Resident Evil Megathread 2: Nemesis? More like Memesis

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Party Boat: Nov 1, 2007; where did that other dog come from

who is he

DMC4 got lurked, thanks for being so generous in any case though!

# ? Mar 29, 2020 15:57

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# ? Apr 19, 2024 00:53

Neo Rasa: Mar 8, 2007; Everyone should play DUKE games.

veni veni veni posted:

I don't have anything to add to this, but it sums up why I can't stand RE6 pretty nicely. it really is just completely mindless. RE has gone through all sorts of changes and iterations over the years, but I've never felt less engaged with the series than RE6.

Yeah we're sticking with it for now but I don't see it actually even being completed. I have to lol at NEO UMBRELLA though. Remember in RE1 when Umbrella was just some random evil corporation Wesker was betraying? Then in RE4 he wanted to re-form Umbrella. Later other folks re-form Umbrella as good guys now in RE7, some other people decide they want to call their evil organization NEO UMBRELLA in RE6? Like who were the conctractors/permitters/etc. that let them build a massive skyscraper with an Umbrella logo in the lobby after all the poo poo that went down in the setting by then :laffo:

Neither of us care about trophies as far as earning them goes, but it's always fascinating to us to look at the rarity of some of them, how many people completed the game or not past a certain point and stuff like that. I think it's notable that like a large majority of RE6 players bailed after finishing Leon/Helena's campaign lol

The Question IRL posted:

That must have been a thing in games in the mid 90�s. I remember reading the ingame files for Metal Gear Solid and they talked about Solid Snake being of British and Japanese descent, I think.

A lot of comics in general too, I think a lot of nerd stuff at that point optimistically was like "it's the near-ish future/a sci-fi setting, racism is over now therefore multi-ethnic and multiracial people are the norm as main characters." Marvel went in hard for that when they launched their 2099 comics, it was pretty cool honestly.

Wanderer posted:

With RE in particular, it's because the games are extensively based on American movies. Shinji Mikami is an enormous film geek, so as ImpAtom noted, the first few games are heavily inspired by the original Romero "Dead Trilogy," and RE4 has the same basic cinematography as a Lucio Fulci zombie flick. There's actually a sequence in Code Veronica that's basically a shot-for-shot remake of a scene from Return of the Living Dead III.

Later creators on the series have apparently felt real comfortable continuing that legacy of film swipes. The first Revelations couldn't be more obviously inspired by Cameron's The Abyss, the Lucas sequences in RE7 are straight out of the Saw movies, the first hour of RE5 is based heavily off of Black Hawk Down, etc.

Something I love about the series I posted about earlier is how RE1 specifically is much much more inspired by Italian horror flicks that made the video nasty list, and how some aspects of those movies still survive and are major parts of the canon like the bad guys being basically nobility-level eugenicists with ultra decadent handlings, and stuff like the lighting especially. REmake doubles down on this with the lighting made to even more emphasize stuff like Anthropophagus but also the general aesthetic you had in those movies. It was the result of them keeping a room dark and just putting a spotlight in a corner so you didnt' realize they were filming in an empty warehouse or a school gym but the result definitely became the look for that kind of movie. Like the lighting of the lab in in RE1 isn't the slick, white future science facility you see in RE2 (which borrows far more from American movies) you'd see in American sci-fi stuff, it's the darkly lit lab you'd see in stuff like The Other Hell or Contamination. The little "FEAR can't kill you, but....." lines during the loading screens. The architecture of the mansion itself, it's really cool how they put all of this stuff into game form.

It's easy to see how this happened too - Cannibal Holocaust was a big hit in Japan. When that happened, to capitalize on it basically every Italian exploitation flick from the late 70s to mid 80s got a VHS release in Japan over like a three year period from ~1983 to 1986, which is exactly when a l teens/early 20s Shinji MIkami would have been getting super engrossed in this stuff.

But it's so cool to me how Resident Evil is able to be a pastiche of all of these older horror movies while still also putting it all together to be its own thing, it transcends just being a brainless ripoff like a lot of games do and is a big part of why the series is still around today imo.

I wrote a thing about this a few years ago, the site it was for doesn't exist anymore but I have a PDF of it here if people want to read it:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/14-q-aZy7Z-2i8ctYhdXkXMjX1YoInCZ6

# ? Mar 29, 2020 16:00

Brazilianpeanutwar: Aug 27, 2015; Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

Basticle posted:

I claimed RE0, thanks my guy

Maybe now I'll finally beat it, I got so frustrated with the Gamecube version I gave up.

Here�s a tip,leave the grappling hook in the mansion save area,it takes up too many loving slots and it�s only used a few times,probably the most irritating thing in the entire game.

# ? Mar 29, 2020 16:05

Al Cu Ad Solte: Nov 30, 2005; Searching for
a righteous cause

https://residentevilmodding.boards.net/thread/12646/carlos-short-hair-care

There, everyone can stop whining about Carlos' magnificent hair. :colbert:

# ? Mar 29, 2020 17:09

Convex: Aug 19, 2010

Reading the movie talk has made me realise that despite loving the RE series I've only actually seen Dawn of the Dead and Braindead as far as proper zombie films go. Which ones would everyone recommend as far as RE influences go?

# ? Mar 29, 2020 17:13

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

I adore that crazy Italian horror films had as much influence on Japanese horror videogames as they did. It makes for a really interesting flavor.

# ? Mar 29, 2020 17:18

Mulva: Sep 13, 2011; It's about time for my once per decade ban for being a consistently terrible poster.

Snagged Rev2 Episode 1. Rad to have the one that restarted an unbroken streak of good RE games.

Umbrella Chronicles what? Never heard of it.

# ? Mar 29, 2020 17:27

Brazilianpeanutwar: Aug 27, 2015; Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

Convex posted:

Reading the movie talk has made me realise that despite loving the RE series I've only actually seen Dawn of the Dead and Braindead as far as proper zombie films go. Which ones would everyone recommend as far as RE influences go?

28 days later,don't watch the sequel it's beyond poo poo.

# ? Mar 29, 2020 17:32

el oso: Feb 18, 2005; phew, for a minute there i lost myself

Brazilianpeanutwar posted:

28 days later,don't watch the sequel it's beyond poo poo.

The first 10 minutes of 28 Weeks Later are amazing though

# ? Mar 29, 2020 17:37

Party Boat: Nov 1, 2007; where did that other dog come from

who is he

Definitely watch the original Night of the Living Dead, they failed to copyright it properly so it's freely available on YouTube. There's a few visual nods to it in RE1 at least, such as the mounted deer head in one of the rooms.

# ? Mar 29, 2020 17:45

Caidin: Oct 29, 2011

Mulva posted:

Snagged Rev2 Episode 1. Rad to have the one that restarted an unbroken streak of good RE games.

Umbrella Chronicles what? Never heard of it.

I liked Darkside Chronicles but that may just be the soundtrack talking.

# ? Mar 29, 2020 17:56

rabidsquid: Oct 11, 2004; LOVES THE KOG

Neo Rasa posted:

My wife and I have been re-playing many an RE game lately and just realized neither of us had touched 6 at any point since the demo years ago. I have it on PS4 because I got some RE bundle at some point so figured okay how bad can this game REALLY be and like, god drat, it's pretty bad. It's just so weirdly brainless compared to other RE games in the main series. And I don't mean that from the emphasis on action and QTEs but like, the way you can't look at lots of stuff in the environment to get little descriptions of things, the lack of files to pick up. We went with Leon's campaign first since I remember people saying that one in general was best but it becomes a weird Left 4 Dead clone 1/3 of the way into it? Like you really can feel how this was multiple teams' stuff getting jammed together. Why is this a dumb action game where you slide and run around a lot to melee hordes of zombies but also if you want to heal yourself you have to, pick up an herb, select the herb, combine it with other herbs, and then transfer it to tablet case, exit that menu, and then press a button solely devoted to using herbs to use it?

The damage feels really hard to read because of that unless your health is in the red so it shows up on screen constantly, like in one part of the game it was like anything touched my character at all it was a hard knockdown and I had to wait to get revived no matter how much I healed? They made something way worse than "FINE/CAUTION/DANGER" which was fine as it was. Like why even have health at that point. Just an all around bad job of conveying information.

It's just crazy how slick and polished the game seems on the surface vs. how unpolished it feels to actually play and interact with.

I know I'm not saying anything new here but folks really weren't exaggerating. The melee moves are a lot of fun but that's like all the game has going for it.

To make sure I wasn't crazy I re-started RE5, game I previously considered to be bad, for a little bit after and that game is crazy intense in comparison to 6.

part of the reason RE6 gets such a bad reputation is that people who hate RE6 because they played the Leon campaign first tell other people the Leon campaign is the best campaign and those people play it first and all of them think "Wow the game doesn't get any better than this" and, get this, the Leon campaign is not remotely the best campaign.

the jake and sherry campaign is absolutely the best, the chris campaign makes people mad because they will scream call of duty but its actually pretty well paced and largely fine, the leon campaign is miserably paced and the partner also gets the worst campaign if you dont want to count the weird patched in hunk in the ada story.

# ? Mar 29, 2020 18:25

Al Cu Ad Solte: Nov 30, 2005; Searching for
a righteous cause

Caidin posted:

I liked Darkside Chronicles but that may just be the soundtrack talking.

Darkside Chronicle's version of Code Veronica's best song is great: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0LMPMvsZ9s

# ? Mar 29, 2020 18:26

DeathChicken: Jul 9, 2012; Nonsense. I have not yet begun to defile myself.

The Hunk mission in Umbrella Chronicles was great, with Hunk just sort of casually fighting through the sewers while the world died on his radio

# ? Mar 29, 2020 18:27

Kibayasu: Mar 28, 2010

rabidsquid posted:

part of the reason RE6 gets such a bad reputation is that people who hate RE6 because they played the Leon campaign first tell other people the Leon campaign is the best campaign and those people play it first and all of them think "Wow the game doesn't get any better than this" and, get this, the Leon campaign is not remotely the best campaign.

the jake and sherry campaign is absolutely the best, the chris campaign makes people mad because they will scream call of duty but its actually pretty well paced and largely fine, the leon campaign is miserably paced and the partner also gets the worst campaign if you dont want to count the weird patched in hunk in the ada story.

The city level after the university in Leon�s campaign is the best part of the game. Unfortunately it�s only 1 level.

And please do not insult Ada�s best friend.

# ? Mar 29, 2020 18:35

GUI: Nov 5, 2005

I played Resident Evil 6 on release and all the campaigns are mostly hot garbage. Chris and Ada's keep the scripted events, gimmicks, QTEs, etc. to a minimum, so they were the "best" and I'm using that term loosely because they're still full of terrible boss fights and trial and error segments. People nowadays are more positive on it because the franchise (and Capcom) is back on track quality wise and it can be found for less than $20 on current gen instead of being a full priced title. The combat is its only saving grace and that's never really utilized properly outside a gimmick mode with a handful of maps and a time limit (Mercenaries).

# ? Mar 29, 2020 18:46

In Training: Jun 28, 2008

Jake and Sherry's campaign is fun and so is invading people as a zombie

# ? Mar 29, 2020 19:17

rabidsquid: Oct 11, 2004; LOVES THE KOG

Kibayasu posted:

The city level after the university in Leon�s campaign is the best part of the game. Unfortunately it�s only 1 level.

people really want this to be true and its just honestly not. like the pacing is absolutely dog poo poo, although the lower paced mercenaries style open level affect is pretty cool actual game play wise. but the story just lurches so drat slow during leons first several sections and then you get to the catacombs and everything sucks.

leons campaign is the worst starter campaign and its not even close.

# ? Mar 29, 2020 19:19

Open Marriage Night: Sep 18, 2009; "Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"