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xopods
Oct 26, 2010

Infinitum posted:

I'm going into a meeting now and can't respond. You pushing this is scummy as hell.

I'm explicitly not pushing anything at this point. I'm trying to figure out who we have the votes to kill, because no-lynching will all but guarantee we lose the game.

For that reason, I'll vote for anyone.

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xopods
Oct 26, 2010

It sucks because we're almost certainly going to lynch Town. Scum can talk to each other and remind each other that deadline's coming up, so I'd wager that the absentees will skew towards Town.

xopods
Oct 26, 2010

xopods posted:

It sucks because we're almost certainly going to lynch Town. Scum can talk to each other and remind each other that deadline's coming up, so I'd wager that the absentees will skew towards Town.

(And of course, the Scum won't consent to lynch a Scum if they know there aren't enough Town around to lynch one of them on our own.)

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


Basically no one around an no real movement elsewhere ##vote inf

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


chaoslord posted:

Basically no one around an no real movement elsewhere ##vote inf

Scummy rear end post

Infinitum
Jul 30, 2004


xopods posted:

For that reason, I'll vote for anyone.

Flawed scummy logic

votefinder
Jul 6, 2010

scoop scoop
Votecount for Day 3

Infinitum (5): MY INEVITABLE DEBT, Toalpaz, MY INEVITABLE DEBT, Toalpaz, xopods, Squiggly, MY INEVITABLE DEBT, Toalpaz, chaoslord
flerp (2): xopods, Sandwolf, Amnistar, Amnistar, Amnistar, xopods
Toalpaz (1): Jen X
Sandwolf (1): Infinitum, MY INEVITABLE DEBT, Squiggly, flerp, Infinitum, Squiggly, MY INEVITABLE DEBT
Lynch No One! (1): Infinitum
Jen X (0): Amnistar, Amnistar
A Sometimes Food (0): Jen X, Toalpaz, Amnistar, Amnistar, Toalpaz, Jen X

Not Voting (1): A Sometimes Food

With 11 alive, it's 6 votes to execute. The current deadline is March 24th, 2020 at 11 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 11 minutes.

Starting day 2 if you don't have more posts than me by the end of the day there will be anti lurker mechanics activated.

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


Jesus I hate this infi lunch

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


Sandwolf posted:

Scummy rear end post

If you have a better, viable lunch candidate I'd love to hear it. I think Xopods is right about the no lunch being bad. I am very behind in the thread and admitted as much, and there were a lot of people hemming and hawing like "I'd lunch ASF" and I asked for someone to post the case and no one did. After, what, 10 posts in the 45 mintues before my vote from 3 different people that aren't me, 4 people if you count votefinder, it's clear that this is a ghost town. There are what, four of us around now between me you inf and xo? Even if all 4 of us agreed on a candidate we couldn't make a lunch happen.

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


Sandwolf posted:

Jesus I hate this infi lunch

You're in luck because I don't think it's actually going to happen

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


chaoslord posted:

You're in luck because I don't think it's actually going to happen

See the issue is I can change that

xopods
Oct 26, 2010

Toalpaz, Squiggly and ASF are probably Scum together honestly, since ASF's the other person we could get if either Toalpaz or Squiggly would vote him, but they won't.

xopods
Oct 26, 2010

If Infi would vote ASF we could do that instead of him. So, quit being a stubborn jerk Infi. No blaming me for this.

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


xopods posted:

If Infi would vote ASF we could do that instead of him. So, quit being a stubborn jerk Infi. No blaming me for this.

plz I’d rather ASF than Infi

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


Who am I kidding, 3 mins left,

whatever, apathetic rear end town

##vote Infi

votefinder
Jul 6, 2010

scoop scoop
Votecount for Day 3

Infinitum (6): MY INEVITABLE DEBT, Toalpaz, MY INEVITABLE DEBT, Toalpaz, xopods, Squiggly, MY INEVITABLE DEBT, Toalpaz, chaoslord, Sandwolf
Toalpaz (1): Jen X
Sandwolf (1): Infinitum, MY INEVITABLE DEBT, Squiggly, flerp, Infinitum, Squiggly, MY INEVITABLE DEBT
flerp (1): xopods, Sandwolf, Amnistar, Amnistar, Amnistar, xopods, Sandwolf
Lynch No One! (1): Infinitum
Jen X (0): Amnistar, Amnistar
A Sometimes Food (0): Jen X, Toalpaz, Amnistar, Amnistar, Toalpaz, Jen X

Not Voting (1): A Sometimes Food

With 11 alive, it's 6 votes to execute. The current deadline is March 24th, 2020 at 11 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 1 minute.

Starting day 2 if you don't have more posts than me by the end of the day there will be anti lurker mechanics activated.

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

A Winner is you!
:siren: news flash! :siren:

"Is this thing on?"

"On the scene reporter Biggs here. Another Galbadian soldier was downed right in front of me.

Groups of soldiers are beginning to desert and the battlefield is beginning to look bleak. And , oh god, another monster?! What is that thing?!!"


Infinitum - Ward - Town aligned was killed in battle on day 3!



You are Ward

You are town aligned and win when you eliminate all threats to town.

If attacking, Ward may choose another player during an encounter, that player will be forced to attack instead of whatever they were doing.


It is now Encounter 3!

Tonberry King!!



This encounter is Hard difficulty.

Items possible to be gained by this encounter are Royal Crown

Drawn spell for this encounter is Meteor

Please send me your encounter actions!

Encounter 3 will end in 24 hours from this post or once all actions are in.

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

A Winner is you!
:siren: News Flash! :siren:

The camera is on the ground still recording as it displays a view of the carnage from the ground. The body of on the scene reporter biggs can be seen along with one of the SeeD instructors as a Tonberry King slowly shambles its way off the battlefield having cut a swath of destruction


Jen X - Quistis - Town aligned was killed during encounter 3!



You are Quistis

You are town aligned and win when you eliminate all threats to town.

If she chooses attack in an encounter, Quistis can randomly see another player who chose attack.


The encounter was a defeat.

Scum have received a boon.

It is now day 4!

votefinder
Jul 6, 2010

scoop scoop
Votecount for Day 4



Not Voting (10): A Sometimes Food, Amnistar, chaoslord, flerp, Jen X, MY INEVITABLE DEBT, Sandwolf, Squiggly, Toalpaz, xopods

With 10 alive, it's 6 votes to execute. The current deadline is March 27th, 2020 at 11 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 2 days, 7 hours.

Starting day 2 if you don't have more posts than me by the end of the day there will be anti lurker mechanics activated.

A Sometimes Food
Dec 8, 2010

Anyone else have their attack blocked by an "unknown force"?

flerp
Feb 25, 2014
my attack went thru

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
I can confirm my attack went through too.

This loving sucks. I was going to push Jen today too so apparently I don't know poo poo. Scum are probably lurkers like CL or ASF. Lets kill CL. Probably.

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


I trapped the draw stack, who didn’t attack

Jen X
Sep 29, 2014

To bring light to the darkness, whether that darkness be ignorance, injustice, apathy, or stagnation.
:ghost: I told you I had a whip! Bye friendssssss :ghost:

Amnistar
Nov 6, 2008

I am a wizard, not a poet.
I attacked.

xopods
Oct 26, 2010

I actually tried to do something other than attack, but received the result that I "successfully attacked," so I guess someone did some kind of switcheroo effect on me.

I may as well claim at this point, as we're doomed anyway. I have a decent role but unfortunately failed to do anything useful with it.

I'm basically an action cop. Instead of doing any of the normal things (draw, attack, etc.) I can watch someone and see what they do.

N1, I RNGed like I told everyone to and got "don't attack," so I investigated Hal. He attacked. Unfortunately, that info was totally useless because he died.

N2, I investigated Jen because we couldn't attack anyway. D2, she had said she had ~reasons~ to believe Grandi was Town. I was watching her to see if I could get info to either confirm her power to everyone later or else catch her in a lie if she was Scum. However, she Drew.

That's why D3 I was asking her about her read on Grandi, trying to see if she'd imply she'd used her action again N2 in which case I could catch her in a lie. But she didn't claim to have done anything like that, and now she's dead and confirmed Town.

N3, I figured that just winning an encounter wasn't going to save this game, so I'd take one more try, see if I could catch Scum doing the NK. I picked Squiggly for no very particular reason other than WIFOM... just intuitively I guessed that he or M.I.D. were people I'd suggest for the NK if they were on my scumteam, so I picked randomly between them.

But like I said, it looks like I was forced to attack instead. Unless CapPig made a mistake or something. There was no flavor or other message accompanying my result to suggest someone changed my action, but I double-checked my sent messages to make I'd said "investigate Squiggly" and yeah, that's what I submitted, so. :shrug:

flerp
Feb 25, 2014
god i really hope that this isnt a game where it was just town slapfighting w/ each other while scum just coasted behind and let us kill ourselves :(

flerp
Feb 25, 2014
also, i agree with xopods and ill claim as well

im cid, instead of taking a regular night action, i can give an item to somebody else. the item i give is based on the encounter. i dont know what the item does.

n1 i attacked because people seemed pretty deadset on drawing and i wanted to try and not give scum a benefit. i rly did want to use my ability but also i didnt want to throw the game but it looks like other people didnt think the same way. my action was successful
n2 i gave an item to clord. honestly, this was a super tough choice and i rly didnt have any strong town reads on anyone at this point so i went for the, what i think was, the lower risk of giving an item to a kinda lurky but seemed like they were okay player. at this rate, i probably did give an item to scum :( . my action was successful
n3 i attacked and was successful like i stated earlier

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


Why in the world did you give slord an item?

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


##vote flerp

You’re a scum inventor aren’t yoooou?

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


argh no that may be confirmation bias

##unvote

xopods
Oct 26, 2010

Hopefully this goes without saying, but we shouldn't be dropping votes today that we're not extremely committed to, because if there's a single Town-on-Town vote and the Scum can all get themselves online at the same time, they can coordinate a turbo hammer and win. Assuming there are four of them.

I'm trying to think if there's a good strategic plan at this point to try to get ourselves coordinated. I'm thinking maybe we should do a reverse vote... try to agree who we think is the most likely to be Town* and let them pick someone to lunch. Seems to me that's less likely to let the Scum force us to lunch Town than doing things the normal way.

* other than yourself, obviously

I'd probably have to go with Amni or Sandwolf. Probably Sandwolf though I know that'd be an unpopular pick with those who still think his power is scummy.

flerp
Feb 25, 2014

Sandwolf posted:

Why in the world did you give slord an item?

like i said, i had (and still pretty have) pretty much nobody in a town category. i gave clord it because he seemed like the least likely for it to backfire, and i wasnt sure about drawing because i didnt trust you or some other scum to block drawing again. also, the item i gave is one that (based on its name) wouldnt be that great for scum so it seemed at least relatively low risk

but yeah at this point in the game, i probably hosed up

Amnistar
Nov 6, 2008

I am a wizard, not a poet.
We're claiming?

I am a draw master. No mater what action I take, I also take a draw action.

Was intending to be a power-role granter via draw mechanics. Gave Inf the spell yesterday.

Can confirm that sandwolf did indeed block the draw overnight.


If I had to pick a town-mayor I'd pick sandwolf.

xopods
Oct 26, 2010

xopods posted:

I'm trying to think if there's a good strategic plan at this point to try to get ourselves coordinated. I'm thinking maybe we should do a reverse vote... try to agree who we think is the most likely to be Town* and let them pick someone to lunch. Seems to me that's less likely to let the Scum force us to lunch Town than doing things the normal way.

Actually maybe this is a stupid plan cause it gives us two chances to lose immediately, either by picking Scum and having them tell us to kill a Townie, or by picking Town and having them guess wrong. I dunno if that's worse than our odds of successfully getting five Townies to all vote the same Scum without any wrong votes in the process though.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

Sandwolf posted:

argh no that may be confirmation bias

##unvote

xopods posted:

Actually maybe this is a stupid plan cause it gives us two chances to lose immediately, either by picking Scum and having them tell us to kill a Townie, or by picking Town and having them guess wrong. I dunno if that's worse than our odds of successfully getting five Townies to all vote the same Scum without any wrong votes in the process though.

:ironicat:

Yeah lets try and not immediately play in the most anti-town way we can right at the start of the day.

xopods posted:

N3, I figured that just winning an encounter wasn't going to save this game, so I'd take one more try, see if I could catch Scum doing the NK. I picked Squiggly for no very particular reason other than WIFOM... just intuitively I guessed that he or M.I.D. were people I'd suggest for the NK if they were on my scumteam, so I picked randomly between them.

So do you have a scum read of Squiggly and or MID?

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


hey if you picked me as town mayor I would not want it no way in hell am I carrying that pressure lol

xopods
Oct 26, 2010

Toalpaz posted:

So do you have a scum read of Squiggly and or MID?

I have a not-"not Scum" read on them. I don't go too deep into WIFOM thinking when it comes to voting, but I think you kinda have to do it when it comes to night actions. Scum usually aren't going to pick someone to do the NK that one or more Townies have been going on about...

At this point everyone's had some heat on them at some point, but e.g. ASF's come up enough that I don't think I'd pick him to kill if we were Scum together. And I'm leaning Town enough on Amni and Sand that I'm not going to investigate them...

So MID and Squiggly were the people who seemed just the right amount scummy. You too, though there was a reason I decided they were the better options. I can't remember now.

xopods
Oct 26, 2010

Oh that was it, I was thinking at the time that Squiggly has both completely ignored ASF all game and was explicitly refusing to vote flerp around deadline yesterday, so there was a bigger potential upside to catching him as Scum than Toal or MID, as it would corroborate my reads on those two.

Not that it's super relevant now since I failed to see what he did at all, but that was my thinking last night.

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MY INEVITABLE DEBT
Apr 21, 2011
I am lonely and spend most of my time on 4Chan talking about the superiority of BBC porn.
im starting to feel the xopods scum. we've been lead into wrong decision after wrong decision and he's been putting out the absolute maximum amount of information. so basically might just go through xopods posts and look for who he's consistently lukewarm on.

also, sandwolf's ability is still NOTHING like any town ability anyone has had? still pretty happy to just smoke them because of n1.

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