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I'm staff these days, but management was still really cagey about letting me telework. Like, they wouldn't say don't do it, but it was never "yes! Stay home!" It was: "Well, if you have work that can be done, telework. If not, come in or use leave. " I'm thinking, what if I come in and don't have work that can be done? Why wouldn't I have work that could be done? I have a job don't I? What is it you think I do? Wait a second....Why don't you know what I do?!
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# ? Mar 18, 2020 12:34 |
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 14:30 |
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Now SLC and S86 are atc zero due to a loving earthquake. It's actually the end times!
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# ? Mar 18, 2020 15:12 |
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I'm listening to the MDW CTAF at https://www.liveatc.net/hlisten.php?mount=kmdw_1&icao=kmdw Is it normal for people to pattern work and touch and gos at Midway?
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# ? Mar 18, 2020 16:41 |
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If I lived near Chicago and MDW was ATC-0, you bet your rear end I’d be doing touch and goes, even if it were just to piss off the airport authority.
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# ? Mar 18, 2020 16:54 |
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MrYenko posted:If I lived near Chicago and MDW was ATC-0, you bet your rear end I’d be doing touch and goes, even if it were just to piss off the airport authority. This Cessna 172 is living your dream and making 2-3 SWA 737s look for him http://www.aviationdb.com/Aviation/Aircraft/5/N54135.shtm
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# ? Mar 18, 2020 17:05 |
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This site is cool too: https://www.airportviewer.com/airport/KMDW Other airports available as well.
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# ? Mar 18, 2020 18:47 |
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Everything's cool here at ZSE- we have nitrile gloves (large only), extra paper towels to open doors with, and lots of hand sanitizer that the supervisors refill with larger bottles.
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# ? Mar 19, 2020 00:16 |
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hobbesmaster posted:I'm listening to the MDW CTAF at https://www.liveatc.net/hlisten.php?mount=kmdw_1&icao=kmdw The ghost of Meigs is finally avenged and at peace
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# ? Mar 19, 2020 00:42 |
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LAS is apparently ATC zero now. I haven't seen anything official but corona seems like a likely culprit. Are they going to ATC zero the larger tracons/centers when it gets in?
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# ? Mar 19, 2020 06:19 |
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Apologies for being dumb, I follow this thread what does ATC-Zero mean?
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# ? Mar 19, 2020 07:45 |
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Nobody's home. Empty facility. No controllers.
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# ? Mar 19, 2020 07:47 |
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fknlo posted:Are they going to ATC zero the larger tracons/centers when it gets in? Still no hand sanitizer. One container of disinfectant wipes for the entire control room, on the watch desk. But at least we have a discofan. When a center gets a positive test, we’ll see exactly how serious they are, I suppose.
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# ? Mar 19, 2020 10:21 |
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my friend on group chat posted:Someone said airlines are calling the TRACON for push clearances.... LMAO
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# ? Mar 19, 2020 13:55 |
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MrYenko posted:Still no hand sanitizer. One container of disinfectant wipes for the entire control room, on the watch desk. They're so woefully unprepared for this and I don't feel like they've actually made any plans in the time they've had since this poo poo started. vessbot posted:confirm/deny? Probably. It's an uncontrolled field now and therefore one in, one out. It'll be real fun when the tracon goes down and you get center people having to try and deal with this poo poo. Some have fairly busy low sectors that deal with a lot of aircraft going in and out of places, others don't. My old area at ZKC was supposed to take over T75 if they went ATC zero and I don't think that the agency understood that it meant STL would be one in, one out even though they have a tower because we flat out didn't know anything else. e: There's someone that I'm pretty sure is from ZDV that's saying that we have a "presumptive positive". Someone has symptoms and strep and flu tests were negative. They naturally haven't been tested for Corona and they just sent the person home. fknlo fucked around with this message at 15:37 on Mar 19, 2020 |
# ? Mar 19, 2020 15:11 |
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They've provided temporary parking passes for display in our cars so the guards don't have to physically grab our badges and scan them. Only problem is that no one told the guards about this.
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# ? Mar 19, 2020 15:43 |
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An R-school developmental just got tested, waiting on results. His girlfriend went to Switzerland and came back with a confirmed case. HERE WE GO.
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# ? Mar 19, 2020 18:42 |
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MrYenko posted:An R-school developmental just got tested, waiting on results. His girlfriend went to Switzerland and came back with a confirmed case. Good thing he was in the building!
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# ? Mar 19, 2020 18:52 |
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MrYenko posted:An R-school developmental just got tested, waiting on results. His girlfriend went to Switzerland and came back with a confirmed case. I feel like this pandemic would be much less bad if people just weren’t so loving stupid.
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# ? Mar 19, 2020 18:54 |
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Weird, the FAA just booted all non-essential people from the building. I wonder what that could be in reaction to?
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# ? Mar 19, 2020 19:11 |
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Sitting here waiting for them to send the rest of the trainees home as well. We're just hanging out since our natca rep (who's a cpc in my area) made the decision to have us self study unless they page us for a D-side. Help out with that social distancing.
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# ? Mar 19, 2020 19:21 |
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One of my friends pointed out over a week ago that they needed to boot all the d side trainees and poo poo out of the area as it's just a bunch of useless bodies sitting on top of each other spreading diseases. The union told her that it was an unnecessary move and wasn't going to happen.
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# ? Mar 19, 2020 19:22 |
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fknlo posted:One of my friends pointed out over a week ago that they needed to boot all the d side trainees and poo poo out of the area as it's just a bunch of useless bodies sitting on top of each other spreading diseases. The union told her that it was an unnecessary move and wasn't going to happen. We had (adjacent) sectors split with less than three or four airplanes per sector and a floating D-side (not doing a loving thing) LAST NIGHT. Personally, I'm gonna see just how liberal their sick leave policy REALLY is.
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# ? Mar 19, 2020 19:32 |
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MrYenko posted:We had (adjacent) sectors split with less than three or four airplanes per sector and a floating D-side (not doing a loving thing) LAST NIGHT. I have become stuffed up and my throat has a slight tickle. Neither are really symptoms of the virus but I wonder if I'll get sent home? e: at least 2 people here have been sent home but they can't get tested so everything is fine. e2: multiple checkrides to get people their first 2 D's too. fknlo fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Mar 19, 2020 |
# ? Mar 19, 2020 20:27 |
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Can't wait until a Bravo goes ATC-0. That poo poo is going to be nuts.
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# ? Mar 20, 2020 04:16 |
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Could get interesting at JFK tomorrow. Supposed to be operating there in the morning. Needless to say I'll be checking OIS before getting in the van.
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# ? Mar 20, 2020 04:41 |
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It has hit the centers. At least 3 areas at ZID are shut down and they may be going atc zero? Good thing that the areas in a center are their own separate thing and no one interacts.
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# ? Mar 20, 2020 15:14 |
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If centers start closing does that mean that airliners would have to fly VFR?
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# ? Mar 20, 2020 15:17 |
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hobbesmaster posted:If centers start closing does that mean that airliners would have to fly VFR? If they want to stay below FL180 and their company allows it. Realistically you get this:
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# ? Mar 20, 2020 15:18 |
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Or they just re-classify airspace on an emergency basis and they fly IFR in uncontrolled airspace. That is an option, we do pretty frequently in northern Canada. It would represent a huge cut in system capacity, but it's doable especially if flights are restricted to essential flights only.
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# ? Mar 20, 2020 16:00 |
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PT6A posted:Or they just re-classify airspace on an emergency basis and they fly IFR in uncontrolled airspace. That is an option, we do pretty frequently in northern Canada. It would represent a huge cut in system capacity, but it's doable especially if flights are restricted to essential flights only. Uh, do you do one in one out for an entire airway?
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# ? Mar 20, 2020 16:04 |
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hobbesmaster posted:Uh, do you do one in one out for an entire airway? Nope! We have "air routes" which are entirely uncontrolled, and in uncontrolled airspace there is no requirement to operate with a clearance from air traffic control. We have the common enroute frequency up here, which is 126.7, and you work out conflicts yourself. Obviously this is not a workable system with any kind of traffic density, but there are levels of air service which can be maintained for essential flights even in the absence of ATC.
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# ? Mar 20, 2020 16:18 |
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They have TCAS- they can sort it out themselves.
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# ? Mar 20, 2020 17:12 |
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its all nice on rice posted:They have TCAS- they can sort it out themselves. That's basically how they've been doing it
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# ? Mar 20, 2020 17:38 |
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its all nice on rice posted:They have TCAS- they can sort it out themselves. This but unironically.
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# ? Mar 20, 2020 18:25 |
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There's a pretty good network of low level approaches touching each other and the big approaches as well so I imagine they'll end up doing what they did after the ZAU fire and tunnel people going to the major airports down through the approach controls. Any further west and that's not possible, and they may not have to do that anyway as the plan seems to be to clean a couple areas and then go about business as usual. e: It's obvious, but the agency is loving blowing this and doing nothing but their usual reactionary bullshit. They need to be doing whatever the gently caress they can to get their hands on tests and also need to be doing temp screens when you show up to work. This is going to get out of hand so fast and cleaning parts of buildings isn't going to do poo poo. fknlo fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Mar 20, 2020 |
# ? Mar 20, 2020 18:35 |
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ZMA’s trainee tested negative. I guess we’ll see if management takes this seriously going forwards, or if we’re just gonna drive this loving thing onto the first confirmed case. (Lol I can’t wait to catch Coronavirus at work)
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# ? Mar 20, 2020 19:29 |
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MrYenko posted:ZMA’s trainee tested negative. I guess we’ll see if management takes this seriously going forwards, or if we’re just gonna drive this loving thing onto the first confirmed case. At least your people are getting tested! e: email from my old facility on what's going on at ZID quote:What a week this has been! I wanted to update all of you with the most up to date information that I have. I say that "tongue-in-cheek" because information literally changes by the hour. By now you're heard and dealt with the closings at MDW, LAS, and ZID. Since we are a center, I’d like to share some information from the ZID FacRep about how the facility dealt with 3 positive tests. fknlo fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Mar 20, 2020 |
# ? Mar 20, 2020 19:42 |
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We're training a D side right now. The one we certified the other day so he wouldn't have to send home. He'd normally have to season but they just waived that and are loving training him again. They've also restricted entry into the building to the sliding doors by the admin wing. They planned on propping open the outer door so no one would have to touch anything, but it's below freezing and they're worried about the sprinkler pipe freezing. So every single person that comes in the building is touching the same handle. Just absolutely amazing things happening in the agency. e: reddit saying ZNY has a confirmed case. It snowed here a couple days ago and there was no snow removal done. Everything leading up to the one open entrance is solid ice. They had some supervisors go out and clean it up. Rumor is that we used our entire snow removal budget and that's why nothing was done. fknlo fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Mar 21, 2020 |
# ? Mar 21, 2020 16:04 |
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This seems bad https://twitter.com/NYCAviation/status/1241424691262304257
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# ? Mar 21, 2020 19:59 |
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They’ve started resuming again, according to my ATC buddy at ISP.
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