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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:I'm torn. Do I out PB on the top of the bread and Jam on the bottom or the other way around Live dangerously: put the PB on the bottom and the jam on the top, and then turn the sandwich upside down just before you eat it.
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On a lighter note, three roommates from Barcelona have been doing cool little songs about it all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd0cN9HZIK8
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I don't really understand the last page or so. Quarantineing New York is about the smartest thing you can do right now. Is there something I'm missing besides it's trump so it's bad?
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Nurge posted:I don't really understand the last page or so. Quarantineing New York is about the smartest thing you can do right now. Is there something I'm missing besides it's trump so it's bad? People spent a lot of time complaining about those fleeing NYC for other states and spreading the disease 
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Nurge posted:I don't really understand the last page or so. Quarantineing New York is about the smartest thing you can do right now. Is there something I'm missing besides it's trump so it's bad? He should also quarantine Florida. Everybody else besides the states he listed, which are essentially NY colonies, can probably skate by.
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Nurge posted:I don't really understand the last page or so. Quarantineing New York is about the smartest thing you can do right now. Is there something I'm missing besides it's trump so it's bad? Cuomo specifically asked for help and Trump say "Nah, you're asking for too much"
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Nurge posted:I don't really understand the last page or so. Quarantineing New York is about the smartest thing you can do right now. Is there something I'm missing besides it's trump so it's bad? I dunno quarantining an island with an infectious disease and not providing any additional medical support seem bad idea territory.
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Nurge posted:I don't really understand the last page or so. Quarantineing New York is about the smartest thing you can do right now. Is there something I'm missing besides it's trump so it's bad? You dont publicly announce a quarantine before you enact one because that just means everyone flees, making it pointless.
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Hollismason posted:I dunno quarantining an island with an infectious disease and not providing any additional medical support seem bad idea territory. Well if you put it that way, but I assume shipments of goods would continue as usual, and you would actually give them support. Quarantines on large cities has been happening worldwide and it seems to be a decent idea to avoid overloading rural healthcare systems.
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https://twitter.com/TomNovelly/status/1243960846625234946
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Telsa Cola posted:You dont publicly announce a quarantine before you enact one because that just means everyone flees, making it pointless. Seemed to work fine in Finland just today when Uusimaa was quarantined from the rest of Finland, which was well known beforehand.
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Andrast posted:Seemed to work fine in Finland just today when Uusimaa was quarantined from the rest of Finland, which was well known beforehand. Finnish citizens are handling this poo poo way differently and theres already different cultural norms Re: distancing that im not sure thats a fair comparison.
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You clearly can't fault "Folly Beach" for false advertising, at least.
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Clyburn's Folly Beach
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Apparently it’s because our dipshit maga chud AG said the orders were unconstitutional and unenforceable.
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Telsa Cola posted:Finnish citizens are handling this poo poo way differently and theres already different cultural norms Re: distancing that im not sure thats a fair comparison. Sounds like it's a good time for Americans to learn some new cultural norms
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Fallom posted:Sounds like it's a good time for Americans to learn some new cultural norms Yup, but not gonna happen unless this ends up with culturally traumatizing amounts of death.
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Supposedly people trying to "flee" NYC is causing a lot of Long Island and also surrounding states to have bigger outbreaks. I can't tell how true that is. Maybe people are going to live with family out of state. Maybe richer people are going to their summer homes in eastern Long Island and bringing the virus with them - where by the way, hospital capacity is much lower. But I don't think the average person living in NYC has much opportunity or choice to do anything other than stay put, but I could be wrong. Quarantining Manhattan and allowing travel out only for necessary things might help? But only if enough supplies are getting in, otherwise the island is going to resemble that Batman movie a few days in.
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Mar 28, 2020 19:42
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Nurge posted:I don't really understand the last page or so. Quarantineing New York is about the smartest thing you can do right now. Is there something I'm missing besides it's trump so it's bad? Putting in place travel restrictions on a regional or even national scale might be helpful. Doing it on a county-by-county scale, in an explicitly partisan way, without any local buy-in, is just blatantly stupid and ineffective. Republicans are just continuing to ignore all the experts.
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Conte Is still speaking, but the gist of it is that Italy has just launched a series of maneuvers (that should all be active before April 15th) for €25 billions to support people affected by covid-19 - through additional economic support to people who have lost their jobs, food stamps, medical care expenses, dole, etc. €4.5 billions have already been sent to the municipalities to start.
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LifeLynx posted:Supposedly people trying to "flee" NYC is causing a lot of Long Island and also surrounding states to have bigger outbreaks. I can't tell how true that is. Maybe people are going to live with family out of state. Maybe richer people are going to their summer homes in eastern Long Island and bringing the virus with them - where by the way, hospital capacity is much lower. But I don't think the average person living in NYC has much opportunity or choice to do anything other than stay put, but I could be wrong. Yeah, in the UK there were absolutely rich people fleeing from cities to their second homes in nice rural areas (that don't have the infrastructure to support them living there or getting ill there in the current situation) since with hotels closing, there's nowhere for people to go who don't already have somewhere nice to run to.
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how precisely does he plan to quarantine 8.5 million people and how loving illegal would it be
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Dapper_Swindler posted:he sounds like he is just talking out his rear end and hoping it works. Have you never heard trump talk ever before this or?
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jet sanchEz posted:UK health minister says that less than 20 000 deaths from covid 19 would mean "we will have done very well" Maybe I'm missing something here, but that seems like it would be a pretty good bit of news? It's much less than some of the predictions that came out previously, and from what I've googled the UK averages like 17k deaths a year from the flu(and has had as much as 28k in a year in the last decade). I mean I don't know how political the UK's medical infrastructure has gotten either, but it's possible that's not an estimate, but rather expectation-setting?
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Unoriginal Name posted:how precisely does he plan to quarantine 8.5 million people i was of the understanding it was pretty illegal, but ianal.
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Nurge posted:I don't really understand the last page or so. Quarantineing New York is about the smartest thing you can do right now. Is there something I'm missing besides it's trump so it's bad? And probably making it worse by inciting New Yorkers to flee now. It's already spread everywhere so it's just useless at best. You need nationwide shelter in place instead (forbid all non-essential travel, close all non-essential shops, and unsafe businesses) to slow the spread the virus. Singling out New York is just Trump trying to deflect from his abject failure by stigmatising and punishing "New York liberals"
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Catfish Noodlin posted:Maybe I'm missing something here, but that seems like it would be a pretty good bit of news? It's much less than some of the predictions that came out previously, and from what I've googled the UK averages like 17k deaths a year from the flu(and has had as much as 28k in a year in the last decade). It's a massively optimistic estimate. The UK was extremely late in their response. 
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Deviant posted:i was of the understanding it was pretty illegal, but ianal. It's completely and explicitly legal. Governments have been quarantining people since forever. Maintaining public health and safety is one of the fundamental roles of government. I have no idea where this idea is coming from that it's somehow illegal.
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CSM posted:It's further loving over New York while not actually dealing with the problem. It's the biggest concentration of infected people in the country no? Quarantining it seems completely sensible to me to slow the rate of spread, and like I said before preventing rural healthcare systems from getting overloaded with people loving off to wherever. This is the explanation for pretty much most western countries doing it, so again it seems like the best thing to do from where I'm standing. Isolating large cities from the rest of the country helps control the spread.
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Announcing a quarantine of New York was about the stupidest thing Trump's done, and boy howdy that's saying something.
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Deteriorata posted:It's completely and explicitly legal. Governments have been quarantining people since forever. Maintaining public health and safety is one of the fundamental roles of government. Is it legal for the federal government to do it rather than a state government? It may have historically happened but I’m not aware of a case.
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Nurge posted:It's the biggest concentration of infected people in the country no? Quarantining it seems completely sensible to me to slow the rate of spread, and like I said before preventing rural healthcare systems from getting overloaded with people loving off to wherever. This is the explanation for pretty much most western countries doing it, so again it seems like the best thing to do from where I'm standing. It has the exact opposite effect. It's what Italy did with Lombardy and it was a disaster. It's the strategy you follow when a virus hasn't spread yet. It's too late now. It's also a measure you don't talk about beforehand, or you render it useless.
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mod sassinator posted:It's also a great and prudent time to get used to an intermittent fasting lifestyle now. Eat once or twice a day, zero snacks inbetween meals. You'll feel so much happier and probably lose some weight and save money not buying snack foods anymore. Lean Gains is a great resource for fasting + HIT. lol "just stop enjoying food, embrace permanent gray austerity"
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CSM posted:People who want to flee New York will do so in the coming hours/days. With the added kicker that, you know, news of the quarantine were leaked to the press hours before it took place, instead of being tweeted by the President days ahead.
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CSM posted:People who want to flee New York will do so in the coming hours/days. I don't know. I'm not an epidomologist, but if most countries dealing with this poo poo are doing the same thing I'm going to have to actually assume that it's the right thing to do. I guess we'll see.
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Oh yeah I've been meaning to ask, those models that suggest "well maybe we can "open things up" for a few weeks and then clamp back down", are they taking into account the likelihood that a lot of cooped up people are going to rush to be around each other again and deliberately seek out as much human contact as they can before they're put back in time-out?
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Oh yeah I've been meaning to ask, those models that suggest "well maybe we can "open things up" for a few weeks and then clamp back down", are they taking into account the likelihood that a lot of cooped up people are going to rush to be around each other again and deliberately seek out as much human contact as they can before they're put back in time-out? Would you be eager to go lick all your friends right after hell virus lockdown was lifted? A few people would but I don't think that's most people. There'd be a ramp up over time.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Oh yeah I've been meaning to ask, those models that suggest "well maybe we can "open things up" for a few weeks and then clamp back down", are they taking into account the likelihood that a lot of cooped up people are going to rush to be around each other again and deliberately seek out as much human contact as they can before they're put back in time-out? They are probably assuming that safety measures like plexiglass walls for cashiers, reduced occupancy levels, and enforced distancing will remain in place. They’re perfectly sustainable measures so I don’t see why not. Personally, if I’m told to go back to work you can god drat bet I won’t be shaking anybody’s hand anymore.
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