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With apologies to John Campbell--I believe they wanted Pictures for Sad Children essentially wiped from the Internet--but I so love this one, and it's relevant:
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Mar 19, 2020 21:00
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good god, i though my home country of the US was bad with stereotypes in media back in the day 
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Mar 19, 2020 21:28
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Randaconda posted:good god, i though my home country of the US was bad with stereotypes in media back in the day You mean back in the day of February this year?
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Mar 19, 2020 21:31
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Absurd Alhazred posted:You mean back in the day of February this year? 
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Mar 19, 2020 21:47
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Absurd Alhazred posted:You mean back in the day of February this year? good god 
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Mar 19, 2020 21:49
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 Double the racism! Hirayuki posted:With apologies to John Campbell--I believe they wanted Pictures for Sad Children essentially wiped from the Internet--but I so love this one, and it's relevant: Aw, I forgot about this one. 
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Mar 19, 2020 21:58
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Hirayuki posted:With apologies to John Campbell--I believe they wanted Pictures for Sad Children essentially wiped from the Internet--but I so love this one, and it's relevant: PFSC was so good
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Mar 19, 2020 22:33
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Len posted:PFSC was so good
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Mar 19, 2020 22:47
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wyoming posted:
Am I missing something here? Like, is there a racist caricature of a Chinese person hidden in the engraving, or something like that?
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Mar 19, 2020 22:52
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cant cook creole bream posted:Am I missing something here? Lovecraft was super racist and wrote At the Mountains of Madness
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Mar 19, 2020 22:52
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Oh yeah sure. Okay.
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Mar 19, 2020 22:54
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Absurd Alhazred posted:You mean back in the day of February this year? I somehow can't wrap my mind around this. It's like something out of Borat and somehow the organizers can't understand that the grotesque caricatures might actually be offensive. "But what about my freedom of speech?!"  says a man while dressing up as a WWII era jewish caricature. "It's all just for fun!"
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Mar 19, 2020 22:55
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Mar 19, 2020 23:18
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Okay this one was kind of fun.
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Mar 19, 2020 23:29
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Tintin started out as a reporter for the children's section of Catholic newspaper Le Vingtième Siècle (The 20th Century), so it's no surprise he's a bit of a fascist. The early stories are all him going on assignment abroad to see how hosed up the world outside cozy Belgium is.
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Mar 20, 2020 02:37
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Krankenstyle posted:Tintin started out as a reporter for the children's section of Catholic newspaper Le Vingtième Siècle (The 20th Century), so it's no surprise he's a bit of a fascist. The early stories are all him going on assignment abroad to see how hosed up the world outside cozy Belgium is. Even if you ignore the racism (and that's a huge if), Tintin in Belgium is a deeply hosed up book. He kills a monkey and then wears it's skin as a disguise to infiltrate a group (herd, tribe?) of monkeys.
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Mar 20, 2020 03:36
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I loved Tintin as a kid, and still do. I mean sure you can point out to all kinds of really skeevy things now, but I think it's important to understand that if you point at some writing from time period X you should ask yourself if the whole drat world during time period X was hosed up. It usually was. If it doesn't deviate much from that it's not really that important to focus on what a piece of poo poo herge was or whatever. Because he wasn't.
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Mar 20, 2020 03:43
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Nurge posted:I loved Tintin as a kid, and still do. I mean sure you can point out to all kinds of really skeevy things now, but I think it's important to understand that if you point at some writing from time period X you should ask yourself if the whole drat world during time period X was hosed up. It usually was. If it doesn't deviate much from that it's not really that important to focus on what a piece of poo poo herge was or whatever. Because he wasn't. Don't get me wrong, Tintin is great, I'd buy most of the books for any younger relatives, just not that one.
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Mar 20, 2020 03:48
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Skwirl posted:Don't get me wrong, Tintin is great, I'd buy most of the books for any younger relatives, just not that one. Yeah I understand that now. And I do get when I read them as a kid I was just amused by the massive alcoholic captain loving up all the time and the baby detective stuff. The weirder stuff mostly just passed by unnoticed. e: The moon rocket one was amazing. I think I read that one so many times the pages came off.
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Mar 20, 2020 03:53
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Nurge posted:Yeah I understand that now. And I do get when I read them as a kid I was just amused by the massive alcoholic captain loving up all the time and the baby detective stuff. The weirder stuff mostly just passed by unnoticed. I'm American and grew up with Tintin books and I'm pretty sure Tintin in the Congo just flat out wasn't available for purchase in the US until well after I became an adult. It should also be noted that Belgium has a unique history with Congo
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Mar 20, 2020 03:57
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Skwirl posted:I'm American and grew up with Tintin books and I'm pretty sure Tintin in the Congo just flat out wasn't available for purchase in the US until well after I became an adult. Wintin @hergil posted:issuing correction on a previous comic of mine, regarding the terror group Belgium. you do not, under any circumstances, "gotta hand it to them".
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Mar 20, 2020 04:01
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Mar 20, 2020 07:48
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Tintin rules and everyone, including Herge, agrees that Tintin in Congo is racist garbage. I find extremely interesting how Herge managed to predict some global events in his comics. Tintin landed on the moon and witnessed a Japanese invasion of China, both several years before they actually happened. Also, in the earlier albums Tintin is a reporter, but later becomes just a generic explorer/adventurer. Why? Because Belgium was occupied by Nazis and Herge had to be careful while writing so that the Gestapo wouldn't disappear him. If you can get your hands on a companion book it's very fascinating stuff. Anyways, here's some more Tintin's adventures in H.P. Lovecraft.   
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Mar 20, 2020 08:21
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Lord Hypnostache posted:Tintin rules and everyone, including Herge, agrees that Tintin in Congo is racist garbage. I find extremely interesting how Herge managed to predict some global events in his comics. Tintin landed on the moon and witnessed a Japanese invasion of China, both several years before they actually happened. Japan had already invaded China years before The Blue Lotus was published.
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Mar 20, 2020 08:31
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Skwirl posted:Japan had already invaded China years before The Blue Lotus was published. And that was hardly the first time.
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Mar 20, 2020 09:39
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landing on the moon was also an obsession for about as long as people knew it was a big rock in space and i think it's easy to forget that because it got accomplished in grandpa times
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Mar 20, 2020 09:57
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Skwirl posted:Even if you ignore the racism (and that's a huge if), Tintin in Belgium is a deeply hosed up book. He kills a monkey and then wears it's skin as a disguise to infiltrate a group (herd, tribe?) of monkeys. Wow, he really let himself go while at Antwerp Zoo!
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Mar 20, 2020 09:59
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Mar 20, 2020 10:11
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Screaming Idiot posted:
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Mar 20, 2020 10:15
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Early Cowboy Henk?
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Mar 20, 2020 10:20
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I've also seen and even TOUCHED a cooter
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Mar 20, 2020 10:24
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Zzulu posted:I've also seen and even TOUCHED a cooter What did Mrs Davenport say about that
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Mar 20, 2020 10:45
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Zzulu posted:I've also seen and even TOUCHED a cooter Lol, you idiot, that's how you get cooties. You're hosed now.
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Mar 20, 2020 11:21
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Krankenstyle posted:Early Cowboy Henk? Cowboy Henk's been around since the 80's
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Mar 20, 2020 11:23
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Skwirl posted:Even if you ignore the racism (and that's a huge if), Tintin in Belgium is a deeply hosed up book. He kills a monkey and then wears it's skin as a disguise to infiltrate a group (herd, tribe?) of monkeys. A group of monkeys is a troop. He also kills a rhino by drilling a hole in it's hide and dropping dynamite inside.
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Mar 20, 2020 11:57
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Lord Hypnostache posted:Tintin rules and everyone, including Herge, agrees that Tintin in Congo is racist garbage. I find extremely interesting how Herge managed to predict some global events in his comics. Tintin landed on the moon and witnessed a Japanese invasion of China, both several years before they actually happened. These are cool. And regarding Tintin in Congo, and to a degree Tintin in America, they're mostly baffling. But that doesn't taint the raw cartoonic genius of Herge in his later comics. I learned to read when I was four because I found Tintin at my library, and I still enjoy the albums today.
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Mar 20, 2020 12:02
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Krankenstyle posted:Early Cowboy Henk? Pekkos Bill Zzulu posted:I've also seen and even TOUCHED a cooter  (I know that's not the right smiley name but I'll just keep using it until it's fixed to be so.) e: Well fry me for an oyster!
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Mar 20, 2020 12:19
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Zzulu posted:I've also seen and even TOUCHED a cooter did it feel like sand? I always imagined it feels like sand.
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Mar 20, 2020 12:23
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LifeSunDeath posted:did it feel like sand? I always imagined it feels like sand. More like peanut brittle.
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