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punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

Nihonniboku posted:

The problem is that they've been raised to be comfortable with people. It's incredibly dangerous to release them into the wild. It's why they are sent to sanctuaries if they can. Otherwise they're put down.

What's the difference between a sanctuary and a zoo? Her place and Joe Exotic's didn't seem any different from the episodes I've seen.

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IShallRiseAgain
Sep 12, 2008

Well ain't that precious?

punk rebel ecks posted:

What's the difference between a sanctuary and a zoo?

Sanctuaries tend to limit exposure to people, and they live in a manner closer to what they would in the wild.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!

punk rebel ecks posted:

What's the difference between a sanctuary and a zoo? Her place and Joe Exotic's didn't seem any different from the episodes I've seen.

There are only so many zoos. The show pointed out that there are more big cats kept in private captivity than there are in the wild.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

IShallRiseAgain posted:

Sanctuaries tend to limit exposure to people, and they live in a manner closer to what they would in the wild.

How are the cats at her place living anywhere close to how they do in the wild? They are in cages the size of my apartment!

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!

Sarchasm posted:

I thought the child was what the actress brought with her. Sending her up is a statement that their struggle was to ensure a better future for the next generation. It's the ultimate selfless act in an experiment designed to promote selfishness. It's also a bit of a joke about social mobility.

I think The Platform is a cool movie, for anyone who hasn't seen it yet. A little bit of Cube and a whole lot of Karl Marx.

For all The Platform condemns capitalism, it equally condemns socialism, both fail in the movie for the same reason, greed and fear.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!

punk rebel ecks posted:

How are the cats at her place living anywhere close to how they do in the wild? They are in cages the size of my apartment!

You're right, it's obviously not ideal. The regulation around private ownership of exotic animals is lax enough as it is in the US. There is no money in preserving great swaths of land to be able to sustain big cats that (according to the show) need 400 square miles of territory each.

Glottis
May 29, 2002

No. It's necessary.
Yam Slacker

Inspector Hound posted:

Locke and Key isn't exactly my thing, but it's miles better than The Magicians.

If The Magicians is Chronicles Narnia crossed with Harry Potter, Locke and Key is Narnia crossed with...The People Under the Stairs?

e Narnia crossed with Jumper with Hellraiser

Also the villain just opened a portal to a random subway and threw a kid in front of a train, this might be a better show than I thought

how much of The Magicians did you watch? Locke and Key felt like completely aimless magic in which the main characters made bad decisions 100% of the time to me. The Magicians is so much better.

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica

Inspector Hound posted:

Locke and Key isn't exactly my thing, but it's miles better than The Magicians.

If The Magicians is Chronicles Narnia crossed with Harry Potter, Locke and Key is Narnia crossed with...The People Under the Stairs?

e Narnia crossed with Jumper with Hellraiser

Also the villain just opened a portal to a random subway and threw a kid in front of a train, this might be a better show than I thought

Seems like you're comparing a Hill House-alike with child protagonists with a musical comedy that I happen to like? I'm confused as to your point.

SHISHKABOB
Nov 30, 2012

Fun Shoe

wormil posted:

For all The Platform condemns capitalism, it equally condemns socialism, both fail in the movie for the same reason, greed and fear.

It condemns "spontaneous solidarity".

Unkempt
May 24, 2003

...perfect spiral, scientists are still figuring it out...

bred posted:


On a lighter note, we're working our way through Taskmaster on YouTube. It's a lot of fun and so far no ads. Any recommendations for something similar?

More Taskmaster, obviously. There's a US version that wasn't very good; the episodes were a half hour which really hurt it. But, if you're OK with subtitles, there's:

Stormester
https://mega.nz/#F!w4FWACxC!WyNUXtoSWgx5dTdLPhlY6A
- the Danish one and our current favourite, very good subtitles

Best i Test
https://mega.nz/#F!t9UzkYqB!agt1WGPUOUs-AoS926o74g
- Swedish, pretty good but we're currently trying to watch season 2 and the subtitles are hosed up which makes it tricky

Kongen Befaler
https://mega.nz/#F!Ut0FmQwA!8W8_y5qVatVMSapyr_Fgcg
- Norwegian, it's a good one but only 1 season so far

Dicho y Hecho
https://mega.nz/#F!ZpchUIYT!XHpGnXtSFnJaRy0BTYqWXw
- Spanish. Watched one episode. Didn't like it at all. Maybe you will.

I think there's going to be a NZ one at some point but not out yet.

fenix down
Jan 12, 2005

Nihonniboku posted:

You're right, it's obviously not ideal. The regulation around private ownership of exotic animals is lax enough as it is in the US. There is no money in preserving great swaths of land to be able to sustain big cats that (according to the show) need 400 square miles of territory each.
Someone needs to just purchase a big island with different sections for all the rescued animals, separated by electric fences. Then people could come and ride around in tour jeeps to see all these majestic predators in their natural habitat.

Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003

Glottis posted:

how much of The Magicians did you watch? Locke and Key felt like completely aimless magic in which the main characters made bad decisions 100% of the time to me. The Magicians is so much better.

BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:

Seems like you're comparing a Hill House-alike with child protagonists with a musical comedy that I happen to like? I'm confused as to your point.

These points might be fair, they're kind of apples and oranges but they're also both Narnia-ish and I watched them close together so they'll be locked together in my mind forever. The Magicians is kind of an ensemble gossipy drama, and a lot of the suuuuper clever dialogue just missed me. Locke and Key is a much more self serious show that doesn't really start to get dumb until you start to see the lady in the well a bunch. The characters make all the wrong decisions, but so do most characters in most things, at least to an extent, just to drive the story forward.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

punk rebel ecks posted:

How are the cats at her place living anywhere close to how they do in the wild? They are in cages the size of my apartment!

They're not, Joe and Doc might be terrible people but they're right in that making money is at the heart of her whole scheme. She's charging people for entry to her park just like the other two, but she's also raking in donations from clueless saps who think she's a legit sanctuary. The legislation they're trying to get passed would shut down competition while allowing her to continue through some loophole, same as any other business tries to do.

frogbs
May 5, 2004
Well well well
Saw that "The Master" was on Netflix and gave it a watch. Does anyone know if most of the movie is improvised? I feel like pretty much any scene where Joaquin Phoenix is talking to someone was just made up on the spot. Maybe that's the point, (like Philip Seymour Hoffman's character is just making everything up), but it made for a movie that just felt like it didn't have a strong point.

LemonLimeSoda
Jan 23, 2020

frogbs posted:

Saw that "The Master" was on Netflix and gave it a watch. Does anyone know if most of the movie is improvised? I feel like pretty much any scene where Joaquin Phoenix is talking to someone was just made up on the spot. Maybe that's the point, (like Philip Seymour Hoffman's character is just making everything up), but it made for a movie that just felt like it didn't have a strong point.

That's possible but I feel like the movie was really trying to drive home how unlikable and maladjusted Joaquins character was and how unable he was to connect with anyone

Lechtansi
Mar 23, 2004

Item Get
I wanted to give some shout outs to some really surprising finds, and see if anything else would be recommended.

Shows
The Good Place - A girl finds herself in heaven by mistake and has to figure out how to become a good enough person to stay. I was not expecting "my philosophy degree - the show" to be so goddamn funny.
Killing Eve - I guess I like psychopaths? The antagonist in this show is amazing, and i love the whole "standard spy / assassin plot, but done by women" aspect of it. Very refreshing take.
Tabula Rasa - Probably the best whodunit i've seen in a long time. Think memento, with its crazy twists and memory shenanigans, but done as a 9 part miniseries.

Movies
Mr. Right - This movie is waaaaay better than it has any right to be. It has Sam Rockwell and Anna Kendrick basically being themselves in a modern take on "woman falls in love with a hitman". Gross Point Blanke did it better, but this is still really drat good.

I've been unemployed for the last few months, so I've watched quite a bit other than this but these are the highlights. Anyone have any recommendations for shows/movies that are similar in theme?

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
Real fun Anna Kendrick movie is A Simple Favor which is streaming on Hulu.

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010
I ended up kinda eh on The Good Place. I think it's the same thing as Russian Doll, there's so much poo poo that okay stuff is elevated.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
Finally finished "Tiger King". Everyone is a conman.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


The good place would have been one great season of TV but it was already dragging by season 2

IShallRiseAgain
Sep 12, 2008

Well ain't that precious?

veni veni veni posted:

The good place would have been one great season of TV but it was already dragging by season 2

Nah, season 2 was good, but I got tired of characters' memories resetting constantly by season 3. There are thematic reasons why that kept happening, but that doesn't make it something I want to watch.

Flying Zamboni
May 7, 2007

but, uh... well, there it is

The only part I thought really dragged in The Good Place was the brief stretch in season 3 where they are on earth trying take their family members better people. Otherwise I thought it was a pretty well paced series.

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010
I was surprised the show thought i appreciated Tahani and Jason so much i wanted time devoted to them and their relationship
Eventually even Janet jokes wore out their welcome for me and i really enjoyed those

Overall its the kind of show i thought was competent but sorta whatever. Like what the average show SHOULD be instead of garbo.
But at the same time comedy is so subjective, i laugh at a lot of silly poo poo.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
I think the novelty just wore off too fast for The Good Place. Maybe they should have saved the big reveal for the season 2 finale or something. Then you might not have had the constant memory-wipe poo poo that plagued the last few seasons.

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Is Sling Blade (Netflix) good? Or is it just a vanity piece for Billy Bob Thornton?

Also looking for reviews of The Quiet Earth on Shudder.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Sling Blade is a classic

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
Yup

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

Ramrod Hotshot posted:

Is Sling Blade (Netflix) good? Or is it just a vanity piece for Billy Bob Thornton?

Make yourself some french fried potatoes and put that movie on right now goon sir!

Field Mousepad
Mar 21, 2010
BAE
Dwight Yokam plays a fantastic scum bag as well

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!

Ramrod Hotshot posted:

Is Sling Blade (Netflix) good? Or is it just a vanity piece for Billy Bob Thornton?

Also looking for reviews of The Quiet Earth on Shudder.

Sling Blade is great, Quiet Earth is good.

Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003

Punkin Spunkin posted:

I ended up kinda eh on The Good Place. I think it's the same thing as Russian Doll, there's so much poo poo that okay stuff is elevated.

It's pretty mediocre overall, but I'm an absolute sucker for some of the Florida jokes and the jokes about existence and philosophy that wouldn't really be possible to set up in a different show.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy



mmhmm

Raskolnikov2089
Nov 3, 2006

Schizzy to the matic

Ramrod Hotshot posted:

Is Sling Blade (Netflix) good? Or is it just a vanity piece for Billy Bob Thornton?

Also looking for reviews of The Quiet Earth on Shudder.

The Quiet Earth is a classic.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Tiger king is so bonkers.

I remember the Joe Exotic thread from many years ago but this is so much crazier than I ever knew .

david_a
Apr 24, 2010




Megamarm

Ramrod Hotshot posted:

Is Sling Blade (Netflix) good? Or is it just a vanity piece for Billy Bob Thornton?

Also looking for reviews of The Quiet Earth on Shudder.

I also watched Sling Blade Kaiser Blade a few decades after it was released and it was much better than I expected it to be.

The Quiet Earth is fine. There’s one great shot but I think they even ruin it with the preview still.

flatluigi
Apr 23, 2008

here come the planes
gonna be the dissenting voice (in this thread) and say The Good Place is fantastic and one of my all-time favorite TV shows

Kirk Vikernes
Apr 26, 2004

Count Goatnackh

I just finished Velocipastor on Prime and that is a wild ride.

George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010





I feel like HIMYM and The Good Place would have been perfect as 1 seasoners. Fewer seasons the better.

SunshineDanceParty
Feb 7, 2006

One Road. Two Friends. One Ass.
The Good Place, like most Schur produced shows, was all about the characters, and how much you enjoy it is going to depend on how you like seeing them interact with each other.

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Glottis
May 29, 2002

No. It's necessary.
Yam Slacker
wait, people stopped liking The Good Place? I enjoyed that show all the way to the end.

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