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The Fool posted:this conversation reminded me that map seems extremely suspect for louisiana, there are still tons of people who don't have pipes there (because they live in the swamp) maybe it's also got a population component or something
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The Fool posted:this conversation reminded me the res not having running water you say
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Apr 7, 2020 21:23
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The little house my mom grew up in didn't have running water, electicity, or trash collection, there were no zoning laws, and it was also a dry county. We went back to visit in the late 80s and 4/5 of those things were still true!
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Apr 7, 2020 21:26
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lancemantis posted:yeah I don't understand why we stopped using buses
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Apr 7, 2020 21:50
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went to the grocery store during lunch to pick up some essentials, like toothpaste im running low on, and cat treats because Bones will become intolerable if he runs out and i'm working from home. felt like i was robbing the place, hat, sunglasses, scarf covering my face. then i blew off the last 2 hours of work to make a huge pot of spaghetti sauce and meatballs.
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Apr 7, 2020 22:05
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Broken Machine posted:i remember reading some article where they looked at how far kids are allowed to roam from their house. a century ago, it was like ten miles. then gradually over time parents got more and more afraid, and neighbors more likely to call the cops because of your poor child enjoying playing outside instead of glazing in front of screens my grandmother grew up in northern new jersey. as a kid in the 30s she and her friends would walk across the newly-completed george washington bridge to manhattan, and if they all had a nickel for the toll, they could go into the city for the day. she would have been maybe 12 at the time
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Apr 7, 2020 22:31
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lancemantis posted:So yes, no more safe or dangerous Incorrect. What i said was the KIDNAP rates are essentially the same. What HAS changed is that the neighborhoods are no longer safe for kids to roam around in because of auto traffic. I know its hard to believe but some things actually do change. Things ARE different now. Some things for the worse, some for the better.
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Apr 7, 2020 22:37
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anyway i'm done seriousposting about this poo poo but it's a fact and it's super lovely and it's hosed up several generations now and it's almost entirely due to cars and anyway have a great day
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Apr 7, 2020 22:46
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they should bring back the bi-directional roundabout
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Apr 7, 2020 22:57
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cars are actually very helpful in a pandemic though, so theres that
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Apr 7, 2020 23:04
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I'm not sure the actual rate of kidnapping has anything to do with it, it's just that you don't want to be the one in a million or whatever
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Apr 7, 2020 23:06
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car culture and the fact that everyone owns a car is objectively bad and theres 0 justification for it. road diets and light rail for everyone please.
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Apr 7, 2020 23:10
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if they had public transit here i would use it. too late now though, society is ending and you better get good at welding, you’re going to need to reinforce the frame of your car
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Apr 7, 2020 23:16
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power botton posted:car culture and the fact that everyone owns a car is objectively bad and theres 0 justification for it. road diets and light rail for everyone please. I hate cars and I especially hate hearing people explain why they have to have one. "Well you see my house is 40 miles from my job, so it's impossible to get rid of it". Like.. I know you make 250,000 and I know there are apartments right here in downtown DC.
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Apr 7, 2020 23:17
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"It's not my fault I have to drive. I expended no effort, no thought, no political action, no energy, and no words attempting anything else, but you see I'm a victim which is why I had to buy this $60,000 sports car that gets 18MPG."
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Apr 7, 2020 23:19
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i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)
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Apr 7, 2020 23:33
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I have an electric car and it is pretty great. The lease ends in like 8 days and I have called them every single day trying to extend it because I literally cannot return it right now so I guess i get it for free then? shrug
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Apr 7, 2020 23:47
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in Detroit we have no public transit because our mayor (pick any in the past 40 years) was corrupt as hell
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Salt Fish posted:"It's not my fault I have to drive. I expended no effort, no thought, no political action, no energy, and no words attempting anything else, but you see I'm a victim which is why I had to buy this $60,000 sports car that gets 18MPG." lol my dude, my 540i gets 24mpg highway and 12mpg city city driving a big v8 is pure pig mode
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that being said my expedition gets 19 mpg on road trips, and honestly i can't cry about that.
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Stereotype posted:I have an electric car and it is pretty great. The lease ends in like 8 days and I have called them every single day trying to extend it because I literally cannot return it right now so I guess i get it for free then? shrug if you don't have it garaged they may send a tow truck, until you resolve this don't leave anything you care about in the car.
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Apr 8, 2020 00:08
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take the wheels off and put it on cinder blocks (1.99 each at home depot, which is an essential business) just to piss them off imo
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Apr 8, 2020 00:09
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my manual vw sportwagen gets me like 30 mpg and i drive 15 minutes to work when i actually have to drive, all highway. (0.25 miles to the on-ramp, 0.25 miles to the office building). i love my car
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Apr 8, 2020 00:12
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goons not understanding the two body problem is not surprising. very hard to optimize for being walking distance to two different locations.
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Apr 8, 2020 00:17
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Midjack posted:if you don't have it garaged they may send a tow truck, until you resolve this don't leave anything you care about in the car. repo man is such a strange movie
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Apr 8, 2020 00:19
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Midjack posted:if you don't have it garaged they may send a tow truck, until you resolve this don't leave anything you care about in the car. It is impossible to get a towtruck up my long winding driveway, a thing I learned when i was unable to get my car towed when it wouldn't start. it turns out electric cars have a normal car battery in them to do the startup sequence and if it dies the car doesn't start. luckily replacing that fixed it or otherwise I'm not sure how i would have gotten it out of my driveway.
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Apr 8, 2020 00:23
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just ban all cars immediately those who live correctly won't suffer
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Apr 8, 2020 00:25
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at this point in time yeah I could technically make things work without a car it might just suck a little I can walk or bike to the grocery store and work it just would take some time and risk
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Apr 8, 2020 00:26
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10 dollar gas would not significantly impact my life but would push a shitload of suburban idiots to campaign to make the WFH trend permanent. i think that's fair
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then again I guess the car ban would eliminate that risk
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Apr 8, 2020 00:29
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the annoying part for me right now is that I could ride my bike to work pretty easily in the morning but the way back in the evening is hell I kind of miss my old apartment for that reason; nice and easy riding
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Apr 8, 2020 00:32
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Jonny 290 posted:10 dollar gas would not significantly impact my life but would push a shitload of suburban idiots to campaign to make the WFH trend permanent. i think that's fair same. i fill my tank up like once every 2 weeks and it rules. pump the price up to $20/gallon, less people on the road the better.
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Apr 8, 2020 00:32
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some people can't avoid driving in the us. i have to travel on a regular basis, and public transit to some destinations is either not an option, or increases travel time significantly to where it's not feasible. if it's realistic to take transit, i do. if i was in europe, i'd take transit because it's actually comprehensive. it's great to encourage driving less, more fuel efficiency and transit and so on, but there are also farmers in rural areas driving around to help feed urbanites so that they don't have to
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so lemme just walk this back a lil. I'm not saying destroy all cars, although I know some people are. I'm saying we've prioritized efficient car traffic over virtually every other public need and created a wasteland where you can't walk, play or do anything other than drive or park.
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Apr 8, 2020 00:37
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:in Detroit we have no public transit because our mayor (pick any in the past 40 years) was corrupt as hell disrespectful to detroit bus drivers getting killed by ‘rona detroit doesn’t have unified regional transit because l brooks was an enormous racist and suburbanites living in fear of Those People crossing eight mile and doing crimes in bloomfield or downriver (lol)
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rotor posted:so lemme just walk this back a lil. I'm not saying destroy all cars, although I know some people are. I'm saying we've prioritized efficient car traffic over virtually every other public need and created a wasteland where you can't walk, play or do anything other than drive or park. yeah; i'm in a city with good mixed-mode options and good management of it. it's safe biking, walking and there are a bunch of non-car alternatives. it'd be nice to see that and way better mass transit everywhere in the states, particularly between big cities
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PCjr sidecar posted:disrespectful to detroit bus drivers getting killed by ‘rona it wasnt l brooks patterson's fault the commuter train was closed down
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:it wasnt l brooks patterson's fault the commuter train was closed down somehow coleman young’s fault the suburban transit authority that detroit didn’t own or run shut down the underused rail line or the new rta featuring commuter rail in 2016 that oakland and macomb voters killed
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Apr 8, 2020 01:29
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:in Detroit we have no public transit because our mayor (pick any in the past 40 years) was corrupt as hell i ride the bus to and from the cbd in detroit
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Beamed posted:i ride the bus to and from the cbd in detroit nice. what do you think of the woodward light rail line? i recall that getting thwarted for years. jelly that we don't have anything like that on the west side of the state. i'm sure i've mentioned this before, but the street we live on did have a streetcar line in the past.
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