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Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
I still remember when the previous ADTRW mod had a meltdown over the cultural importance of anime in the wake of the tsunami disaster.

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jetz0r
May 10, 2003

Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing.



luxury handset posted:

yeah, 4chan wasn't set up as a result of a purge, it was just a general offsite migration that was hastened by people getting probated/banned for being annoying about anime or posting anime porn in ADTRW

at the time there were two different goon P2P piracy servers, the something awful direct connect hub (SADCHUB) and raspberry heaven. SADCHUB was supposed to be for not-anime and raspberry heaven was for anime, but they were like 90% the same people logged into both. some of the earliest discussion of setting up an english language 2ch clone was on raspberry heaven. but the fact that there was an anime and not-anime split in the goon filesharing scene indicates the general conflict over anime that drove people to 4chan (also, you could post anime porn there)

The main thing I remember from back then is some goons running scripts to dl the pictures from Japanese image boards and finding tons of child porn in the pic pile.

weed cat
Dec 23, 2010

weed cat is back, and he loves to suck dick



:sueme:

jetz0r posted:

The main thing I remember from back then is some goons running scripts to dl the pictures from Japanese image boards and finding tons of child porn in the pic pile.

imageboards... imageboards never changes

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



weed cat posted:

imageboards... imageboards never changes

Forget it, weed cat...it's internettown

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Proteus Jones posted:

No, they managed to do it all on their own and then doubled down when warned not post that poo poo. Cue thread closures and permaban waves.

I think the latest one involved a manga with naked children wrestling in a mud pit. It was called art and compared to the works of Renaissance Masters in thread.

Literally exactly what happened. It started off as discussion about the new manga from the Berserk author someone said something as innocuous as "let's not talk about the thing with a bunch of naked child butts" and suddenly a handful of people started a chain of effort posts about cherubs in European art and cultural identity and something else. Like the mere idea that anyone was bothered by it was enough to motivate more then one person to ardently defend it.

Similar thing happened with the Library of Alexandria of hentai was shut down. It was a massive, massive imagehost with no restrictions on images, so go figure what the majority of the content was. While discussing that in a random GBS thread again, people jump out to start claiming censorship, government overreach, "its not real so its not illegal" and straight up burning their account saying they'd rather eat a ban then not argue their defense of anime child porn sorry "free speech" according to them.

And then there was WickedHate, who among a lot of other problems could not stop trying to start conversations about how it just wasn't that bad and really a completely normal thing and ate almost a dozen bans/probs for that very subject before getting a perma.
https://forums.somethingawful.com/banlist.php?userid=203591

Here's the link for it, and it includes this plea by Solice Kirk.

quote:

Can someone maybe make another thread for the naked little kid comic? I don't come in here too often, but gently caress that poo poo. I don't want some weird pedo comic closing down the one place I can go to for good Berserk translations/discussion.

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2538641&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=327

Quotes of interest

Laputanmachine posted:

nudity =/= sexual

hth

Edit: To clarify, I know nudity is a really big taboo in the U.S. of A, but it is not necessarily so in other parts of the world and it doesn't always carry sexual connotations.

Expect My Mom posted:

I'm honestly really weirded out by how everyone else is weirded out, the newest chapter of Duranki did not phase me at at all. Maybe it's because I'm used to Japanese works using nudity as representations of purity or that Japanese families regiar;y bathe with their children into their 10's and 11s, but I really found nothing objectionable. Usum's body is clearly a plot point so to claim that Miura and his assistants are just "drawing one handed" is really dumb

Augus posted:

I mean it’s no more sexualized and the character designs of Duranki draw very direct influence from art of cherubs

pentyne fucked around with this message at 04:37 on Mar 22, 2020

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



Something Awful's Greatest Sagas:

pentyne posted:

the thing with a bunch of naked child butts

hallelujah
Jan 26, 2020

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
the library of alexandria of hentai

Ariong
Jun 25, 2012




quote:

I know people feel uncomfortable about all the butt shots, but I think that's only part of what puts people off. There's something about the design of the kids, they feel more realistic than most anime kids. For example, you see ribs showing on their skinny bodies.

Very normal. Definitely not vomit-inducing in the slightest. The brush of michelangelo. American prudes.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

hallelujah posted:

the library of alexandria of hentai

On the bright(?) side, that library's too coated with fluids to ever catch fire.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


pentyne posted:

Literally exactly what happened. It started off as discussion about the new manga from the Berserk author someone said something as innocuous as "let's not talk about the thing with a bunch of naked child butts" and suddenly a handful of people started a chain of effort posts about cherubs in European art and cultural identity and something else. Like the mere idea that anyone was bothered by it was enough to motivate more then one person to ardently defend it.

Similar thing happened with the Library of Alexandria of hentai was shut down. It was a massive, massive imagehost with no restrictions on images, so go figure what the majority of the content was. While discussing that in a random GBS thread again, people jump out to start claiming censorship, government overreach, "its not real so its not illegal" and straight up burning their account saying they'd rather eat a ban then not argue their defense of anime child porn sorry "free speech" according to them.

And then there was WickedHate, who among a lot of other problems could not stop trying to start conversations about how it just wasn't that bad and really a completely normal thing and ate almost a dozen bans/probs for that very subject before getting a perma.
https://forums.somethingawful.com/banlist.php?userid=203591

Here's the link for it, and it includes this plea by Solice Kirk.


https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2538641&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=327

Quotes of interest

Wickedhate was a fascist pedophile transperson teenager with autism. There was a lot to unpack in their bad posting and I hope that as they've gotten older they've realized that and grown as a person

Grandmother of Five
May 9, 2008


I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.
lol @ all the Shampy stuff earlier & all of the over-sharing video game fetish stuff


I could misread, but the person who posted a torrent link to the comic on the forums and made the fan-translation to that comic, for some reason, didn't get punished, at all, while the people discussing and defending it does, and the same for a bunch of people posting appreciations for the posts? It's the post that gets linked straight to here also, I'm pretty sure? That's really weird if true, but I'm not clicking the link to find out. The bans and permas do seem on-point to me btw, but I don't get why the person posting the comic in the first place didn't get a perma for pedo poo poo, too, if they sat down and translated it and posted it, and it is bad enough to get bans and permas for people defending it.

I must be missing something obvious, or it seems like a weak purge if that stuff is pedo poo poo and the person posting it + people going "thanks man" aren't made to gently caress off.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

hallelujah posted:

the library of alexandria of hentai

I feel like this is a reference I understood at one time but have successfully purged from my memory.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
thank Caesar, ostensibly

joylessdivision
Jun 15, 2013



Nuns with Guns posted:

I didn't google the video itself, but thankfully there's lots of colorful descriptions of it in the preview text on search results

Could have spared the Googling and just looked at the front page https://www.somethingawful.com/horrors-of-porn/horrible-saga-swapavi/1/

I think this might have been one of the first things I read on the site.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??

joylessdivision posted:

Could have spared the Googling and just looked at the front page https://www.somethingawful.com/horrors-of-porn/horrible-saga-swapavi/1/

I think this might have been one of the first things I read on the site.

I genuinely feel like I went through an ordeal just reading that. I hope Metis is dead

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Grandmother of Five posted:

lol @ all the Shampy stuff earlier & all of the over-sharing video game fetish stuff


I could misread, but the person who posted a torrent link to the comic on the forums and made the fan-translation to that comic, for some reason, didn't get punished, at all, while the people discussing and defending it does, and the same for a bunch of people posting appreciations for the posts? It's the post that gets linked straight to here also, I'm pretty sure? That's really weird if true, but I'm not clicking the link to find out. The bans and permas do seem on-point to me btw, but I don't get why the person posting the comic in the first place didn't get a perma for pedo poo poo, too, if they sat down and translated it and posted it, and it is bad enough to get bans and permas for people defending it.

I must be missing something obvious, or it seems like a weak purge if that stuff is pedo poo poo and the person posting it + people going "thanks man" aren't made to gently caress off.

I think adtrw has a fairly lenient policy of "okay, cut it out that isnt acceptable" when the topic comes up and everyone got a pass so long as they didnt dig in and try to insist it continue. The only people who ate a perma were the ones going "lol American prudes" and "the naked children are for plot reasons also this is normal in Japan"

The "what about cherubs let's just cancel the Italian Renaissance" guy only got a prob because he was keeping the discussion going when everyone had been told to shut it down.

PHIZ KALIFA
Dec 21, 2011

#mood
worth noting that the renaissance was largely a product of that totally above-board and reliable organization you might know as The Catholic Church, famous for having unimpeachible motivations for gazing at a child's rear end.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
They got tired of looking at Homunculi

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

PHIZ KALIFA posted:

worth noting that the renaissance was largely a product of that totally above-board and reliable organization you might know as The Catholic Church, famous for having unimpeachible motivations for gazing at a child's rear end.

Also not for nothing but the classic mistake of applying 21st century standards to 16th century is a meaningless discussion, society in general was so fundamentally different it cant be compared like that.

Its like reading Heart of Darkness and going "gently caress this book Conrad comes off as a bit racist" when for something written in 1902 its a shockingly progressive take on race given the societal standards at the time. (I think, its been quite a while since I read it)

Otoh applying those same 21st century standards to something made a few months ago is a completely valid point and not at all out of place.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

pentyne posted:

Also not for nothing but the classic mistake of applying 21st century standards to 16th century is a meaningless discussion, society in general was so fundamentally different it cant be compared like that.

Its like reading Heart of Darkness and going "gently caress this book Conrad comes off as a bit racist" when for something written in 1902 its a shockingly progressive take on race given the societal standards at the time. (I think, its been quite a while since I read it)

Otoh applying those same 21st century standards to something made a few months ago is a completely valid point and not at all out of place.

Racism and pedophilia have always been wrong, even if racists and pedophiles of the past try and say it wasn't.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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My favorite part was when one of the people defending it followed me around the site calling me a snitch. Might be the first time I have ever gotten angry at a computer screen while not playing Red Alert 2 in my life.

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

Malachite_Dragon posted:

It wasn't Berserk, but it was being drawn by the same person who does that one. If you know anything about all the pointlessly horrible poo poo that happens in Berserk, you already know what was getting set up in the new one.

If I remember right, Kentaro Miura (the Berserk creator) is handling the storyboard and rough outlines for Duranki (the one with all the naked child butts, don't be a google fool like me!) His assistants are doing most of the work in making the comic itself, but Miura is dictating the direction of the story and has final say in the product. But yeah, Berserk has a few moments of violent rapes against women and children (including Guts at a young age.) He also made a one-shot comic a while ago where a guy gets heals and buffs from a magic little girl pissing on is face. It paints a very specific picture about the guy and anyone who tries to say Duranki's art direction is completely innocuous and free of any pedophilic undertones is fooling themselves or lying.

joylessdivision posted:

Could have spared the Googling and just looked at the front page https://www.somethingawful.com/horrors-of-porn/horrible-saga-swapavi/1/

I think this might have been one of the first things I read on the site.

How dare you ask me to read the front page of this website

Garrand
Dec 28, 2012

Rhino, you did this to me!

Nuns with Guns posted:

He also made a one-shot comic a while ago where a guy gets heals and buffs from a magic little girl pissing on is face.

Does he also DM a D&D group?

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Garrand posted:

Does he also DM a D&D group?

wait a second the whizzer is a old dude

Garrand
Dec 28, 2012

Rhino, you did this to me!

Yeah but we dont know how old any of the other characters are

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






FilthyImp posted:

The alternate reality where Lowtax splits The Porn Place off, accidentally stumbles on streamed porn before RedTube, makes a mint and retires while married to a nice, stable, DVDA actress.

Don't show this to Lowtax, I don't think he could handle it.

Veni Vidi Ameche!
Nov 2, 2017

by Fluffdaddy
Does anyone remember the goon with early-onset dementia? Who was that? Did he or she continue to post about it?

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.
You ask that every week, ugh!

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.

Veni Vidi Ameche! posted:

Does anyone remember the goon with early-onset dementia? Who was that? Did he or she continue to post about it?

Yeah, what is Joe Biden's username anyway?

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Screaming Idiot posted:

Yeah, what is Joe Biden's username anyway?

It's definitely not me. I assure you.

Eh! Frank
Mar 28, 2006

Doctor gave me these, I said what are these?
He said that they'll cure an existential type disease

CaptainSarcastic posted:

It's definitely not me. I assure you.

We know you're not Biden, you're still alive and posting

EasilyConfused
Nov 21, 2009


one strong toad

CPColin posted:

You ask that every week, ugh!

:golfclap:

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

.

CPColin posted:

You ask that every week, ugh!

Hahaha! Thank you, I needed that this morning.

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

Not a saga as it burns out too fast but :staredog:

Brute Hole Force posted:

Tell that to the neighbor's dog that killed my pet chicken when I was 8 and I gut shot it with an arrow for revenge the following night.
Or the stray that I caught mauling my cat when I came home from work one morning ten years ago, and I broke it's back hip to skull with a shovel.
And when I get to hell I look forward to doing it again because there are plenty of bad dogs.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

zoom-zoom
Toilet Rascal
Permaban them please. I don't wanna be on a forum with somebody like that.

hallelujah
Jan 26, 2020

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
yikes

TTerrible
Jul 15, 2005
They've been posting here for fifteen years and just snapped tonight and started ranting about murdering animals. Something Awul is truly great.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

.
Quarantine starting to bring out the weird.

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

The specificity on gut-shotting the dog so it dies in agony is loving psychopathic.

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slinkimalinki
Jan 17, 2010
Uh, that probation is a placeholder for a permaban, right?

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