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Renaissance Robot posted:Better than nothing! My last rental didn't vent anywhere, it looked like it had a solid shaft that must house an exit pipe, but when I took it off it was just empty and the fan was blasting wet greasy air up the wall and across the ceiling. I dunno man I'd rather have it venting nasty poo poo onto a visible wall/ceiling where I could know to clean it rather than secretly turning my wall cavity into a horrific disgusting fire hazard.
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Mine blasts the stuff right into the bottom of the cabinet above. I knew it didn't go to the outside, but there's a filter in there that's supposed to do something. I got suspicious when I took out a filter after a few months and it looked brand new. It just kind of bypasses the fitler and fills the rest of the microwave with grease. It's a rental, so I can't really be hosed to take it down and adjust the blower to do it "right".
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Mar 16, 2020 14:38
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I have an idiot hood that sucks air up through a lovely filter and then blasts it back out forward pretty much directly at head height. I assume that the filter is supposed to catch stuff but the whole thing is just bad and I don't use it.  Our stove growing up never had any hood at all, I figure we're fine.
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Ashcans posted:I have an idiot hood that sucks air up through a lovely filter and then blasts it back out forward pretty much directly at head height. I assume that the filter is supposed to catch stuff but the whole thing is just bad and I don't use it. That's the same kind I have. The stove is on an interior wall and there's a high ceiling with no attic (and a cabinet directly above it), so there's not really anywhere to vent it to. Sometimes we have to open the window when cooking because it gets really hazy in the house. There are a lot of things about my house that bother me, but the tiny, poorly laid-out kitchen is definitely the worst because I can't think of any way to fix it.
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Mar 16, 2020 15:33
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serious question: where are they supposed to vent normally? just into the attic? that seems unhygienic at best... that's how it was set up in my childhood home, and I remember that part of the attic being vaguely greasy
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Mar 16, 2020 15:52
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Empty Sandwich posted:serious question: where are they supposed to vent normally? just into the attic? that seems unhygienic at best... that's how it was set up in my childhood home, and I remember that part of the attic being vaguely greasy Outside.
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Mar 16, 2020 15:52
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Jaded Burnout posted:Outside. makes sense. I can't figure out how I'd do that in any of the houses I've lived in (this is a very boring crappy construction tale)
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Mar 16, 2020 16:09
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The stupid thing is our kitchen apparently had an external-venting hood at one point and most of it is still there (although clogged with a birds nest right now) but the PO replaced it with one of those stupid recirculating ones that blows it back at your head. I really need to get the external venting one working again, I'm not sure why they switched away from it.
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Mar 16, 2020 16:22
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Empty Sandwich posted:makes sense. I can't figure out how I'd do that in any of the houses I've lived in (this is a very boring crappy construction tale) With pipe. I mean....it's obviously something that typically has to be considered during construction or a major reno, but there's no real magic to how this works.
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Mar 16, 2020 16:53
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Empty Sandwich posted:makes sense. I can't figure out how I'd do that in any of the houses I've lived in (this is a very boring crappy construction tale) If you can vent to the attic, you can run a duct from there to the eaves or an external wall. That’s suitable for bathroom fans for sure, for a greasy kitchen extractor I’d want to go out of an external wall at ceiling height approx, either directly or via some ducting hidden inside cabinets/ a ceiling void.
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If we ever redo our kitchen we could probably arrange it to vent properly, but the kitchen is the least of our worries and seeing as I have never had a properly vented hood it's not like I am missing that right now. It's definitely something someone should have done in a previous renovation though!
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Mar 16, 2020 16:54
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A vented hood would be amazing. We're currently just leaving the oven on the heat our place which isn't ideal. If we don't have the oven on, it's 15 degrees. Luckily the reason the place is 15 degrees is that the 100 year old windows leak badly and you can feel a breeze running through even with all the windows shut so I hopefully won't die from CO.
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Mar 16, 2020 17:09
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im assuming stupid american degrees and not smart euro degrees
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Mar 16, 2020 17:15
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sneakyfrog posted:im assuming stupid american degrees and not smart euro degrees Fairly certain he's European, but regardless, I certainly hope nobody's home is 15 degrees Fahrenheit.
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Mar 16, 2020 21:10
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Baronjutter posted:A vented hood would be amazing. We're currently just leaving the oven on the heat our place which isn't ideal. If we don't have the oven on, it's 15 degrees. Luckily the reason the place is 15 degrees is that the 100 year old windows leak badly and you can feel a breeze running through even with all the windows shut so I hopefully won't die from CO. I love how poo poo cancels out like this sometimes. Sure, your heating bill is obscene, but at least you'll never have to worry about mould or damp! 
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Mar 16, 2020 21:40
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Shut up Meg posted:Above the cupboard on the right? Then I'd have a trailing lead hanging around on the wall. Jaded Burnout posted:Because whomever fitted it was lazy, and yes. This is the right solution and I'll 'do it later™'
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Mar 16, 2020 22:22
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cakesmith handyman posted:Then I'd have a trailing lead hanging around on the wall. Moving the box is more than ONLY moving the box.
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Empty Sandwich posted:serious question: where are they supposed to vent normally? just into the attic? that seems unhygienic at best... that's how it was set up in my childhood home, and I remember that part of the attic being vaguely greasy The only worthwhile hood is one that vents outside and has filters you can pull down and wash. Preferably ones that you can just run though the dishwasher, these days. Otherwise if you like to seriously cook, you're going to end up with a thin film of dusty grease on everything you don't constantly wipe down, like the top of cupboards or fan blades. This is why I figure any house I buy is going to end up with a kitchen reno to put the stove on an outside wall and run a proper high-CFM hood so I can go hog wild without filling the house with smoke and grease.
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Mar 17, 2020 02:32
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Liquid Communism posted:The only worthwhile hood is one that vents outside and has filters you can pull down and wash. Preferably ones that you can just run though the dishwasher, these days. Ugh. This. I love my old house, with the range located...just under a pair of windows. Best we could do was to stick a vent fan in the wall to the right. It's really too far away to do any good, but the only other thing I've found is this weird slit-type intake, sort of like a Jenn-Air range, but everything I've read about them, aside from being hideously expensive, says that they really don't work. Something about how it has to pull ventilation down through the floor so the set-up is incredibly inefficient..
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Mar 17, 2020 03:33
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Yooper posted:I watched a special about the Smithsonian disassembling Julia Childs' kitchen to move it to the museum and they discovered that the hood over the stove was just vented into the wall. Something like 40 years of built up gunk and grease inside of the studs. Not sure if it had an outlet somewhere far below or above but they said it was gross. The vent at my old house was like this from 1961 to 2014.
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Mar 17, 2020 03:59
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God, this whole conversation is hitting waaay too close to home. The fan above my stove stopped working a couple of days ago and I know I have to get up there and take off the cover and deal with the greasy hellscape inside it before everything in my kitchen gets dirty. But, good lord, do I not want to. Megillah Gorilla fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Mar 17, 2020 |
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Mar 17, 2020 04:06
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Megillah Gorilla posted:God, this whole conversation is hitting waaay too close to home. Maybe you'll find something interesting like I did in mine (a mummified gecko)
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Don't say that, I'm already worried there's going to be a partially blended rat in there or something worse. Maybe I'll open it and greasy spiders will rain down on my head and stick to my face.
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Mar 17, 2020 04:28
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Spiders raining down into your food as you cook adds a pleasant zest.
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Mar 17, 2020 04:35
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The secret is to never actually finish installing the ducting and then let it sit for sixteen years without ever using the vent.. No, my dad never cut the holes for the vent after remodeling the kitchen in 2004, why do you ask?
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Mar 17, 2020 06:46
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Proteus Jones posted:Moving the box is more than ONLY moving the box. If you're implying I bury the cable I'll have to change it to wired into a fused spur which means sinking a fused spur box in the current location if I don't want the cable out in the open, basically twice the work of just sinking the socket into the wall in the current location.
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cakesmith handyman posted:If you're implying I bury the cable I'll have to change it to wired into a fused spur which means sinking a fused spur box in the current location if I don't want the cable out in the open, basically twice the work of just sinking the socket into the wall in the current location. Sorry, I didn't realize it was plugged into a receptacle and thought it was hardwired.
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I mean... The HVAC costs are low.
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I used to work out in an MMA gym that was beneath the library parking lot, and the entrance was a shed like that.
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https://imgur.com/gallery/Lfv6Gzb AlphaStructual posting this week's home inspection horrors
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Mar 18, 2020 02:34
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It was probably fine.......? Fifty years ago? Now its just old and run down.
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Mar 18, 2020 11:14
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for a glorious moment I thought the whole house subsided one floor down.
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There's one like that in town. The guys house burned down, no insurance, and he just built a roof over the foundation. Been like that for 20 years now.
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Proteus Jones posted:Sorry, I didn't realize it was plugged into a receptacle and thought it was hardwired. Yeah no worries those are our glorious g-type plugs with many designed-in-safety features including the ability to turn into caltrops if left unattended in the dark.
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Yooper posted:There's one like that in town. The guys house burned down, no insurance, and he just built a roof over the foundation. Been like that for 20 years now. Redefining 'crawlspace'
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Yooper posted:There's one like that in town. The guys house burned down, no insurance, and he just built a roof over the foundation. Been like that for 20 years now. That reminds me of earlier in this thread when we were talking about houses with two kitchens. Build a basement first with a kitchen, then the rest of the house as you can afford it (with another kitchen) . These builders stopped at step one.
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I'm imagining that after you pass through the door you start to shrink as you approach the house so that you can fit well into the house
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Mar 18, 2020 15:06
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Told him to leave the I beams alone but noooo
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MattO posted:I'm imagining that after you pass through the door you start to shrink as you approach the house so that you can fit well into the house lmao this
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