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The T-Virus has had a colorful history throughout the series and is rarely consistent. In general, you get infected via getting bitten by an infectee, and the infection proceeds to slowly kill you; there are also examples of it being transmitted aerially, like on Rockfort Island in CV. The figure given in Wesker's Report II back in the day is that roughly 10% of the human population are just flat-out immune to the T-Virus due to lucky genetics. There's kind of a basis in-game for a theory that you can build partial immunity/resistance to the T-Virus pretty quickly through exposure (Jill's series-long arc, Yoko in Outbreak), as well as the virus being vastly slowed in healthier subjects (Kevin is a hot mess in Outbreak and has the fastest virus gauge; all the people we've ever seen who got bit, then succumbed quickly were also heavily wounded or visibly unhealthy or both). Neo Rasa posted:If I'm remembering the Wesker report stuff correctly, I don't think the zombies in the mansion in RE1 were even infected "naturally" but were all intentionally infected by Wesker/etc. to see how they'd perform against S.T.A.R.S. Each zombie is technically a failure at creating a Tyrant but I guess they figured they'd roll with it. But they don't count on the virus evolving or getting their work getting out of the mansion/NEST proper or the virus evolving fast enough to spread throughout the city more quickly. It's one of those things where they never explicitly said what happened, but basically, James Marcus came back from the dead and infected everyone. It wasn't actually a containment breach. The last two guys who didn't succumb to the virus opted to shoot themselves about three weeks afterward. Wesker exploited the situation to amp up his asking price for the research, but didn't create it.
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Wanderer posted:It's one of those things where they never explicitly said what happened, but basically, James Marcus came back from the dead and infected everyone. It wasn't actually a containment breach. The last two guys who didn't succumb to the virus opted to shoot themselves about three weeks afterward. Wesker exploited the situation to amp up his asking price for the research, but didn't create it. Yeah now it's starting to come back to me. Speaking of which, was the company Wesker was going to sell to ever named?
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Mar 24, 2020 00:24
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Also, don't know how many people notice this, but in the Demo, Jill actually starts with a File in her inventory where she muses about her apparent immunity possibly just being an extended incubation period.
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Mar 24, 2020 00:40
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Neo Rasa posted:Speaking of which, was the company Wesker was going to sell to ever named? No, although given later events, you could probably just assume it was Tricell.
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Mar 24, 2020 00:41
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DanielCross posted:Also, don't know how many people notice this, but in the Demo, Jill actually starts with a File in her inventory where she muses about her apparent immunity possibly just being an extended incubation period. LOL I didn't notice this at all and it basically answers what we were all discussing. Interesting, the way it's worded seems like the crows in RE1 are just plain old regular crows and can carry the T-virus but don't mutate
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Mar 24, 2020 00:51
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I finished the demo and from what I can guess, some people didn't go back to the train and find out that Carlos is clearing the tracks of rubble. Jill also has a strong knife attack that also doubles as a retreat.
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Mar 24, 2020 03:13
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i really disliked the whole james marcus causing the outbreak in the mansion for revenge retcon why couldnt it have just stayed some overworked jackasses loving up, y'know, like most industrial accidents
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0 rows returned posted:i really disliked the whole james marcus causing the outbreak in the mansion for revenge retcon Yeah, I way prefer 'we just hosed up because we're working with a crazy virus under dumb conditions in an evil mansion.'
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Mar 24, 2020 03:26
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Night10194 posted:Yeah, I way prefer 'we just hosed up because we're working with a crazy Biohazard under dumb conditions in an RESIDENT, EEEVIL mansion.'
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Mar 24, 2020 03:49
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0 rows returned posted:why couldnt it have just stayed some overworked jackasses loving up, y'know, like most industrial accidents That's exactly what happened because RE0 is a glorified fanfic and nothing more than a weird stress dream Rebecca had while hiding away in the mansion.
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Mar 24, 2020 10:57
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Wasn't RE0 only possible becuase W and W left Marcus's old experimental t-virus infected leeches just sitting at the crime scene next to the body? That still probably qualifies as jackasses loving up, even if it did take an oddly long time to bite them on the rear end.
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Mar 24, 2020 11:20
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Neo Rasa posted:LOL I didn't notice this at all and it basically answers what we were all discussing. Yeah the RE1 crows just become super aggressive / territorial. The T-virus has various effects on animal life, some get zombified like humans, some just become aggressive and some get really really big. I think RE1 has normal sized snakes as well as the Yawn.
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Mar 24, 2020 12:24
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It sure does, they all fall on you at the pool you drain and then climb back up while you're away to fall on you again
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Mar 24, 2020 12:44
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That was the one fun thing I remember about Wesker Report (well, besides the very spooky art work), Wesker figuring out that the virus could spread to animals, that they were next to a forest and going "You did this poo poo on purpose, didn't you"
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Mar 24, 2020 14:44
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Good Lord Fisher! posted:It sure does, they all fall on you at the pool you drain and then climb back up while you're away to fall on you again gently caress that part lol Resident Evil series in general just fuckin' rules DeathChicken posted:That was the one fun thing I remember about Wesker Report (well, besides the very spooky art work), Wesker figuring out that the virus could spread to animals, that they were next to a forest and going "You did this poo poo on purpose, didn't you" I'm hoping Resistance has something akin to the zoo section from the Outbreak series because that owned
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Resident evil does have the most accurate representation of a Corp in any media. If something you do fails just pretend it didn’t happen and try again but harder
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CharlestheHammer posted:Resident evil does have the most accurate representation of a Corp in any media. And also all the guys at the top are whiny aristocrats who think they're the masters of the universe and are super into eugenics.
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Mar 24, 2020 15:33
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CharlestheHammer posted:Resident evil does have the most accurate representation of a Corp in any media. Does the government ever bail Umbrella out though? Definitely have to have the "Do stupid poo poo, have the taxpayers pay for it" part for a realistic representation of Late Stage Capitalism.
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Mar 24, 2020 15:36
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The entire Raccoon City government is eager to do and cover up whatever Umbrella wants because they're job creators, does that count.
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Mar 24, 2020 15:40
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I don't think any government on the planet could bail out a gently caress-up so big, it caused Midwestern town to get nuked.
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Night10194 posted:And also all the guys at the top are whiny aristocrats who think they're the masters of the universe and are super into eugenics. I always liked the deranged ultra rich modern nobility aspect of the series because of how much the original RE takes from video nasty-caliber exploitation flicks like Anthropophagus/etc. that would emphasize bizarre family secrets/etc. Also in true accuracy to corporations irl, Wesker's sense of American exceptionalism thinks he's more down to earth than folks like the Ashfords and Morpheuses and Sergeis of the game's setting and that all this other stuff going on doesn't actually effect him at all, but of course he's exactly the same in reality. But I just like how that bit of one of the series' trashier inspirations has stayed with it to the present. DanielCross posted:I don't think any government on the planet could bail out a gently caress-up so big, it caused Midwestern town to get nuked. Baby steps... https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/deadly-west-texas-fertilizer-plant-explosion-was-criminal-act-feds-n572231 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/explos...mergency-today/
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Wanderer posted:It's one of those things where they never explicitly said what happened, but basically, James Marcus came back from the dead and infected everyone. It wasn't actually a containment breach. I had the extraordinary misfortune of playing back through RE0 just a few weeks ago for the first time since launch, and I didn't remember this at the time, but there's actually a cutscene in the training facility where Marcus just straight-up says "It was I who released the T-Virus in the mansion" into the camera. I'm not sure why he outright confessed to it, as he was in an empty room and presumably had no way of knowing that Wesker and Birkin were watching him through the security cameras, but I guess Capcom really felt they had to specify that detail. edit: Just to get it out here, you guys were probably aware of this already, but RE0 loving sucks. I have very low standards and enjoy almost all of the RE games greatly (some more than others), but there were a few points through that replay of 0 where I was like "do I really want to keep playing this". Solomonic fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Mar 24, 2020 |
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DanielCross posted:I don't think any government on the planet could bail out a gently caress-up so big, it caused Midwestern town to get nuked. there is no such thing as a corporate bailout too big for america
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At least the train section in RE0 is good. Honestly I wish a new RE game would rip that off again instead of another cruise ship. Go full Snowpiercer even.
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For one game I'd like it if they mixed things up and started you in a lab locked down due to contamination procedures, then you have to escape by solving dumb chess piece puzzles or something. Then you get to the fake factory they built to disguise the labs, escape through the sewers and have a final battle with hordes of zombies in the city streets. A bit like 4th Survivor but a proper game version of it.
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Convex posted:For one game I'd like it if they mixed things up and started you in a lab locked down due to contamination procedures, then you have to escape by solving dumb chess piece puzzles or something. Then you get to the fake factory they built to disguise the labs, escape through the sewers and have a final battle with hordes of zombies in the city streets. A bit like 4th Survivor but a proper game version of it. They kinda sorta went in this direction with the first two RE movies. I kind of wish Cavia was still a thing because that or an RE game built around a train would be perfect Gun Survivor material. For a mostly shooting stuff game it makes a more natural flow of isolated lab -> more open factory -> oh poo poo the city streets are filled with BOWs everywhere. Man, Cavia <3
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I hope there's at least SOME boat segment action in RE8 of course though.
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Raxivace posted:Honestly I wish a new RE game would rip that off again instead of another cruise ship. Go full Snowpiercer even. but we need to pay homage to that instant RE Classic Dead Aim
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Dead Aim was actually fun as heck if you had the guncon, which I had bought to cut down on how much I played Time Crisis in the arcade when I was a freshman in college. Dead Aim was also amazingly, wonderfully stupid.
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MH Knights posted:Does the government ever bail Umbrella out though? Definitely have to have the "Do stupid poo poo, have the taxpayers pay for it" part for a realistic representation of Late Stage Capitalism. Umbrella is basically Jeffrey Epstein in this scenario. Doesn't matter if you're rich and powerful if the richer and more powerful decide you've become a liability.
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The games also make a point of showing at various times, particularly in RE3 and both Outbreaks, that Umbrella may just be a legal front for the viral experiments, but that legal front is an international juggernaut that makes most of the drugs and cosmetics that you'd find in an average person's house. It's not just that it was rich, but that its fall probably had a short-term impact on getting basic staples worldwide.
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As someone else said: The irony of Umbrella is that a real-world company that produced something like First Aid Spray would make infinite money. Just Umbrella doesn't give a poo poo about money, Umbrella is entirely the fever-dream of eugenicist aristocrat idiots. The absolute commitment to 'these racist eugenicist pricks are monsters' is one of my favorite weird details about this dumb action-horror series.
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Night10194 posted:Dead Aim was actually fun as heck if you had the guncon, which I had bought to cut down on how much I played Time Crisis in the arcade when I was a freshman in college. If you don't have a Guncon, the shooting apparently works incredibly well with a standard USB mouse. If the pad is giving you issues, y'know.
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Night10194 posted:As someone else said: The irony of Umbrella is that a real-world company that produced something like First Aid Spray would make infinite money. Just Umbrella doesn't give a poo poo about money, Umbrella is entirely the fever-dream of eugenicist aristocrat idiots. The absolute commitment to 'these racist eugenicist pricks are monsters' is one of my favorite weird details about this dumb action-horror series. When I was a teen I laughed because of how cartoony Umbrella was. As an adult I’ve realized nah that’s just how they act
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Did Gun Survivor 2: Code Veronica ever actually get ported to anything or was it just arcade only? It's the only one in the series I never played myself. But they retread it in a cool way in Darkside Chronicles.
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It was ported to PS2 but only released in Japan and Europe.
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Night10194 posted:As someone else said: The irony of Umbrella is that a real-world company that produced something like First Aid Spray would make infinite money. Just Umbrella doesn't give a poo poo about money, Umbrella is entirely the fever-dream of eugenicist aristocrat idiots. The absolute commitment to 'these racist eugenicist pricks are monsters' is one of my favorite weird details about this dumb action-horror series. The novelizations doubled down on this, and built the entire thing around the typical "Big Pharma" conspiracy bullshit. That version's T-Virus was originally a super cure that the execs didn't want, because Curing A Disease Is Bad For Profit. So they assassinated the inventor and turned the work over to Birkin to develop as a weapon.
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Gnoman posted:Jill's handgun in the demo is a Glock, not the iconic Beretta/"Samurai Edge". This is petty since they're functionally the same, but it just feels wrong. I just got around playing the demo. This feels wrong using a Glock. Nothing wrong with a Glock in general but I always remembered the iconic Beretta in lore.
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One of the reasons that it annoys me is that the Glock is too good to be a "starter weapon" like Claire's little revolver in RE2make. If she starts with it in the full game, there's little reason to find the Beretta in the RPD or something and switch to it. A Glock makes a lot of sense, especially if we want to assume it is her personal property instead of RPD issue. It just feels out of place in the series.
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I'm going to be mildly upset if Jill doesn't have her Samurai Edge. Dunno why CAPCOM lets that particular carrot rot. I think I'd be annoyed if it was an unlock weapon like last game, or some weird pre-order bonus. She should have it on principle.
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