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| Maxime Vachier-Lagrave |
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2 | 13.33% |
| Ding Liren |
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8 | 53.33% |
| Anish Giri |
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0 | 0% |
| Sasha Grischuk |
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1 | 6.67% |
| Kirill Alekseenko |
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0 | 0% |
| Ian Nepomniatchni |
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2 | 13.33% |
| Wang Hao |
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0 | 0% |
| Fabiano Caruana |
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2 | 13.33% |
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Hand Knit posted:And with that, Vachier-Lagrave is the tournament leader.
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Mar 25, 2020 19:49
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Um I think they just suspended Candidates. e: https://www.fide.com/news/462 quote:Today, the government of the Russian Federation announced that starting March 27, 2020, Russia interrupts air traffic with other countries without indicating any time frames.
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Mar 26, 2020 10:16
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welp
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Mar 26, 2020 11:58
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dammit this was helping me get through the mornings. 
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Mar 26, 2020 12:57
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Poor Radjabov.
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Mar 26, 2020 14:14
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Radjabov's being interviewed on the chess.com Twitch channel now if anyone's interested.
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Mar 26, 2020 14:19
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Radjabov got hosed.
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Mar 26, 2020 14:25
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Sub Par posted:Radjabov got hosed. He did. Unfortunately there's not a good way to fix it this cycle. I'd be sympathetic to giving him an automatic makeup Candidates berth in 2022, but do you take away the WC slot and FIDE just has to swallow the loss of money from being less attractive to organizers, take away one of FIDE's own precious tournament slot ways to qualify, or make it a 9 man tournament in 2022? I would think FIDE would do the clumsiest possible thing and that'd be 9 man Candidates.
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Mar 26, 2020 14:30
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Mukaikubo posted:He did. Unfortunately there's not a good way to fix it this cycle. I'd be sympathetic to giving him an automatic makeup Candidates berth in 2022, but do you take away the WC slot and FIDE just has to swallow the loss of money from being less attractive to organizers, take away one of FIDE's own precious tournament slot ways to qualify, or make it a 9 man tournament in 2022? I would think FIDE would do the clumsiest possible thing and that'd be 9 man Candidates. They could either openly or secretly guarantee him the wildcard slot if he doesn't qualify through the regular tournament season.
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Mar 26, 2020 14:37
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Mukaikubo posted:He did. Unfortunately there's not a good way to fix it this cycle. I'd be sympathetic to giving him an automatic makeup Candidates berth in 2022, but do you take away the WC slot and FIDE just has to swallow the loss of money from being less attractive to organizers, take away one of FIDE's own precious tournament slot ways to qualify, or make it a 9 man tournament in 2022? I would think FIDE would do the clumsiest possible thing and that'd be 9 man Candidates. Agreed. The second they started the tournament, it would be more unfair to the other players than Radjabov to cancel it or restart it or whatever. I don't know what would be "fair" for 2022 really. As you say, a 9 person candidates feels like the weirdest outcome so that is probably what they will do. FIDE really screwed this up, it's embarrasing. Radjabov at least seems pretty calm and realistic in this interview. I just feel bad for him. I also feel bad for Nepo and MVL who seemed to be playing well and now abruptly have to stop. Edit: Wow, did Magnus really suggest that Radjabov was dropping because he was afraid/didn't really want to play? That's pretty douchey. Sub Par fucked around with this message at 14:44 on Mar 26, 2020 |
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Mar 26, 2020 14:38
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Sub Par posted:Edit: Wow, did Magnus really suggest that Radjabov was dropping because he was afraid/didn't really want to play? That's pretty douchey. Radjabov himself, after qualifying, said he doesn't know yet whether he'll want to play at the candidates or not, so that's not a completely unfair suggestion.
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Mar 26, 2020 18:09
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jvilmi posted:Radjabov himself, after qualifying, said he doesn't know yet whether he'll want to play at the candidates or not, so that's not a completely unfair suggestion. I hadn't seen that. I saw an interview he gave right after winning the World Cup where he specifically mentioned he planned to start preparing for the Candidates. Edit: Ok I found the interview you're talking about. I still think the speculation on Magnus' part is poor form. Sub Par fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Mar 26, 2020 |
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Mar 26, 2020 18:52
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jvilmi posted:Radjabov himself, after qualifying, said he doesn't know yet whether he'll want to play at the candidates or not, so that's not a completely unfair suggestion. I mean, I can see how people would think that, but he went as far as revealing the team of seconds he assembled for Candidates (incl. Karjakin and Dominguez) so it's clear he was taking it seriously after that one interview done flush in the emotions after a big tournament. I'm still on board with "2020 sucks but can't be fixed, so here, have a golden ticket into 2022"
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Mar 26, 2020 19:52
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Sub Par posted:Radjabov got hosed. Hoist by his own racism. Hand Knit fucked around with this message at 14:55 on Mar 27, 2020 |
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Mar 27, 2020 13:37
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So what's left now? Australian rugby league? Bloody virus...
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Mar 27, 2020 19:09
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Hand Knit posted:Hoist by his own racism. I wasn't following Radjabov's withdrawal that closely. Did he drop out specifically because Ding and Wang are from China? If it was just out of a general concern over the coronavirus, I would say that he was entirely vindicated in that decision. As much as I enjoyed following the first seven rounds, the event should never have been held on schedule.
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Mar 27, 2020 20:59
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Carbolic posted:I wasn't following Radjabov's withdrawal that closely. Did he drop out specifically because Ding and Wang are from China? If it was just out of a general concern over the coronavirus, I would say that he was entirely vindicated in that decision. As much as I enjoyed following the first seven rounds, the event should never have been held on schedule. He dropped out because Wang wasn't quarantined. Ding was quarantined because actually came from China. Wang came from Japan, but apparently being ethnically Chinese was enough to spook Radjabov into withdrawing. This was particularly funny when Caruana arrived from I think New York on the 12th, but of course was not quarantined.
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Mar 27, 2020 22:13
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Flayer posted:So what's left now? Australian rugby league? Bloody virus... NRL postponed their season earlier this week. Supposely there is hockey from Belarus but otherwise the world has stopped every sport (Pro Wrestling while entertaining is not a sport).
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Mar 27, 2020 23:04
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Singling out Wang like that is part of the reason I'm not enamoured with this "Radjabov was the real hero all along!!" -narrative going on now. Both Chinese players got treated like crap for being Chinese (Ding with the two week isolation and quarantine, Wang with having to play without his team) and both of them went on with it despite of that, but hey, we've got a hero here, the guy who didn't know whether he wanted to participate to begin with who also now withdrew because this one particular Chinese person is there or something. Everyone is Captain Hindsight now, me included, but I don't see how Radjabov is particularly deserving of anyhing here. edit: Anish Giri has solved the problem https://twitter.com/anishgiri/status/1243803228363423744 jvilmi fucked around with this message at 12:13 on Mar 28, 2020 |
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Mar 27, 2020 23:13
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Candidates has been announced to resume November 1st in Yekaterinburg, with Tblisi as the backup venue. I'll believe it when I see it. Still shocked that Ding is at -2.
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Sep 17, 2020 16:34
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Carbolic posted:Candidates has been announced to resume November 1st in Yekaterinburg, with Tblisi as the backup venue. I'll believe it when I see it. Make that spring 2021.
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Oct 16, 2020 20:50
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Unfortunate that that has to be the case with a successful tournament in Norway, but if that's what it is then that's what it is.
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Oct 17, 2020 00:22
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This is finally back Monday.  All times 7am EST Rounds 8-10 April 19-21 Rounds 11-12 April 23-24 Rounds 13-14 April 26-27 Tie breaks April 28
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Apr 18, 2021 00:37
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sweet jesus, what a wait
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Apr 18, 2021 00:43
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Looks like we have at least one interesting game, a poisoned pawn Najdorf between Caruana and Vachier-Lagrave. Caruana has an exchange for two pawns, Vachier's position looks rough, and there's an hour difference on the clock.
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Apr 19, 2021 13:58
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Hand Knit posted:there's an hour difference on the clock. I tuned in a little while ago and thought it was bold of FIDE to allow berserk mode in a classical OTB tournament.
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Apr 19, 2021 14:06
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Looks like Caruana has managed to win the Rook+P vs Knight+P endgame vs Maxim. A couple of inaccuracies but even Magnus was struggling with it while looking at tablebases. Still needs to be converted.
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Apr 19, 2021 18:15
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Flayer posted:Looks like Caruana has managed to win the Rook+P vs Knight+P endgame vs Maxim. A couple of inaccuracies but even Magnus was struggling with it while looking at tablebases. It looks like Vachier just didn't know the fortress idea with the knight on g7, because he managed to set it up but never actually played Ng7. Meanwhile, it looks like Alekseenko has managed to generate something against Grischuk. It looks like Grischuk maybe thought he was safer than he actually was and hosed around a little too hard trying to see if Alekseenko would make a mistake.
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Apr 19, 2021 18:18
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Caruana playing a move that leads Carlsen to say "this goes against the way I understand chess. All four games look pretty dynamic to start. Ding has sacrificed a piece out of the opening against Vachier-Lagrave.
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Apr 20, 2021 13:10
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Ding has a tremendous advantage, so it looks like it might take two rounds from Vachier Lagrave to go from co-lead back to equal. Also Grischuk has made an... ambitious exchange sacrifice against Nepomniachtchi which makes me think that last round's game is weighing on his mind. Very good games today. e: As I say that, Ding chooses the completely wrong plan and has punted most of his advantage. Hand Knit fucked around with this message at 15:16 on Apr 20, 2021 |
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Apr 20, 2021 15:08
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This is looking like it could be the day where candidates more or less wraps up. There are still three rounds left, but Nepomniatchi is cruising to an easy draw against Caruana, and the other two people chasing him (already a full point back), Giri and Vachier-Lagrave, are both in trouble in their games.
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Apr 23, 2021 14:19
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Hand Knit posted:This is looking like it could be the day where candidates more or less wraps up. There are still three rounds left, but Nepomniatchi is cruising to an easy draw against Caruana, and the other two people chasing him (already a full point back), Giri and Vachier-Lagrave, are both in trouble in their games. This is great news because Nepo-Carlsen is by far the matchup I would be most excited for.
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Apr 23, 2021 14:36
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vyelkin posted:This is great news because Nepo-Carlsen is by far the matchup I would be most excited for. Looks like Ding self-destructed against Giri so we've got a tournament yet.
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Apr 23, 2021 15:05
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I’m rooting for Fabi but he has his work cut out for him now
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Apr 23, 2021 15:54
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Hand Knit posted:Looks like Ding self-destructed against Giri so we've got a tournament yet. Boy were we all wrong in our "pick the winner" poll itt
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Apr 23, 2021 16:26
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Giri in very good shape with the black pieces against Caruana. This would be a very big win for him, obviously, especially as Nepomniachtchi has a firm advantage over Wang Hao. Also the opening in Wang-Nepomniachtchi looked incredibly familiar around move 34. This was played recently, right? Does anyone remember the game?
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Apr 24, 2021 15:27
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Sad for Fabi, but at least Giri is making it an exciting finish!
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Apr 24, 2021 16:49
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Why did Wang resign against Nepo? Looks fairly drawish at the end of the game albeit with White forced to defend.
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Apr 25, 2021 01:16
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Looks like Giri is getting murdered by Grischuk, so Nepomniachtchi will clinch with a draw. And Nepomniachtchi's position looks just about unlosable.
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Apr 26, 2021 15:31
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Carlsen vs Nepo it is. Giri just straight blundered with f5 getting frustrated in a closed position. I'm surprised to see a defeat from that type of scenario in a top level tournament like this, especially considering Giri had to avoid defeat to have any chance of winning the tournament. Of course considering Nepo's superior head-to-head winning a tie-break he was almost virtually assured to win the tournament going into the penultimate round anyway regardless of anything Giri did.
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Apr 26, 2021 17:47
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