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SimonCat
Aug 12, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice
Vote for Biden or we'll shoot this dog.

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maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
Lol idiot we know the dog was alreadys shot

BurningChrome
Jan 18, 2020

They said she cooked her own cancers for people who crossed her, rococo custom variations that took years to kill you. They said a lot of things about Chrome, none of them at all reassuring.

shame on an IGA posted:

Go to the local poo poo. All of it. I got a seat on the state party executive committe a few weeks ago entirely because I was the only person under 70 at the county convention.

I'm gonna have to figure that out for NYC then.

SimonCat posted:

Vote for Biden or we'll shoot this dog.




maffew buildings posted:

Lol idiot we know the dog was alreadys shot

BurningChrome
Jan 18, 2020

They said she cooked her own cancers for people who crossed her, rococo custom variations that took years to kill you. They said a lot of things about Chrome, none of them at all reassuring.

Mr. Nice! posted:

I'm going to vote for biden because I understand our two party system. I'm going to make sure everyone I personally know votes because it's important, and I loving hope there are some people worthwhile elsewhere on the ballot I can recommend.

With that said, I do not care for Joe Biden, and I cannot fight for him. I can't argue for him, because I cannot fight for a rapist piece of poo poo. I will not volunteer with the democratic party as I have the past four years because they no longer represent me. I don't genuinely believe that they will win in the fall. The party does not support me and is beholden to the exact same handful of billionaires that are running the republican party.

Good luck calling people selfish assholes for not wanting to support a rapist racist piece of poo poo, though.

An actual good post

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.
Trump vs. Biden: Welcome to the Re-cistance

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?

Chichevache posted:

Trump vs. Biden: Welcome to the Re-cistance

What the gently caress even is this post

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
You don't get to poo poo all over people for years if not decades and then throw a fit when those people no longer support you. I mean you can, as this thread shows, but it's not going to win you an election, as 2016 showed.

Besides Biden has repeatedly told people who disagree with him not to vote for him. Congrats Joe, we found a policy we can agree on!

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.

Mr. Nice! posted:

I'm going to vote for biden because I understand our two party system. I'm going to make sure everyone I personally know votes because it's important, and I loving hope there are some people worthwhile elsewhere on the ballot I can recommend.

With that said, I do not care for Joe Biden, and I cannot fight for him. I can't argue for him, because I cannot fight for a rapist piece of poo poo. I will not volunteer with the democratic party as I have the past four years because they no longer represent me. I don't genuinely believe that they will win in the fall. The party does not support me and is beholden to the exact same handful of billionaires that are running the republican party.

Good luck calling people selfish assholes for not wanting to support a rapist racist piece of poo poo, though.

I'd still say its worth it to try at the local level. The tea party just didn't hit the national stage at the first crack. In my home town, we had a movement very similar to the tea party start to hit the county seats WAYYY before I heard about the official tea party.

If you want to move the big DNC with progressive candidates - get them at the local and state level. They have a much more direct impact on schools, roads, public transit, rent control, etc. I get the big Bernie ideas aren't going to happen and that sucks (I've never voted for Biden in a primary), but please continue that push to get the right people for down ticket races.

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

McNally posted:

What the gently caress even is this post

swing and a miss as usual

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

c-spam cannot afford



TCD posted:

I'd still say its worth it to try at the local level. The tea party just didn't hit the national stage at the first crack. In my home town, we had a movement very similar to the tea party start to hit the county seats WAYYY before I heard about the official tea party.

If you want to move the big DNC with progressive candidates - get them at the local and state level. They have a much more direct impact on schools, roads, public transit, rent control, etc. I get the big Bernie ideas aren't going to happen and that sucks (I've never voted for Biden in a primary), but please continue that push to get the right people for down ticket races.

My local situation is unchangeable. Gerrymandering at the federal level has me in a progressive's district as I live in a black part of town so I'm tallied up with Jacksonville instead of people down the street from me. The other federal district (and more populous portion) is either chuds or centrist democrats. It is not possible to get progressive persons elected locally despite a lot of effort because the voting base, even if technically democratic, is extremely conservative. I really just need to get out of north florida because I cannot change how people are here.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

Mr. Nice! posted:

My local situation is unchangeable. Gerrymandering at the federal level has me in a progressive's district as I live in a black part of town so I'm tallied up with Jacksonville instead of people down the street from me. The other federal district (and more populous portion) is either chuds or centrist democrats. It is not possible to get progressive persons elected locally despite a lot of effort because the voting base, even if technically democratic, is extremely conservative. I really just need to get out of north florida because I cannot change how people are here.

Gerrymandering owns, I have to drive three miles to my polling place but there's a polling place for a different precinct literally across the street from my house

Time Crisis Actor
Apr 28, 2002

by Hand Knit
I’m voting for who’s going to replace Ginsburg

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
lol its going to be 2016 all over again

BurningChrome
Jan 18, 2020

They said she cooked her own cancers for people who crossed her, rococo custom variations that took years to kill you. They said a lot of things about Chrome, none of them at all reassuring.

ded posted:

lol its going to be 2016 all over again

Yeah and we deserve it

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LtCol J. Krusinski
May 7, 2013
I wonder if we have even a single pro trump gipper? We’ve got our conservatives, but none have any support or love for trump and most have said they didn’t vote for him. (I’m inclined to believe them.)

My family admits to voting for him, but I don’t think I’ve met a goon in the wild that voted trump and will admit it. Then again I read GiP and a handful of carefully curated bookmarked threads from other sub forums. So I don’t really have my finger on SA’s pulse or anything.

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?

LtCol J. Krusinski posted:

I wonder if we have even a single pro trump gipper? We’ve got our conservatives, but none have any support or love for trump and most have said they didn’t vote for him. (I’m inclined to believe them.)

My family admits to voting for him, but I don’t think I’ve met a goon in the wild that voted trump and will admit it. Then again I read GiP and a handful of carefully curated bookmarked threads from other sub forums. So I don’t really have my finger on SA’s pulse or anything.

If we did I'm sure they were either driven out or keep it to themselves.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

c-spam cannot afford



LtCol J. Krusinski posted:

I wonder if we have even a single pro trump gipper? We’ve got our conservatives, but none have any support or love for trump and most have said they didn’t vote for him. (I’m inclined to believe them.)

My family admits to voting for him, but I don’t think I’ve met a goon in the wild that voted trump and will admit it. Then again I read GiP and a handful of carefully curated bookmarked threads from other sub forums. So I don’t really have my finger on SA’s pulse or anything.

We used to have a loud one but he hosed off in late 2016 early 2017 and just posts in gbs, c-spam, and tfr now, iirc.

e: vikingskull iirc

LtCol J. Krusinski
May 7, 2013

McNally posted:

If we did I'm sure they were either driven out or keep it to themselves.

How progressive of us.

Edit: Actually that’s kind of hilarious and tribal of us.

LtCol J. Krusinski fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Apr 8, 2020

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

BurningChrome posted:

Yeah and we deserve it

No we loving don't.

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

No we loving don't.

:911:

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned

Mr. Nice! posted:

We used to have a loud one but he hosed off in late 2016 early 2017 and just posts in gbs, c-spam, and tfr now, iirc.

e: vikingskull iirc

Him and another fellow were alienated and shunned from the SA NASCAR community for being CHUD types. Even NASCAR folks here swing left

Source - my favorite driver is the dude from Mexico

Kawasaki Nun
Jul 16, 2001

by Reene

BurningChrome posted:

Yeah and we deserve it

Everyone who lost food stamps in the midst of a global recession and work stoppage deserved it, says brilliant commentator.

Sounds like you have some powerful insights that you dont hesitate to share. You're definitely not a moron.

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Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
I mean, I get why Kawasaki Nun is so pissy. You can get shithammered in C-SPAM for even suggesting that maybe Bernie Sanders (PBUH) isn't the only possible answer and D&D isn't much better, and it's incredibly frustrating to hear people screaming that Trump is godawful but they won't vote for the opposing candidate because ~*~reasons~*~.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

I mean, I'm in SC where it literally doesn't matter. I'mma go protest vote twice for y'all

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

I mean, I get why Kawasaki Nun is so pissy. You can get shithammered in C-SPAM for even suggesting that maybe Bernie Sanders (PBUH) isn't the only possible answer and D&D isn't much better, and it's incredibly frustrating to hear people screaming that Trump is godawful but they won't vote for the opposing candidate because ~*~reasons~*~.

Some people want more change than simply pretending Trump didn't happen. Supporting the guy who brags about building the systems we rail against is a non-starter.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
And keeping Trump in office will achieve more change than throwing him out how? No accelerationist takes please.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

And keeping Trump in office will achieve more change than throwing him out how? No accelerationist takes please.

We want change. Joe Biden isn't giving us that. He had made that perfectly clear.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
That's not an answer to my question.

SquirrelyPSU
May 27, 2003


Vincent Van Goatse posted:

And keeping Trump in office will achieve more change than throwing him out how? No accelerationist takes please.

Well, I mean, there will certainly be an acceleration

A Bad Poster
Sep 25, 2006
Seriously, shut the fuck up.

:dukedog:
Trump is change, just not for the better for most people on earth.

Know what does need to change and is entirely within the DNC's control? Same day primaries across the country. This slapdash bullshit needs to end, I don't give a gently caress if New Hampshire and Iowa get mad about it. An artificially inflated importance of a segment of an electorate is bad for democracy.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

A national primary would be awful but they should absolutely refocus to have states they might actually have a chance of winning go first. Yes, I'm aware I'm further disenfranchsing myself but it 100% doesn't matter what SC dems think because they will never, ever deliver electors in november

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

LtCol J. Krusinski posted:

I wonder if we have even a single pro trump gipper? We’ve got our conservatives, but none have any support or love for trump and most have said they didn’t vote for him. (I’m inclined to believe them.)

My family admits to voting for him, but I don’t think I’ve met a goon in the wild that voted trump and will admit it. Then again I read GiP and a handful of carefully curated bookmarked threads from other sub forums. So I don’t really have my finger on SA’s pulse or anything.

they all left for tfr

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

I mean, I get why Kawasaki Nun is so pissy. You can get shithammered in C-SPAM for even suggesting that maybe Bernie Sanders (PBUH) isn't the only possible answer and D&D isn't much better, and it's incredibly frustrating to hear people screaming that Trump is godawful but they won't vote for the opposing candidate because ~*~reasons~*~.

~*~reasons~*~ being the whole rape thing

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

Have yall ever looked at how many layers there are between primary voters and the actual DNC?

"The Party’s basic organization, from local to state level, is:
• PrecinctVolunteer
• PrecinctCommitteeperson (one per precinct, plusVice-Committeeperson)
• CountyCommittee andCountyChair (elected by fellow PCs and VCs)
• DistrictCommittee and DistrictChair (elected by fellow CountyChairs, Vice Chairs)
• State Committee (composed of DistrictChairs andVice Chairs, DNC members and
constituencycaucuses)
• State Executive Committee and State Chair (elected by State Committee members; Deputy
Chairs appointed byChair)"

From there the state committee elects who they send to the national committee. So we didn't vote for Tom Perez, you MAYBE voted for a precinct member who voted for a county member who voted for a district member who voted for a state member who voted on whom to send to the DNC who voted to elect Tom Perez the chair of the party.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

Ba-dam ba-DUMMMMMM

PookBear posted:

they all left for tfr

There’s undoubtedly some conservatives in TFR but Cyrano has done a great job in letting the chuds know they’re not welcome. Hell, there’s a thread for the Socialist Rifle Association, another one for LGBT shooters, and another for calling out racist/sexist poo poo in the firearms industry.

Brute Squad
Dec 20, 2006

Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human race

PookBear posted:

Have yall ever looked at how many layers there are between primary voters and the actual DNC?

"The Party’s basic organization, from local to state level, is:
• PrecinctVolunteer
• PrecinctCommitteeperson (one per precinct, plusVice-Committeeperson)
• CountyCommittee andCountyChair (elected by fellow PCs and VCs)
• DistrictCommittee and DistrictChair (elected by fellow CountyChairs, Vice Chairs)
• State Committee (composed of DistrictChairs andVice Chairs, DNC members and
constituencycaucuses)
• State Executive Committee and State Chair (elected by State Committee members; Deputy
Chairs appointed byChair)"

From there the state committee elects who they send to the national committee. So we didn't vote for Tom Perez, you MAYBE voted for a precinct member who voted for a county member who voted for a district member who voted for a state member who voted on whom to send to the DNC who voted to elect Tom Perez the chair of the party.

So, they're like any other national organization or large bureaucracy?

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

PookBear posted:

~*~reasons~*~ being the whole rape thing

It started long before those accusations and wasn't limited to Biden. Elizabeth Warren was pilloried as a conservative sleeper agent because she was a Republican decades ago.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

I was a Warren supporter, then she walked back on Medicare for all and supported the coup in Bolivia, and I realized the Bernie Bros were right again and switched. And just to preempt the inevitable reply, yes, saying "I'll send a bill for Medicare for all...after midterms" is a walk back unless you were literally born yesterday.

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

Brute Squad posted:

So, they're like any other national organization or large bureaucracy?

Yeah but most international conglomerates don't tend to imply they're democratic

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PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

It started long before those accusations and wasn't limited to Biden. Elizabeth Warren was pilloried as a conservative sleeper agent because she was a Republican decades ago.

I preferred warren to bernie and have said as much in the current events thread. I realize this is hard to understand but I would have voted for literally any dem candidate that wasn't a rapist or bloomberg.

And if it comes out that the rape allegation is unfounded I'll vote for biden while pissing, making GBS threads and vomiting all over myself in the ballot box but I'll do it.

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