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New Jack is often correct in his words and incorrect in his actions.
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Mar 29, 2020 01:35
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I just a got quick question in regards to the CTE from the Benoit episode. When they examined Benoit's brain, they talked about how much his brain had degenerated due to the CTE, but wouldn't decomposition have also played a part in some of the degradation between when he died and when they began to examine his brain? Is it just a matter of one rot differing from another?
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Mar 29, 2020 05:23
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I'm not smart enough to know all the details but I know CTE is detected from autopsy by looking for a specific kind of degeneration. So it'd look different from decomposition or something like damage from Alzheimer's.
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Mar 29, 2020 05:29
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Heckie Holmes posted:I just a got quick question in regards to the CTE from the Benoit episode. When they examined Benoit's brain, they talked about how much his brain had degenerated due to the CTE, but wouldn't decomposition have also played a part in some of the degradation between when he died and when they began to examine his brain? Is it just a matter of one rot differing from another? I think the mentioned it's the build up of tau proteins that is the sign of degeneration from CTE
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Mar 29, 2020 05:34
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LobsterMobster posted:I think the mentioned it's the build up of tau proteins that is the sign of degeneration from CTE Yea they showed the slides of his brain
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Mar 29, 2020 06:18
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I should note that while I don't doubt that Benoit's brain was hosed up, the slides shared publicly of his brain tissue bear noticeable similarities to the ones where Dr. Omalu zoomed in extra far to make more questionable brains look riddled with CTE. Compare them with what's laid out here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/sports/cte-bennet-omalu/ WWE has also long claimed that Omalu didn't keep any chain of custody records and that there's thus no scientifically certain proof that it was Chris Benoit's brain. I've pretty much given up on trying to determine if that's true. The lawyer from the WWE concussion lawsuits disputes this, citing Omalu's pathology report: https://wweconcussionlawsuitnews.com/memory-of-chris-benoit-cte-wrestler-mistreatment-haunt-mcmahon-wwe-legacy/
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Mar 29, 2020 07:37
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God I just watched all of the Benoit episodes. Jesus Christ poor loving Chavo, and David and Nancy's sister. GODDAMN POOR EVERYONE man.  Just the first part also being about Eddie as well and his troubles just.....man. I choked up again when they had the footage of them hugging each other in the ring. And the utter profound sadness Chris must have had when Eddie died. He did something so loving monstrous to his kid and wife.......gently caress man. Is it me or did Jericho sort of come off as just jaded about things? Just like in general. How he spoke and I guess general attitude.
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Mar 29, 2020 08:40
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Jiro posted:Is it me or did Jericho sort of come off as just jaded about things? Just like in general. How he spoke and I guess general attitude. I think he is generally tired of discussing it. He was not in WWE at the time that this happened and so he became the non-wwe guy to speak on shows. I remember him arguing with people about steroids, roid rage and wrestling causing people to be violent (kids imitating it). After 13 years, it has probably just become something that he can toss out some responses because that is all he has left. I listened to the Lapsed Fan podcast about Benoit. What were they talking about when it came to Nowinski and Omalu separating. They made it sound like Nowinski sold his soul to WWE afterwards while Bix just made it sound like Omalu was being shady.
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Mar 29, 2020 15:09
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Jiro posted:God I just watched all of the Benoit episodes. Jesus Christ poor loving Chavo, and David and Nancy's sister. GODDAMN POOR EVERYONE man. I think it would be hard not to be jaded at this point when you see a bunch of your friends die young over the course of 25 years or so.
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Mar 29, 2020 15:11
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What happened to New Jack's forehead?
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Mar 29, 2020 19:44
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punk rebel ecks posted:What happened to New Jack's forehead? Years of blading during matches
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Mar 29, 2020 19:47
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it happens mostly when you're wrestling every night and blading every night. the cuts are superficial and heal pretty quick usually without scarring but if you constantly re-open them you'll get scar tissue buildup and suddenly you can hold quarters in your forehead slots
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Mar 29, 2020 20:22
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bebaloorpabopalo posted:it happens mostly when you're wrestling every night and blading every night. the cuts are superficial and heal pretty quick usually without scarring but if you constantly re-open them you'll get scar tissue buildup and suddenly you can hold quarters in your forehead slots Abdullah the Butcher's grooves from blading are so deep he can wedge a poker chip in the groove and use his forehead muscles to pop the chip out
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Mar 29, 2020 20:27
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Bizarro Kanyon posted:I think he is generally tired of discussing it. He was not in WWE at the time that this happened and so he became the non-wwe guy to speak on shows. I remember him arguing with people about steroids, roid rage and wrestling causing people to be violent (kids imitating it). After 13 years, it has probably just become something that he can toss out some responses because that is all he has left.
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Mar 29, 2020 21:23
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Abdullah the Butcher's grooves from blading are so deep he can wedge a poker chip in the groove and use his forehead muscles to pop the chip out This is funny because New Jack hates Abdullah, mostly for right reasons, but also because he claims Abby's forehead isn't legit like his and is body modifications.
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Mar 30, 2020 06:14
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KungFu Grip posted:This is funny because New Jack hates Abdullah, mostly for right reasons, but also because he claims Abby's forehead isn't legit like his and is body modifications. lol
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Mar 30, 2020 06:53
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KungFu Grip posted:This is funny because New Jack hates Abdullah, mostly for right reasons, but also because he claims Abby's forehead isn't legit like his and is body modifications. I've seen maybe 5 Abby matches, and the only one I've seen where he didn't blade was him squashing someone.
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Mar 30, 2020 15:01
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Aye Doc posted:he stabbed a dude in the neck and back 9 times. please do not reduce it down to "Blading Gone Wrong." even if Lane went to New Jack before the match and said "hey man, can you blade me up a little in here?" how the gently caress do you get from that to New Jack stabbing him repeatedly asking new jack to blade you up a little is like asking a wild animal to just maul you a little. it is probably one of the dumbest things you can do, on this planet earth, as a human being. this probably should have been clear after the FIRST goddamn time he responded to a dude asking him to blade him by going  and stabbing him nearly to death in the ring.e: like, you'd think "do not loving ask new jack to blade you" would be one of those things that's just sort of obvious. like i dunno. clearly nothing that's said about him is wrong, but... this is a business with a lot of completely unmanageable dangers who'll gently caress you up for almost literally no reason, because wrestling tends to attract insane people. someone who's a manageable danger, where you can do very obvious things to prevent him from going psycho, seems at the bare minimum distinct from that, if not necessarily better in the long run. i think we're more on the same page than not, frankly, and i'm just a bit more cynical about it. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Mar 30, 2020 23:05
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punk rebel ecks posted:What happened to New Jack's forehead? Same thing that happened to Abdullah the Butcher's head. It's easy to tell when a wrestler is part of the hardcore wrestling scene because their craniums look like topographic maps of the planet Mars.
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Mar 31, 2020 04:55
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:i think we're more on the same page than not, frankly, and i'm just a bit more cynical about it. I'm not going to say you're wrong. I just feel like "will definitely not stab the poo poo out of you" should have been the bare minimum by the mid-nineties.
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Mar 31, 2020 05:38
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Macrame_God posted:Same thing that happened to Abdullah the Butcher's head. It's easy to tell when a wrestler is part of the hardcore wrestling scene because their craniums look like topographic maps of the planet Mars. That, plus like 80% of lucha brawlers working into their 60s
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Mar 31, 2020 19:18
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Let me know if anyone else remembers hearing this story from a wrestler on a podcast. I forget who, but someone was saying they had a match booked against Gypsy Joe. So the wrestler walks into the locker room that night and he sees this dude who is like 60 years old. And the other wrestlers backstage tell him "Hey this Gypsy Joe dude used to be popular, but just take it real easy on him. He's an old man now." So the wrestler throws the weakest punch ever, and Joe hits him back with a wallop. And Joe is throwing crazy stiff chops, and slowly the wrestler realized he was getting ribbed and that Gypsy Joe was a crazy old dude, and that match just turns into this super rough brawl with two dudes beating the poo poo out of each other. And if I remember, the wrestler got the joke and found it funny and was down to have that match so it was cool. I don't remember him linking it to the New Jack incident, but is there a chance someone thought it would be a good idea to play a prank on New Jack and didn't smarten him up to what Gypsy Joe was like?
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Mar 31, 2020 20:37
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for a realistic effect, you need to have this playing through the New Jack match footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8sDp65dyeA&t=82s
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Apr 1, 2020 03:01
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So is the new episode going to up be n Vice's webstie at 10pm or on network TV?
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Apr 1, 2020 03:48
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punk rebel ecks posted:So is the new episode going to up be n Vice's webstie at 10pm or on network TV? It's airing on Vice TV right now. Not sure if its going up on the site or their youtube channel though.
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Apr 1, 2020 04:00
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Finished the episode. So...is New Jack in kayfabe or is he a real life sociopath? His logic works like a wife beater.
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Apr 1, 2020 06:06
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Considering the Benoit 2-parter we got, watching the New Jack episode was a breath of fresh air. Like I know it’s morbid and all but I could not stop laughing during the first 10-15 min with the SMW promos Even the part about Vic Grimes had a bit of dark humor behind it https://streamable.com/1ftgy
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Apr 1, 2020 07:46
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This episode was so funny, yet absolutely horrifying. I felt sorry for all those wrestlers who got hosed up by Jack UNTIL the reveal that most of them willingly got back in the ring with him
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Apr 1, 2020 13:16
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Agreed, a hosed up but at least somewhat lighter episode. BFA next week should be fun as well, then I assume they'll follow it with Owen Hart to bring us all back to reality.
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Apr 1, 2020 15:28
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Ganso Bomb posted:Agreed, a hosed up but at least somewhat lighter episode. BFA next week should be fun as well, then I assume they'll follow it with Owen Hart to bring us all back to reality. Owens the last episode of this series from all the reports i read.
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Apr 1, 2020 15:41
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punk rebel ecks posted:Finished the episode. new jack is mostly gimmick he said he was going to kill bruce mitchell and then when they met he didn't do anything
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Apr 1, 2020 15:45
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Smoking Crow posted:new jack is mostly gimmick So why does he do all these assaults then?
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Apr 1, 2020 16:24
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not sure the source, but wikipedia has jimmy snuka the week after BFA, and dino bravo the week after that
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Apr 1, 2020 16:53
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punk rebel ecks posted:So why does he do all these assaults then? Because he's crazy
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Apr 1, 2020 17:19
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it's legitimately this https://twitter.com/HulkHogan/status/125437560418865152?s=20
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Apr 1, 2020 17:21
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punk rebel ecks posted:So why does he do all these assaults then? The common denominator seems to be Jack, who is already kind of a sociopath, getting super coked up before shooting on people.
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Apr 1, 2020 17:23
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Yeah, Jack says everything he does is an attempted murder when he really only has like 4 or 5 attempted murders. He's working but also he has tried to kill people. I still weirdly like him? He's really loving complicated and a good example of how complicated people can be.
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Apr 1, 2020 17:26
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CombineThresher posted:The common denominator seems to be Jack, who is already kind of a sociopath, getting super coked up before shooting on people. Makes sense. I just wonder how legit his no remorse stuff is. Smoking Crow posted:it's legitimately this ... what? Gumball Gumption posted:Yeah, Jack says everything he does is an attempted murder when he really only has like 4 or 5 attempted murders. He's working but also he has tried to kill people. I still weirdly like him? He's really loving complicated and a good example of how complicated people can be.
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Apr 1, 2020 17:32
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punk rebel ecks posted:Makes sense. I just wonder how legit his no remorse stuff is. jack is crazy and his character is crazy, so he purposefully does crazy things to further his character some of which are illegal. does this mean he's actually crazy? yes yes it does
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Apr 1, 2020 17:35
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It seems for all the world like it's one part He's Working, one part blackout anger problem
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