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Moo Cowabunga
Jun 15, 2009

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Shaggar posted:

tell us more about what your life was like before cars.

:newlol:

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rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
lol im old but seriously our overreliance on cars has essentially destroyed our society.

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe
I feel like anyone trying to imply past times were more safe and that kids could just run out and play all day is partially relying on ignorance

I mean sure there have been periods of worse times and maybe parents have just kind of overdone it sometimes but its certainly never been great

rotor posted:

lol im old but seriously our overreliance on cars has essentially destroyed our society.

this is true though

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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rotor posted:

lol im old but seriously our overreliance on cars has essentially destroyed our society.

like, i'd say that maybe 5-10% of my classmates got car shuttled by their parents and it was usually because the parents worked nearby

this insane thing where like 80% of parents today idle their SUVs in this 400 car queue in this specially designed serpentine parking lot just to drop their kids off blows my loving mind

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe
yeah I don't understand why we stopped using buses

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

Jonny 290 posted:

like, i'd say that maybe 5-10% of my classmates got car shuttled by their parents and it was usually because the parents worked nearby

this insane thing where like 80% of parents today idle their SUVs in this 400 car queue in this specially designed serpentine parking lot just to drop their kids off blows my loving mind

it's loving nuts around here. we live within walking distance of my kid's school, but the parents that drive there do exactly what you describe. it's chaos. at a bunch of other schools in the area cars stack waaaay out into the street. :thumbsup:

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

lancemantis posted:

yeah I don't understand why we stopped using buses

1) school of choice/vouchers
2) scary poors ride the bus!

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
the idea that you can't let your kids roam around outside because its too dangerous is insane

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe
yeah I live pretty close to our school and I'm pretty sure one of my neighbors still drives their kids there; I don't think the mom even has a job so she's just driving there and home

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
everyone says its because of kidnappers but it's not. Kidnapping rates, modulo divorce issues, has remainded essentially static since the 50s. It's about cars, and kids getting run over.

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

lancemantis posted:

I feel like anyone trying to imply past times were more safe and that kids could just run out and play all day is partially relying on ignorance

mmm, no. it was common practice in the prior to, oh, say, mid-70s or early 80s in America.

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
times were literally more safe for children playing outside.

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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ngl kinda proud of this one im still giggling

https://twitter.com/jonny290/status/1247589981515726848

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

rotor posted:

everyone says its because of kidnappers but it's not. Kidnapping rates, modulo divorce issues, has remainded essentially static since the 50s. It's about cars, and kids getting run over.

My kids live a 10min walk from school but they have to cross a bridge over a freeway with a 4-way stop everyone runs (and someone got killed there last year) so we have to do a 2 min drive to school instead

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

President Beep posted:

1) school of choice/vouchers
2) scary poors ride the bus!

3) socialism

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010

i remember reading some article where they looked at how far kids are allowed to roam from their house. a century ago, it was like ten miles. then gradually over time parents got more and more afraid, and neighbors more likely to call the cops because of your poor child enjoying playing outside instead of glazing in front of screens

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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rich parents that lived outside of my school district would rent a small apartment, not use it, and legally change their address to it a week before school registration started every year, so their kids could go to the rich white school

then they'd gently caress off to their lake mansion

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Broken Machine posted:

i remember reading some article where they looked at how far kids are allowed to roam from their house. a century ago, it was like ten miles. then gradually over time parents got more and more afraid, and neighbors more likely to call the cops because of your poor child enjoying playing outside instead of glazing in front of screens

I myself as a child would regularly roam miles from home to friends houses or walking to the pizza place to play video games

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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i rode a lovely huffy mountain bike 12 miles each way in 102 degree arkansas heat to make my weekly probation meetings after i got busted shoplifting a 28.8k modem from walmart

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
man i'm talkin about when i was like 8

NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
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shit wizard dad

rotor posted:

man i'm talkin about when i was like 8

Guy with the red flag would chase you out of the road

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

rotor posted:

once upon a time we'd just toss kids out of the house after breakfast and tell them to be home for dinner, but cars have made that far too dangerous.

now's definitely the right time to send them outside then! :jeb:


rotor posted:

mmm, no. it was common practice in the prior to, oh, say, mid-70s or early 80s in America.

i was a kid in the late 80s through early 90s and i definitely got the "go out and do something, just come back before it's dark, make sure you have some quarters for the pay phone" thing. i rode my bike the 5km to school every day from age 11 on. i think canadian cities are a little safer re. cars than american ones, though.

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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NoneMoreNegative posted:

Guy with the red flag would chase you out of the road

dude walking ahead of you carrying a lantern and ringing a bell

4lokos basilisk
Jul 17, 2008


Jonny 290 posted:

dude walking ahead of you carrying a lantern and ringing a bell

great idea, but signatures only come after your posts

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

President Beep posted:

looking forward to when they start recommending lucky rabbits feet and colloidal silver

I had a lady come in looking for something for her eyes because she had been using colloidal silver IN HER EYES

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

NoneMoreNegative posted:

Guy with the red flag would chase you out of the road

Jonny 290 posted:

dude walking ahead of you carrying a lantern and ringing a bell

loving lmao

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

echinopsis posted:

I had a lady come in looking for something for her eyes because she had been using colloidal silver IN HER EYES

lovely baby blues

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
i fell asleep drunk on the floor last night in the lounge listening to the the wall well i wasn’t really asleep i was just on the floor i guess I would have been asleep soon anyway my son came and tapped me on the foot to say turn down the music but he scared the poo poo out of me and I screamed aaaa aaa aaa before I realised it was my own child and then I tucked them into bed god I am such a mess my kids are too old now they’ll remember this poo poo 😓 never again

echinopsis fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Apr 7, 2020

DELETE CASCADE
Oct 25, 2017

i haven't washed my penis since i jerked it to a phtotograph of george w. bush in 2003
wait echi you have a KID? that is hosed

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
two boys 9&11 never forget

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
and god drat why do people respond that way lol like i’m sure it’s not because “oh because I didn’t think you were old enough”, I’m sure the reasons are because you think of me as a sterile clown

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe

rotor posted:

everyone says its because of kidnappers but it's not. Kidnapping rates, modulo divorce issues, has remainded essentially static since the 50s. It's about cars, and kids getting run over.

So yes, no more safe or dangerous

It’s all rose colored glasses and apocrypha

Like I’m sure people would look through rose colored guess about my lovely village and us all roaming wild, but any fondness for that is:

- conveniently forgetting the enabling of child neglect by taking advantage of our remoteness
- very poor monitoring and enforcement of property crime
- forgetting all the statutory rape and 40 year old townies loving 13 year olds and giving them
STDs
- suicides
- rampant teen death from alcohol abuse

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


lancemantis posted:

So yes, no more safe or dangerous

It’s all rose colored glasses and apocrypha

Like I’m sure people would look through rose colored guess about my lovely village and us all roaming wild, but any fondness for that is:

- conveniently forgetting the enabling of child neglect by taking advantage of our remoteness
- very poor monitoring and enforcement of property crime
- forgetting all the statutory rape and 40 year old townies loving 13 year olds and giving them
STDs
- suicides
- rampant teen death from alcohol abuse

and events like the town drunk getting hammered, shooting a gun in the air outside the school (which is k-12 in one building) and everyone going "oh that's just billy-ray"

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe
Well more like the town vagrant, but he didn’t have a gun

Hard to have a town drunk when like 90% of the population is alcoholics

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe
We used to steal his porno from whatever abandoned house he was camping out in at the time; that was probably pretty gross thinking back

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


as I remember things there were always degrees of alchoholics

everyone drank, but

some people drank after work
some drank during work
and some just drank

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


i don't remember my home town having a vagrant problem

between hud and church housing, I think anyone that needed a roof could get one

there were occasionally problems with people coming in from the river, but they always went back out after a couple days

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe
They took care of him eventually— buy buying him a bus ride out to Venice amazingly; probably fit right in

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

echinopsis posted:

I had a lady come in looking for something for her eyes because she had been using colloidal silver IN HER EYES

got an eyeshine for 20 menthol kools

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The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


this conversation reminded me

enjoy this map of households without running water

https://www.citylab.com/equity/2019/08/plumbing-poverty-water-access-insecurity-race-class-map/595390/

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