so many release dates cordoned out that shifting everything back 6 months is gonna be easier than other places which will have to totally reorganize around the movies that are already scheduled.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

ALFbrot posted:

The $20 cost is offset by, say, a family of 5 watching it vs. buying 5 movie tickets.

I really don't think $20 will work too well. No one wants to spend $20 to rent a movie, what are one time rentals on streaming services these days? $5 for a new movie?

Smirking_Serpent
Aug 27, 2009

Rageaholic posted:

Studios can't just put their upcoming movies on VOD like The Invisible Man/The Hunt/Emma/Birds of Prey? Those are costing $20, so it seems like they would make more money from that than a ticket sold in theaters. Plus a shitton of people are stuck at home and looking for something to do, so it seems like there would be a huge market for this. But maybe I'm wrong?

Maybe movies without a theatrical release are disqualified from being nominated for an Oscar or something?

If Disney started doing Day 1 digital for their big releases, the theaters would revolt. Either they'd refuse to show Disney films, or they'd go bankrupt and it wouldn't matter. There's a big difference from releasing movies that already out early vs completely changing their business model for an upcoming tentpole.

While there would be a big market for Black Widow or Mulan on digital, it's less lucrative than we might think. If Black Widow releases in conventional theaters in August, it's The Movie with little competition. If they put it on Amazon/iTunes, it's competing with every Marvel movie on Disney+, every series on Netflix, etc. If you're a fan, sure you pay $20, but families looking for something to watch and worrying about expenses are just going to watch Endgame or Mandalorian or something. Disney only makes a few movies a year, and they don't make more because they know that too many releases can cannibalize each other.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT



Thanks, AMC :unsmith:

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Okay, Cinemark have officially announced they are closing starting tomorrow and their subscription service (Movie Club) is paused.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

https://twitter.com/virtuaIvirgo/status/1239825095918583808

:argh:

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
I’m furious about the Alamo poo poo. The guy who ran our weekly Cult/Horror program and ran all their special programming for nine loving years was just unceremoniously furloughed with no indication of whether he’d still have a job whenever this is over with. And the loving insurance poo poo is just the cherry on top. Absolute loving scum move by a company that could easily extend the health coverage at the very least.

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

I mean if their management's support of a serial sexual harasser wasn't enough to get people to stop going to Alamo, I doubt this will.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost


I mean, at least this way they'll be able to get unemployment unlike the companies that are telling the unemployment office no one was fired they were just put on zero hour contracts.

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"

GrandpaPants posted:

I mean if their management's support of a serial sexual harasser wasn't enough to get people to stop going to Alamo, I doubt this will.

Trump or Weinstein, I lose track of who is backing which sexual harasser anymore.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

jisforjosh posted:

Trump or Weinstein, I lose track of who is backing which sexual harasser anymore.

Tim League tried to cover up the Harry Knowles sexual assault allegations for years and then still hired Devin Faraci after the Knowles poo poo blew up.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

"It's okay. There are other Terminators! Just give us this one!"
Hell Gem

jisforjosh posted:

Trump or Weinstein, I lose track of who is backing which sexual harasser anymore.

Harry Knowles, and on top of that there were emails directed at the women pressuring them into not reporting it.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Lionsgate has also started to delay movies with Antebellum and Spiral: From the book of Saw getting removed from the release calendar.

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

muscles like this! posted:

Lionsgate has also started to delay movies with Antebellum and Spiral: From the book of Saw getting removed from the release calendar.

Oh gently caress, Antebellum was actually something I was interested in. Spiral didn't look half-bad either.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

GrandpaPants posted:

I mean if their management's support of a serial sexual harasser wasn't enough to get people to stop going to Alamo, I doubt this will.

the problem is there's a lot of places where the only theater you can see non-wide-release stuff at is Alamo. Houston, for example, has a grand total of one non-Alamo indie theater and it's a pure arthouse, with their only "fun" event being midnight Rocky Horror/The Room once a month (RHPS on Friday and The Room on Saturday, iirc). meanwhile, things I've seen at Alamo include Belladonna of Sadness, the Tammy and the T-Rex gore cut, and VFW.

my choices are basically either "support the bad theater chain," "stop going to theaters" or "start my own drat theater."

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

🔊😴
Don't forget that Drafthouse also discovered possibly the only surviving print of Miami Connection so it's literally impossible to watch that movie without supporting them. unless you do :filez:

Safety Factor
Oct 31, 2009




Grimey Drawer

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

the problem is there's a lot of places where the only theater you can see non-wide-release stuff at is Alamo. Houston, for example, has a grand total of one non-Alamo indie theater and it's a pure arthouse, with their only "fun" event being midnight Rocky Horror/The Room once a month (RHPS on Friday and The Room on Saturday, iirc). meanwhile, things I've seen at Alamo include Belladonna of Sadness, the Tammy and the T-Rex gore cut, and VFW.

my choices are basically either "support the bad theater chain," "stop going to theaters" or "start my own drat theater."
I miss the old Sundance downtown. It got bought out by AMC and I guess it's just a normal theater now.

I used to go to the Alamo out at La Centerra pretty regularly for their film club events and any cool one-offs that popped up. They really are the only option for that sort of thing in the area. River Oaks is decent, I saw Parasite there back in January, but it really doesn't do the same kind of weird poo poo. It's nice for the classic theater experience though. There's also a few Star Cinemas scattered around the city, but they only do wide releases. Kind of like a crummy Alamo Lite.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

the problem is there's a lot of places where the only theater you can see non-wide-release stuff at is Alamo. Houston, for example, has a grand total of one non-Alamo indie theater and it's a pure arthouse, with their only "fun" event being midnight Rocky Horror/The Room once a month (RHPS on Friday and The Room on Saturday, iirc). meanwhile, things I've seen at Alamo include Belladonna of Sadness, the Tammy and the T-Rex gore cut, and VFW.

my choices are basically either "support the bad theater chain," "stop going to theaters" or "start my own drat theater."

I’m really hoping that Robert and the other folks who ran the special programming end up at some other art house theater in the general area after all this is over. Moving Graveyard Shift to River Oaks would be great.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

I’ve met Roddy Piper and got to sorta hang out with Bruce Campbell (making a fool of myself lol) on birthday at the Alamo so no matter what I can’t hate it entirely.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Big Mean Jerk posted:

I’m really hoping that Robert and the other folks who ran the special programming end up at some other art house theater in the general area after all this is over. Moving Graveyard Shift to River Oaks would be great.

for what it's worth, I've had a wild hair up my rear end to start an indie theater for quite a while, and this news is only making my boner for that idea harder. i'm not sure how exactly to do that, but it's gone from "random wild hair up my rear end" to "thing i'm seriously considering and looking into."

if i do that, anyone involved with that end of any of the Houston Alamos has a job waiting for them if they ask. no interview required, because i've seen their work and it owns and i'd just need them to help do the exact same thing but for me instead of Tim League.

Safety Factor
Oct 31, 2009




Grimey Drawer

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

for what it's worth, I've had a wild hair up my rear end to start an indie theater for quite a while, and this news is only making my boner for that idea harder. i'm not sure how exactly to do that, but it's gone from "random wild hair up my rear end" to "thing i'm seriously considering and looking into."

if i do that, anyone involved with that end of any of the Houston Alamos has a job waiting for them if they ask. no interview required, because i've seen their work and it owns and i'd just need them to help do the exact same thing but for me instead of Tim League.
Where would you consider putting it? I realize that this is all hypothetical, but I'm curious. Heights/Mid-town or EaDo has the crowd for it, but it'd be way too expensive to lease a big enough building there. Especially starting out. The La Centerra Alamo covers the Western suburbs and even Katy. Sugar Land has been supposedly getting an Alamo for years now and it looks like that might finally happen. I think Cypress used to have one, but it closed and was replaced by a Star Cinema. Not many people would want to go out to Pearland or League City, but the land would be much cheaper.

It's complicated. :v:

Tars Tarkas
Apr 13, 2003

Rock the Mok



A nasty woman, I think you should try is, Jess.


https://twitter.com/jackwaz/status/1240135051288948742

The MSJ
May 17, 2010

#releasethebuttholecut

Niric
Jul 23, 2008

The MSJ posted:

#releasethebuttholecut

https://twitter.com/rianjohnson/status/1240176499254128640

Antifa Poltergeist
Jun 3, 2004

"We're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you"



It turns out 2020 is the year we don't remake (or release) anything.

Congrats on sonic the hedgehog on winning all the oscars.

Black Lighter
Sep 6, 2010

Just keep looking at what we're doing, keep watering and ask yourselves first and know 'Are you watering? And are you fertilizing every day?' So when it's time to pop, it'll pop.

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

for what it's worth, I've had a wild hair up my rear end to start an indie theater for quite a while, and this news is only making my boner for that idea harder. i'm not sure how exactly to do that, but it's gone from "random wild hair up my rear end" to "thing i'm seriously considering and looking into."

if i do that, anyone involved with that end of any of the Houston Alamos has a job waiting for them if they ask. no interview required, because i've seen their work and it owns and i'd just need them to help do the exact same thing but for me instead of Tim League.

I don't know if it's this way in Houston, but in Philly and other East coast cities, there are tons of buildings that used to be one-screen movie theaters that were repurposed as low-end retail over the 80s and 90s - sometimes only halfway, with the theater space itself surviving as a stockroom or something similar. My guess is that the best way to start would be to find one of those and crowdfund the resources necessary to buy and rehab it.

Island Nation
Jun 20, 2006
Trust No One

Antifa Poltergeist posted:

It turns out 2020 is the year we don't remake (or release) anything.

Congrats on sonic the hedgehog on winning all the oscars.

Moss wins best actress, thanks LRH and Miscaviage in speech

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Today could be a great time to bring back drive-in theatres.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Antifa Poltergeist posted:

It turns out 2020 is the year we don't remake (or release) anything.

Congrats on sonic the hedgehog on winning all the oscars.

Also all the Hollywood stars are going to be hiding in bunker so there won't be anyone to host the award ceremony. Well, no human to host the ceremony.

Sonic is not only going to win all the Oscars, he's also going to host the Oscars.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Today could be a great time to bring back drive-in theatres.

Make the spaces ideal for hoverboards and Limebikes and the audio able to link up to Bluetooth and you can hook a whole new generation.

Thundersword238
Oct 15, 2012

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Also all the Hollywood stars are going to be hiding in bunker so there won't be anyone to host the award ceremony. Well, no human to host the ceremony.

Sonic is not only going to win all the Oscars, he's also going to host the Oscars.

Someone still needs to voice Sonic, so that's not going to work. Therefore, there is only one option left to us;

Hatsune Miku hosts the Oscars.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Ghost Leviathan posted:

Today could be a great time to bring back drive-in theatres.

I no joke have two within a 45 minute drive of me

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
The drive in experience kind of sucks, bluetooth audio would definitely help. I just googled and we've got 27 drive-ins in the commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Len posted:

I no joke have two within a 45 minute drive of me

The only drive-in in my county is a porno drive-in.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

The drive in experience kind of sucks, bluetooth audio would definitely help. I just googled and we've got 27 drive-ins in the commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

The one south of us has no speakers outside of your car speakers anymore but they redid their audio systems a few years back so now it's a clear broadcast that doesn't sound like it's underwater.

It's actually almost a pleasant experience now!

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

The drive in experience kind of sucks, bluetooth audio would definitely help. I just googled and we've got 27 drive-ins in the commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

Have you seen the documentary At The Drive-In? It’s about one specific PA drive-in, I forgot it’s name but it’s a pretty good little doc.

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The MSJ
May 17, 2010

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