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Duck and Cover posted:gently caress off. I am so sick of people trying to both sides poo poo so they can pretend they don't know who the main offender is. It's Trump. It's the rear end in a top hat governors who refused to do poo poo (What's that? Those states had republican governors? That's shocking). The information is easily attainable and you pretending it isn't is a load of crap. Stop being dumb, understand the difference between facts that happen to make someone look bad and facts cherry picked and misrepresented to make someone look bad. Newsflash: Dr. Fauci, the social distancing guy, is Trump's primary advisor for this crisis. So unless you're saying that the Democrats are against Social Distancing, and the Republicans are for it, they're not exactly on opposite sides of this issue. In fact, the first pundits to take the virus seriously by recommending travel bans and social distancing while impeachment was still dominating the news were Trump's earliest supporters (ie Scott Adams, Steve Bannon, Jack Posobiec, Tarl Warwick, Mike Cernovich, Tucker Carlson, etc). Some of them were warning as early as December, when the rest of the press (both let and right) were downplaying it and focusing on impeachment. Both sides were downplaying the severity until March. But you know what? Even though they were wrong, I actually don't blame people for downplaying the severity, because hindsight is 2020 and an over-reaction that results in a crippling depression or a totalitarian state (like what happened in Hungary) could result in way more lives lost in the longterm than lives lost from the virus in the short term. The World Health Organization may have lied to us about the masks to prevent hoarding (not that it helped much), so even they may have had good intentions by downplaying the need. It's important to point out where we made mistakes so we can learn from them. But this constant blaming and hatred of one an other is exactly what's making this crisis way worse than it needs to be. Gianthogweed fucked around with this message at 02:42 on Apr 5, 2020 |
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tater_salad posted:https://foldingathome.org/papers-results/ Well they've listed 200+ published articles there. So they've definitely turned a lot of data into a lot of words. Which either proves they're accomplishing something or they're very accomplished grifters. I guess we'll both see what we want to see.
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Subvisual Haze posted:Well they've listed 200+ published articles there. So they've definitely turned a lot of data into a lot of words. Which either proves they're accomplishing something or they're very accomplished grifters. I guess we'll both see what we want to see. I'm contributing my gaming pc to folding@home. When I first heard about them I was worried they were bitcoin miners in disguise, but all the research I've done into them seems to be positive so I'm fairly certain they're legit. Whether or not they find a cure is yet to be seen. But it feels good to contribute in any way I can.
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milkrun posted:still possible that the virus was isolated from an animal in that lab and then accidentally released. while such things have happened in the past so it can't be ruled out entirely, you can't prove it one way or the other unless some amazing evidence comes to light so i am happy to stick with occam's razor for now
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Gianthogweed posted:Newsflash: Dr. Fauci, the social distancing guy, is Trump's primary advisor for this crisis. So unless you're saying that the Democrats are against Social Distancing, and the Republicans are for it, they're not exactly on opposite sides of this issue. Fauci has served, like, the last 6 presidents or so. What he advises has nothing to do with republicans or democrats.
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Gianthogweed posted:I'm not quoting your poo poo, gently caress off with your both sides garbage. You blame the people responsible for the bad things and maybe you'll have less incompetency in the future. BUT BUT BUT BOTH SIDES no gently caress you one side shoulders almost all the blame and you loving know it. We all do. It's the republicans, it's Trump. Don't like it? Tough poo poo. Don't like people mentioning it? Tough poo poo.
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Subvisual Haze posted:Well they've listed 200+ published articles there. So they've definitely turned a lot of data into a lot of words. Which either proves they're accomplishing something or they're very accomplished grifters. I guess we'll both see what we want to see. It's better than listening to space for aliens... And Better than buttcon
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Telemaze posted:Fauci has served, like, the last 6 presidents or so. What he advises has nothing to do with republicans or democrats. Which is exactly my point. There is no "Republicans are against social distancing and Democrats are for it".
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Telemaze posted:Fauci has served, like, the last 6 presidents or so. What he advises has nothing to do with republicans or democrats. i think that is his point
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Can't wait to see the uptick in a few weeks in Wisconsin because of this. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/04/wisconsin-republicans-reject-tuesday-primary-delay-164911
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Relayer posted:Maybe like, get back to hating our idiot president after people aren't burying their loved ones way too early. Horrible tragedies *can* be a good avenue for party line-towing but maybe not right now. I believe we can manage to think multiple things at the same time, and the president of the country most of us live in is SOMEWHAT RELEVANT to the discussion CarpenterWalrus posted:We have a whole subforum for lazy-rear end conspiracy theories like this. Why don't you post a new conspiracy thread instead of making GBS threads up the conversation every few hours? You're a real ahole but I'm pretty sure you're mixing me up with someone else. Regardless the origin of the coronavirus is something I, and other people, are interested in. I stated all along that the wet markets were probably the source, but I'm trying to keep an open mind. Also looking back at your posts in this thread you've contributed exactly nothing except really loving lame one liners so... get your own house in order friend QuarkJets posted:And as we all know, this respiratory illness is spread by people splashing piss at each other There are countless ways you could get the virus inside your body, urine from infected animals definitely one of those Philthy posted:Didn't they already say they found the source was from pangolins in Malaysia that were illegally imported into China? They've found the virus in their lungs in the middle of loving nowhere. I didn't hear that, and I hadn't seen the paper someone just posted as well. This is the simpler explanation from that paper: basically, it says the virus is so good at entering human cells that it couldn't possibly be lab created: quote:Here's why: SARS-CoV-2 is very closely related to the virus that causes severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS), which fanned across the globe nearly 20 years ago. Scientists have studied how SARS-CoV differs from SARS-CoV-2 — with several key letter changes in the genetic code. Yet in computer simulations, the mutations in SARS-CoV-2 don't seem to work very well at helping the virus bind to human cells. If scientists had deliberately engineered this virus, they wouldn't have chosen mutations that computer models suggest won't work. But it turns out, nature is smarter than scientists, and the novel coronavirus found a way to mutate that was better — and completely different— from anything scientists could have created, the study found. So those "pathogenic towers" basically indicate it comes via pangolin and couldn't (?) have even come directly from bats apparently Mozi posted:while such things have happened in the past so it can't be ruled out entirely, you can't prove it one way or the other unless some amazing evidence comes to light so i am happy to stick with occam's razor for now Me too, me too. I really just wanted to explore possibilities but I'm definitely not trying to spread irresponsible or incorrect theories
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Gianthogweed posted:Which is exactly my point. There is no "Republicans are against social distancing and Democrats are for it". I knooooow I was supporting your point.
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Chomp8645 posted:Aren't you kind of just waiting for the inevitable to happen isn't this life in general
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Duck and Cover posted:You blame the people responsible for the bad things and maybe you'll have less incompetency in the future. BUT BUT BUT BOTH SIDES no gently caress you one side shoulders almost all the blame and you loving know it. We all do. It's the republicans, it's Trump. Don't like it? Tough poo poo. Don't like people mentioning it? Tough poo poo. i remember two years you were saying the exact same thing about russiagate lmao
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Unassisted, childbirth has about a 1-2% maternal mortality rate. A lot of routine stuff is going to become real fatal real quick in a lot of places. lol
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Duck and Cover posted:You blame the people responsible for the bad things and maybe you'll have less incompetency in the future. BUT BUT BUT BOTH SIDES no gently caress you one side shoulders almost all the blame and you loving know it. We all do. It's the republicans, it's Trump. Don't like it? Tough poo poo. Don't like people mentioning it? Tough poo poo. You're consumed by the same tribalism and scapegoating just like the Republicans you disdain. It's human nature so I don't blame you either. I hope it helps you pass the time and makes you feel good while we're all quarantined.
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Already tons of standard medical procedures have been delayed, altered, or made completely impossible by the situation at hospitals right now. I feel awful for anyone who has a surgery scheduled or is undergoing chemo or really receiving any other treatment which requires care in a hospitalDixville posted:Oh no what have YOU been up to, young man?
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Mnoba posted:Bait. Please Duck and Cover talk to me. Maybe I can get you to say something that'll get you banned. Please DO IT. As a hypothetical I think I'd feel bad if I voted and supported the person who is botching the handling of this crisis. I mean unless you want to suggest Trump is handling this well I'll listen. No? You rather distract from that? Yeah I thought so. Gianthogweed posted:But but both sides are bad! I'm sorry I like to blame people who deserve blame. It's really not my fault that one side has been really loving up compared to the other. You can feel smug all you want how your above all that but guess what that accomplishes? The minority of people having disproportionate power because it's just gosh darn rude to point out that they suck! They suck. Say it often to make sure everyone knows and no one forgets. Oh yeah and it doesn't have to be about Republicans versus Democrats it's just reality worked out that way. I'm sure there are plenty of exceptions if it makes you feel better! (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Play posted:Already tons of standard medical procedures have been delayed, altered, or made completely impossible by the situation at hospitals right now. I feel awful for anyone who has a surgery scheduled or is undergoing chemo or really receiving any other treatment which requires care in a hospital That's for me to know and you to be horrified if i told you  Not really though but i guess i do more with animal urine than most folks
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This was Trump's response to the CDC recommending Americans wear cloth masks:quote:"I just don't want to wear one myself, it's a recommendation," he said. "Somehow sitting in the Oval Office behind that beautiful Resolute Desk, the great Resolute Desk, I think wearing a face mask as I greet presidents, dictators, kings, queens, I don't know, I don't see it for myself." I know he's an exceptionally stupid man but holy poo poo. His reason is literally that it won't look cool and presidential enough.
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milkrun posted:still possible that the virus was isolated from an animal in that lab and then accidentally released. A BSL-4 laboratory and a wet market are as far apart in the standard of caution as it is possible for any two things to be. What’s more is that collection of viruses is less risky than a random virus generator, i.e. an infected bat, pangolin, or civet. With a collection of viruses, there is the potential that one of the thousands of viruses you have collected is capable of causing disease in humans. A live animal is much worse. Viruses are actively reproducing and mutating inside them and trying their hand against humans. It’s like letting a monkey peck at a keypad to guess your PIN, versus the collection of viruses being like two guys put in their own PINs and if one of them happens to be the same as yours, he’s in. Philthy posted:Didn't they already say they found the source was from pangolins in Malaysia that were illegally imported into China? They've found the virus in their lungs in the middle of loving nowhere. Not quite. A virus found in a bat remains the closest genetic match to SARS-CoV-2. These newly discovered pangolin viruses are a better match than any virus previously found in pangolins, and they suggest that bat viruses have been infecting pangolins in places other than Wuhan’s market.
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The mid-2000's fad of "both sides" political nihilism finally stopped being cool? What's next? You gonna tell me someone like Donald Trump is president too? Also which one of you is this trying to turn underwear into a face mask? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSlZSOkRIQg (  for goony body and pants making GBS threads)
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Fabulousity posted:The mid-2000's fad of "both sides" political nihilism finally stopped being cool? What's next? You gonna tell me someone like Donald Trump is president too? Lmao
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Gianthogweed posted:I'm contributing my gaming pc to folding@home. When I first heard about them I was worried they were bitcoin miners in disguise, but all the research I've done into them seems to be positive so I'm fairly certain they're legit. Whether or not they find a cure is yet to be seen. But it feels good to contribute in any way I can. From what I've seen, the projects on Folding@Home themselves are being done by researchers from different universities. That is, actual universities, for example Washington University in St. Louis (not to be confused with the University of Washington which is known for some of the hump graphs we see in the news). I used to be a research assistant myself, and I can tell you that universities care about two things that are definitely not buttcoin: writing papers to be published in conferences and journals, and being the first to put their name on something. I know COVID-19 sounds like some pretty nasty stuff, but I would prefer not having something called derpyhooveshentaioxylene being injected into my veins. Also, whether the Folding@Home effort is meritable depends on the merit of the research groups running each project, not Folding@Home itself.
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FAH has been around for like 20 years or more. They're 100% legit and have been doing this forever.
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“when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.” -Dr Fauci
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bird with big dick posted:“when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.” There are people arguing that, when you think about it, three hundred thousand is closer to zero than almost all real numbers, so actually the prediction was correct. I wish I were joking.
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Platystemon posted:There are people arguing that, when you think about it, three hundred thousand is closer to zero than almost all real numbers, so actually the prediction was correct. 8 billion is essentially zero by that measure
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shovelbum posted:8 billion is essentially zero by that measure Pretty much. "8 billion is near zero if you compare it to infinity". Are these people cretins? Did they fail high school math? (Rhetorical) edit: I bet these are the same people playing lottery and imagine they have a chance of winning. edit 2: I am talking about the people who says that 15k or 50k is a drop in the bucket compared to 8 billion. Bleusilences fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Apr 5, 2020 |
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Blistex posted:I honestly wonder how big a crowd you would need before the Secret Service just threw their hands up and said, "have at it". And you will keep wondering, because the aforementioned scenario is fantasy bullshit that will never occur because Americans
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This is the Reddit thread. For those unfamiliar with Reddit’s UI, most of the hilarious comments are collapsed by default and/or buried deep in comment chains.
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Gianthogweed posted:Which is exactly my point. There is no "Republicans are against social distancing and Democrats are for it". All governors that haven’t issued a stay at home order are republicans and it’s because Trump spent six weeks minimizing the threat of the virus.
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As a matter of fact I AM unfamiliar with Reddit and its hilarious comments and hope never to have to learn to dig through their nested comment feature to find anything!
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100k registered republicans getting un-registered aint gonna change no election results.
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Gianthogweed posted:You're consumed by the same tribalism and scapegoating just like the Republicans you disdain. Except it's not "the tribalism" that's being disdained. They don't care that republicans are banding together. That's not the problem. The problem is that the republicans specifically decided "This whole thing is not important, gently caress the people who are telling you it is, everything is fine", then when THAT turned out to be wrong, they capitalized even on themselves being wrong. People aren't mad that republicans are waving tiny republican flags together, here, homie. They're mad because SPECIFICALLY REPUBLICAN IDEALS ARE KILLING PEOPLE AND THE IDEAS AND INFORMATION THAT REPUBLICANS PROPAGATEDARE CONTINUING TO MAKE THIS WORSE.
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Gianthogweed posted:Which is exactly my point. There is no "Republicans are against social distancing and Democrats are for it". Your a dumb rear end, dumb rear end!
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