[Mafia] Dark Hospital III

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Grandicap: Feb 8, 2006

Retro Futurist posted:

Tbh the big thing stopping me from calling him scum is that I think scum have a role cop which is why they killed hum. A role cop having scum team would not do that

Killed him N1 because of a rolecop?

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Mithross: Apr 27, 2011; Intelligent and bright, they explored a world that was new and strange to them. They liked it, they thought - a whole world just for them! They were dimly aware that a God had created them, was watching them; they called out to him, thanking him in a chittering language, before running off.

Steak floated a theory earlier in the day that scum must have had a n0 rolecop to hit hum. It's possible but I don't think it's likely, I don't see Hum as such an odd kill that there has to be some other explanation.

# ? Mar 28, 2020 01:33

Mithross: Apr 27, 2011; Intelligent and bright, they explored a world that was new and strange to them. They liked it, they thought - a whole world just for them! They were dimly aware that a God had created them, was watching them; they called out to him, thanking him in a chittering language, before running off.

Speaking of steak he's been out of the thread for a really long time (for him).

# ? Mar 28, 2020 01:34

Opopanax: Aug 8, 2007; I HEX YE!!!

Grandicap posted:

Killed him N1 because of a rolecop?

Yeah sorry that post was a mess, I was holding an ice cream cone and trying to type around it.
I think it makes more sense that they had a role cop n0 and found out hum was the cop, which is why they killed him. Scum doing that and then this weird gambit the next day doesn't add up.
The only reason to do it as a gambit is to make yuming claim a pr and they could just role cop her tonight if that's the case.

# ? Mar 28, 2020 01:35

Opopanax: Aug 8, 2007; I HEX YE!!!

Of course it's also possible there was no role cop and they just got lucky, in which case inf could be scum pulling something, which is why I'm not ruling it out yet

# ? Mar 28, 2020 01:36

Grandicap: Feb 8, 2006

I forgot there was a N0.

# ? Mar 28, 2020 01:49

Grandicap: Feb 8, 2006

Wait, if there was a N0, shouldn't Inf have 2 results?

# ? Mar 28, 2020 01:49

Mithross: Apr 27, 2011; Intelligent and bright, they explored a world that was new and strange to them. They liked it, they thought - a whole world just for them! They were dimly aware that a God had created them, was watching them; they called out to him, thanking him in a chittering language, before running off.

Deadbeat Dad posted:

I received all the n0 actions I needed, just in case anybody is wondering whether they needed to send one, I would have messaged you for it, so no worries.

...maybe? This seems to imply only some roles got a n0

# ? Mar 28, 2020 01:52

Grandicap: Feb 8, 2006

I mean, not having a doc doc n0 makes sense because there no kill, but not having an investigator investigate... I guess it's possible, but this sheds more doubt on Infs claim that I initially had.

# ? Mar 28, 2020 01:54

Mithross: Apr 27, 2011; Intelligent and bright, they explored a world that was new and strange to them. They liked it, they thought - a whole world just for them! They were dimly aware that a God had created them, was watching them; they called out to him, thanking him in a chittering language, before running off.

So here is my current tinfoil hat theory about this game. I skimmed over the last two Dark Hospital games and discovered that vote patterns were a major part of the SKs role. In the first two games the SK had an assistant, and the SK could only kill players who were visited by the assistant or who had votes on the assistant when the assistant is lunched. In this game RF called a thunderdome d1.

# ? Mar 28, 2020 02:07

Opopanax: Aug 8, 2007; I HEX YE!!!

Inf probably made everything up, but that doesn't say anything about his alignment

# ? Mar 28, 2020 02:08

Somberbrero: Feb 14, 2009; ꜱʜʀɪᴍᴘ?

i've rarely used a n0, but when i did i only gave a few roles n0 actions. i think you're reading way too much into things Grandi, the inf thing will probably take care of itself in time. if inf is alive late game he's probably scum, if he's town scum will probably kill him.

# ? Mar 28, 2020 03:42

Mr. Steak: May 9, 2013; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

still catching up from mid page 17, but.... one comment on yuming.

yuming posted:

I did not use a night action last night.

...followed by refusing to claim whether or not she's vt.

i 100% agree with whoever theorized this is a scum leaving the door open for a future action or what have you.

yes, i understand why all vanilla towns shouldn't claim, and why a single vt should be hesitant to outright claim their role. but, i have a couple issues with yuming's stance here.

1) power roles claim vanilla town. it's not that hard. and that specific type of lie is overwhelmingly accepted by the community. hedging about doing so because you're too scared of getting caught in a lie later is entirely based on scummy motivations.

2) you basically already claimed vt when you said you didn't use an action. the only time a town wouldnt use their action on n1 is if they have limited shots, or some unlikely restriction. in either of those cases, claiming vanilla town is even less of a lie, because you're already vanilla town some/most of the time. so point 1 applies doubly hard.

i dont even know what to make of infi's results, but based solely on yuming's response to questioning, she's scum

##vote yuming

# ? Mar 28, 2020 04:43

Somberbrero: Feb 14, 2009; ꜱʜʀɪᴍᴘ?

c'mon steak

# ? Mar 28, 2020 04:53

Opopanax: Aug 8, 2007; I HEX YE!!!

Mr. Steak posted:

still catching up from mid page 17, but.... one comment on yuming.

...followed by refusing to claim whether or not she's vt.

i 100% agree with whoever theorized this is a scum leaving the door open for a future action or what have you.

yes, i understand why all vanilla towns shouldn't claim, and why a single vt should be hesitant to outright claim their role. but, i have a couple issues with yuming's stance here.

1) power roles claim vanilla town. it's not that hard. and that specific type of lie is overwhelmingly accepted by the community. hedging about doing so because you're too scared of getting caught in a lie later is entirely based on scummy motivations.

2) you basically already claimed vt when you said you didn't use an action. the only time a town wouldnt use their action on n1 is if they have limited shots, or some unlikely restriction. in either of those cases, claiming vanilla town is even less of a lie, because you're already vanilla town some/most of the time. so point 1 applies doubly hard.

i dont even know what to make of infi's results, but based solely on yuming's response to questioning, she's scum

##vote yuming

Yeah no. Neither PRs nor VTs should claim to defend themselves from weird poo poo like this D2, and PRs should not pretend to be VT for I don�t even know what the reason would be here.
Regardless of yuming�s role and alignment, she handled that as well as she would have.

# ? Mar 28, 2020 05:07

Opopanax: Aug 8, 2007; I HEX YE!!!

Let�s say yuming is a town aligned hider who gets to decide to hide or not (random role I�m tossing out for the sake of explanation, don�t read into it). She claims VT due to inf posting what appears to be nonsense. Fast forward to lylo, she is still alive and claims her role as there was no kill that night. She is killed for lying and town loses.
It�s bad, steak

# ? Mar 28, 2020 05:09

Opopanax: Aug 8, 2007; I HEX YE!!!

And I mean you of all people know that and know whytown shouldn�t lie unless they�re very very good at it.

# ? Mar 28, 2020 05:10

Somberbrero: Feb 14, 2009; ꜱʜʀɪᴍᴘ?

What if ... ##vote Grandi

jk jk 😂😂🤣🙈... unless? 😳😳

# ? Mar 28, 2020 05:41

Grandicap: Feb 8, 2006

Somberbrero posted:

What if ... ##vote Grandi

jk jk 😂😂🤣🙈... unless? 😳😳

What? I mean, I understand why someone would vote me, but what is that stuff at the bottom?

# ? Mar 28, 2020 05:42

Somberbrero: Feb 14, 2009; ꜱʜʀɪᴍᴘ?