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Motto posted:There's also the bit where he rapes a woman into being enamored with him for the rest of the book. God, how did I forget that. It's not even an ambiguous, 'the author doesn't think this is rape, different era' rape. It's rape-rape. She hates his guts until violently raping her makes her fall in love with him.
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Motto posted:There's also the bit where he rapes a woman into being enamored with him for the rest of the book. She respects his indomitable will. Rand based him on a petty criminal who kidnapped the young daughter of a wealthy family, accidentally killed her, and then stuffed her body with rags and rigged it up with wires to make her appear to be alive so that he could attempt to go through with collecting the ransom. Rand believed that he would have been a great leader if he had been born a viking instead of in an age where there was social security.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:She respects his indomitable will. Rand based him on a petty criminal who kidnapped the young daughter of a wealthy family, accidentally killed her, and then stuffed her body with rags and rigged it up with wires to make her appear to be alive so that he could attempt to go through with collecting the ransom. Rand believed that he would have been a great leader if he had been born a viking instead of in an age where there was social security. Don't forget he chopped up the little girl's body and threw her piece by piece out of a moving car. Rand thought he was peak husbando material. 
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Bakeneko posted:I remember playing a Call of Duty game set in a Metal Gear-ish future where soldiers were all cyborgs. The villain was an evil AI that controlled people through their brain implants and it had this trippy ending where you weren't sure what exactly happened. It was fun. so yeah. basicaly everything happened but not really type bullshit. Ghostlight posted:both of its sequels have their climaxes in the middle east even though you are trying to kill an american and a russian respectively. oh yeah. 2 ends in US black site and killing some chud general who is lance henrikson. and 3 is dubai probably. Antifa Turkeesian posted:She respects his indomitable will. Rand based him on a petty criminal who kidnapped the young daughter of a wealthy family, accidentally killed her, and then stuffed her body with rags and rigged it up with wires to make her appear to be alive so that he could attempt to go through with collecting the ransom. Rand believed that he would have been a great leader if he had been born a viking instead of in an age where there was social security. one of my favorite articles is this https://newrepublic.com/article/154705/last-ayn-rand-acolytes randists are sad fucks. like they have classes and lectures on music rand liked (it was weird dumb nitch poo poo) so they all try to like it too because they themselves are parasites.
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Jamie Faith posted:
never knew that about BO but honestly(the massacares in hue were kinda accurate but the rest was mostly bullshit) i am not surprised they hosed up the language because they hosed up the uniforms too. anyway yeah. MW is bleak as gently caress. with 3 you forgot that basicaly most of europe and the american east coast is super hosed up with the ultra-nationalist russian goverment still in power after killing at least a quater of europe and working with a known super terrorist who they can now blame for everything since he is hanging in Dubai hotel.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:one of my favorite articles is this https://newrepublic.com/article/154705/last-ayn-rand-acolytes randists are sad fucks. like they have classes and lectures on music rand liked (it was weird dumb nitch poo poo) so they all try to like it too because they themselves are parasites.  at the randians unironically complaining that politicians had abandoned the cause.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:one of my favorite articles is this https://newrepublic.com/article/154705/last-ayn-rand-acolytes randists are sad fucks. like they have classes and lectures on music rand liked (it was weird dumb nitch poo poo) so they all try to like it too because they themselves are parasites. This is the saddest most pathetic thing I've ever read. What the gently caress? lol Objectivism sounds like Scientology for neckbeards who hate poor people and are living embodiments of the Dunning-Krugger effect.
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CmdrKing posted:It’s always been odd to me that Civil War is viewed as arguing against accountability, when the proposed accountability is by available evidence a reformed version of the world security council (you may recall them as the shadowy fucks who voted to nuke New York) and whose first action in CW is to issue a shoot to kill order on a man publicly known to be a victim of intense brainwashing. Civil war talked about them being under the control of the UN security council, hardly "Shadowy fucks". If we want to reference current politics, the reason your goverment is trying to save the economy at the expense of the people is because you elected lovely politicians. This is not universal, there can be, and are, goverments that take this seriously and are in fact prioritising the life of their citizens. But more to the point, CW isn't a documentary, the framing of the goverment as incompetent or malicious is done (either purposefully or not) by the writers. "Regulation is bad, let's have PMC roam unchecked without oversight" has not, historically speaking, led to positive outcomes. Caps argument is farcical on the face of it. And as a sidenote, what the hell is up with the world security council? What a dumb rear end idea was that anyway? Like what purpose do they even serve in the narrative that regular heads of state couldn't? What exactly is their jurisdiction? Why do they outrank POTUS? Who elects them? What is their authority? And why did they only appear in one movie? It's just such a baffling decision to have a shadowy illuminati-esque group order a nuclear strike, why not have it be the actual POTUS? Jesus Whedon, get it together.
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McCloud posted:And as a sidenote, what the hell is up with the world security council? What a dumb rear end idea was that anyway? Like what purpose do they even serve in the narrative that regular heads of state couldn't? What exactly is their jurisdiction? Why do they outrank POTUS? Who elects them? What is their authority? And why did they only appear in one movie? It's just such a baffling decision to have a shadowy illuminati-esque group order a nuclear strike, why not have it be the actual POTUS? Jesus Whedon, get it together. Hey now, if you'd watched Marvel's Agent of Shield you'd know that the councilman played by Powers Boothe was given a very rich and detailed backstory. It turns out he's evil because he's bad.
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the problem with modern warfare as a trilogy is that they kept having to one up themselves in terms of shock value and stakes and what not so it just ends up being misery porn save the world nonsense
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watho posted:the problem with modern warfare as a trilogy is that they kept having to one up themselves in terms of shock value and stakes and what not so it just ends up being misery porn save the world nonsense Oh yeah, I agree with that. The nuke scene in MW1 was brilliant. The Airport scene is MW2 while brutal and a little tasteless, was showing how not all Russians are evil, in fact, they're the biggest victims of Russian Nationalists like Makarov. (one of the quotes you get when you die in MW2 is "No one despises their fellow countrymen like self-proclaimed Patriots do" Which is a top tier quote) Just like how Muslim people are the biggest victims of Muslim extremist groups like ISIS in the middle east. The Child death/gas attack scene in MW3 is completely pointless, tryhard edgelordy bullshit. In fact, its even better when you opt to skip it! The game gives you an option to skip the "Davis family vacation" part just like how you can skip the airport level in MW2 but instead of just skipping over the level like in MW2 and nothing happens, You still see the gas attack. But instead of witnessing it as the dad of the little girl and getting killed, the game changes it to where the gas attack happens to the British squad you're playing as! So you can still see the gas attack happen and not miss any of the story but not have to suffer through the cringy attempts at...I dunno whatever they were going for 
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The Black Ops games were the best of the newer CoDs and 3 was better than 2, IW are overrated and this has always been my stance, plus World at War was a good time, Treyarch gang. Also Rand should've been aborted. Yardbomb fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Apr 5, 2020 |
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Yardbomb posted:The Black Ops games were the best of the newer CoDs and 3 was better than 2, IW are overrated and this has always been my stance. If you mean the multiplayer and zombies then yeah they are a lot more ambitious and are always willing to try new stuff which is fun and that's a perfectly valid stance. If you mean the campaigns...then that ain't it chief.
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isn’t the big twist at the end of blops that you were brain washed to kill kennedy?
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watho posted:isn’t the big twist at the end of blops that you were brain washed to kill kennedy? Yes lmao That game's plot is like if you got Alex Jones to write his own version of Metal Gear.
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Jamie Faith posted:Yes lmao That game's plot is like if you got Alex Jones to write his own version of Metal Gear. Jamie Faith posted:Oh yeah, I agree with that. My question is, why the gently caress would you even be vacationing in the universe. Like I assume the Davis are American, like didn’t the east coat plus more get empd plus loving invaded? Idk how long of a time jump it is between 2 and the beginning of 3 is and the attack/invasion of Europe. Maybe they are Canadian.
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McCloud posted:And as a sidenote, what the hell is up with the world security council? What a dumb rear end idea was that anyway? Like what purpose do they even serve in the narrative that regular heads of state couldn't? What exactly is their jurisdiction? Why do they outrank POTUS? Who elects them? What is their authority? And why did they only appear in one movie? It's just such a baffling decision to have a shadowy illuminati-esque group order a nuclear strike, why not have it be the actual POTUS? Jesus Whedon, get it together. They are in Avengers and Winter Soldier but yeah, the idea didn't really make much sense. It's also why the US Military didn't really assist in the production of Avengers (unlike some other MCU films).
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Dapper_Swindler posted:My question is, why the gently caress would you even be vacationing in the universe. Like I assume the Davis are American, like didn’t the east coat plus more get empd plus loving invaded? Idk how long of a time jump it is between 2 and the beginning of 3 is and the attack/invasion of Europe. Maybe they are Canadian. lol 3 takes place right after 2. There's no time skip. When Russia invades Europe, they launch a preemptive strike in the form of a gas attack. The very gas attack that kills the Davis family. But yeah your point still stands. If they're American, they thought "Wow! our country is being invaded! Time for a vacay!" lmao You would think America being under siege would make things a lot like how they are right now IRL with coronavirus. Everyone staying indoors, for fear of leaving the house, bunkering down, waiting for the whole situation to blow over. Maybe they were already overseas when the invasion started? lol
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McCloud posted:"Regulation is bad, let's have PMC roam unchecked without oversight" has not, historically speaking, led to positive outcomes. Caps argument is farcical on the face of it. no big question as to why tony stark, a rich white man firmly embedded in the military industrial complex who has been a known public figure for decades, sees registration as nothing more than an unfortunate but necessary concession to a scared government.
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Yardbomb posted:The Black Ops games were the best of the newer CoDs and 3 was better than 2, IW are overrated and this has always been my stance, plus World at War was a good time, Treyarch gang. 4's great because there's only a skeleton of a storyline, and in the end you're a mercenary in a virtual simulation trying to prove you're good enough along with other mercs trying the same thing.
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McCloud posted:Civil war talked about them being under the control of the UN security council, hardly "Shadowy fucks". If we want to reference current politics, the reason your goverment is trying to save the economy at the expense of the people is because you elected lovely politicians. This is not universal, there can be, and are, goverments that take this seriously and are in fact prioritising the life of their citizens. But more to the point, CW isn't a documentary, the framing of the goverment as incompetent or malicious is done (either purposefully or not) by the writers. "Regulation is bad, let's have PMC roam unchecked without oversight" has not, historically speaking, led to positive outcomes. Caps argument is farcical on the face of it. The world security council appears again in Winter Soldier (most of them die). Their nationalities match up closely (though not perfectly) with the UN Security council. It is reasonable to assume with the evidence in hand they were just a plausible deniability shadow counterpart created by the security council. And again, the first act under the Sokovia Accords, before anyone has even signed, while they were on a "I dunno man my last movie was about how hosed up politics got due to secret nazis, can I sleep on this poo poo?" break... was ordering a man they knew to be a brainwashing victim killed. Not apprehended, not "approach with extreme caution", not "wanted dead or alive", explicitly dead only. They had proven to be untrustworthy before anyone except Tony Stark had even agreed to trust them! Besides, if we're going to read this as an analogue... the guy on the government's side is the weapons manufacturer. The government immediately engages in murder because... well realistically because someone wanted to silence a loose end (oh hey wait who's on the real-life security council that might be motivated by a russian asset going rogue...). Despite being framed as international in story, the use of "government" in the equation is pretty obviously the US at its most imperialist, while Cap's entire mission is a) stopping them murdering his best friend and b) figuring out why they WANT to kill him so maybe he can stop them trying to kill him. While the avengers absolutely are a paramilitary force, allegorically assigning that role relative to the government to Cap just doesn't make any sense, because Tony is already filling it. Like, this movie is extremely grounded in US political reality (although it IS a Captain America movie, fair enough I suppose), and the US just... isn't... capable of providing ethical oversight even where oversight is logically required. It's a movie very much about disillusionment in institutions and having to create community support systems to stand up for the most marginalized within it. It's an incredibly weird theme to put into your super hero movie and I don't think it fully works, but... well, that's Cap.
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Jamie Faith posted:lol 3 takes place right after 2. There's no time skip. When Russia invades Europe, they launch a preemptive strike in the form of a gas attack. The very gas attack that kills the Davis family. i think its supposed to be like a month. i am gonna be a loser and try to fill in the blanks. 2 and the first couple levels of 3 happen around the same time. russia gets its teeth kicked in by america on the east coast and retreat and the survivors are probably lynched on the streets by east coasters. but america is super hosed up too. russia and america licks its wounds and russian president W bush realizes he wont win the war and i assume peace talks start up, unfortunattly. makorov is loving black pill dugginist nut job and has enough sway in the upper echelons of the party/military that he is able to do that Bane type bullshit and kidnap him. than he does the terror attack and bribes/etc the russian military forces into doing a full "gently caress it" invasion. game happens. Makorov dies like the little nazibol bitch that he is. russsian W bush is back in power but like europe is super hosed now and russia has committed all the war crimes in a speed run. Shinji2015 posted:4's great because there's only a skeleton of a storyline, and in the end you're a mercenary in a virtual simulation trying to prove you're good enough along with other mercs trying the same thing. I still like IW the best and the newest one despite its various genuin issues is still pretty good. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Apr 5, 2020 |
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i generally like the treyarch ones best because while their stories tend to be loving insane cod is primarily a multiplayer game and they had the most interesting systems like blops’ nonlinear unlocks or blops 2’s class system which let you forgo a secondary weapon to put on more attachments on your primary weapon, and stuff like that
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I thought Mr. Incredible was in the right for telling Buddy to go home since was like, 12. What a wild environment. Its like the 60's and people are making robots and transforming card and rocket boots but you look at a tv and the screen's smaller than a laptop.
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watho posted:i generally like the treyarch ones best because while their stories tend to be loving insane cod is primarily a multiplayer game and they had the most interesting systems like blops’ nonlinear unlocks or blops 2’s class system which let you forgo a secondary weapon to put on more attachments on your primary weapon, and stuff like that i have always been more of BF multiplayer person(bigger battles vehicles etc) or co-op games.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i think its supposed to be like a month. i am gonna be a loser and try to fill in the blanks. 2 and the first couple levels of 3 happen around the same time. russia gets its teeth kicked in by america on the east coast and retreat and the survivors are probably lynched on the streets by east coasters. but america is super hosed up too. russia and america licks its wounds and russian president W bush realizes he wont win the war and i assume peace talks start up, unfortunattly. makorov is loving black pill dugginist nut job and has enough sway in the upper echelons of the party/military that he is able to do that Bane type bullshit and kidnap him. than he does the terror attack and bribes/etc the russian military forces into doing a full "gently caress it" invasion. game happens. Makorov dies like the little nazibol bitch that he is. russsian W bush is back in power but like europe is super hosed now and russia has committed all the war crimes in a speed run. Yeah that's a pretty good summary of events watho posted:i generally like the treyarch ones best because while their stories tend to be loving insane cod is primarily a multiplayer game and they had the most interesting systems like blops’ nonlinear unlocks or blops 2’s class system which let you forgo a secondary weapon to put on more attachments on your primary weapon, and stuff like that Yeah I totally get that. IW had a policy of "if it aint broke don't fix it" with their MP. And when they finally did do something different (MW3's MP) it was a disaster. lol
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Jamie Faith posted:Yeah that's a pretty good summary of events yeah. i get bored and try to put stupid video game stories into realistic sounding Geopolitical contexts and poo poo. my minor was homeland security and major was history, if i could actually script/write/make videos. id probably make dumb videos/podcasts about it because my friends and i talk about this kinda poo poo alot. like we were watching phantom meance(yeah it sucks but for laughs) and we talked about how corascant probably has like 9/11 level disasters every day because of the air traffic. give me a some video game stories and i will try to do it here more.
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Advanced and Infinite Warfare were both a trip too yeah, honestly I'm still disappointed that Infinite got dragged way more not for anything of the game's own fault, but because lovely activision held the CoD4 remaster hostage behind one of it's special editions. For a long, long time I was the person going "Man, screw it, I wish they'd just go full sci-fi, I want CoD with particle beams and gauss rifles and all that whacky garbage" and then they made it and it got hosed over for reasons mainly outside of the game itself's control. And now we're back to WWII and zzzzzzzzz.
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Yardbomb posted:Advanced and Infinite Warfare were both a trip too yeah, honestly I'm still disappointed that Infinite got dragged way more not for anything of the game's own fault, but because lovely activision held the CoD4 remaster hostage behind one of it's special editions. For a long, long time I was the person going "Man, screw it, I wish they'd just go full sci-fi, I want CoD with particle beams and gauss rifles and all that whacky garbage" and then they made it and it got hosed over for reasons mainly outside of the game itself's control. yeah that sucked. what sucks is IW is pretty drat good campaign wise and it sucks that it got hosed because of activision greed.
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Yardbomb posted:Advanced and Infinite Warfare were both a trip too yeah, honestly I'm still disappointed that Infinite got dragged way more not for anything of the game's own fault, but because lovely activision held the CoD4 remaster hostage behind one of it's special editions. For a long, long time I was the person going "Man, screw it, I wish they'd just go full sci-fi, I want CoD with particle beams and gauss rifles and all that whacky garbage" and then they made it and it got hosed over for reasons mainly outside of the game itself's control. I KNOW RIGHT??? Infinite Warfare was so drat good. Best campaign since MW2 imo. I would have much prefered an IW2 instead of the MW reboot...I wanted to see what happens next in the IW world after that insane ending.
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Jamie Faith posted:I KNOW RIGHT??? Infinite Warfare was so drat good. Best campaign since MW2 imo. I would have much prefered an IW2 instead of the MW reboot...I wanted to see what happens next in the IW world after that insane ending. one of the game informer interviews said they would go back to it at some point. but i thought the ending was decent enough that your could not have a sequel. main character and most of crew die but most of the space nazis fighting capabilities are super hosed along with like most of their fleet and their super star destroyer, most of the high command is dead too.
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Argas posted:IW has its own issues campaign-wise though. Just different ones from the usual MW or blops affairs. it had some pacing issues but it was mostly fine, it also didnt need to court controversy or dumb poo poo like that. it was basically space UN vs space nazis lead by john snow.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:one of the game informer interviews said they would go back to it at some point. but i thought the ending was decent enough that your could not have a sequel. main character and most of crew die but most of the space nazis fighting capabilities are super hosed along with like most of their fleet and their super star destroyer, most of the high command is dead too. Yeah but your fleet is destroyed too and that one lady survived. I was thinking of a sequel where you play as that gal who lived and continue the fight. Maybe get another celebrity to play a new villain who took the reigns a la Makarov.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:it had some pacing issues but it was mostly fine, it also didnt need to court controversy or dumb poo poo like that. it was basically space UN vs space nazis lead by john snow. I think they can still do better than that with the writing.
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100th episode of Good Bad or Bad Bad! To celebrate, Bryan and Kyle review the sequel to The Mystical Adventures of Billy Owens.
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It's me, I'm the dumb that would rather have a COD that's fully set in the Extinction mode's universe than a Infinite Warfare sequel.
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marathon Stairmaster sesh posted:It's me, I'm the dumb that would rather have a COD that's fully set in the Extinction mode's universe than a Infinite Warfare sequel. That would actually be pretty cool ngl. I've also always thought treyarc should just do a Zombies themed campaign.
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Argas posted:I think they can still do better than that with the writing. true. it could have been better, but for a cod game it was pretty solid.
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