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Davros1 posted:That's got to be a shock to discover in the movie he's essentially the villain. Same thing with Ghostbusters and Slimer
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feedmyleg posted:C'mon, y'all: Oh poo poo, William Stout was one of my favourite palaeontological artists when I was a kid. I loved this book: He's also done a ton of film design work (Pan's Labyrinth, the giant cockroach alien in MIB, the hosed up monsters in The Mist, those new characters in the old He-Man movie that everyone hated) as well as a ton of storyboard work (Raiders of the Lost Ark , etc) and posters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Stout https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0832898/?ref_=nmbio_bio_nm
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BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:Same thing with Ghostbusters and Slimer At least Slimer wasn't a pedophile.
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SCheeseman posted:At least Slimer wasn't a pedophile. Never occurred to me that bj was grooming Lydia. Does this mean Little Monsters has the same problem or maybe Monsters Inc? How deep does this go?
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Tars Tarkas posted:Jurassic World 3 Lego set spoilers: That's from the animated TV series that came out last year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKPX_XtkQ6A https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lego_Jurassic_World:_Legend_of_Isla_Nublar
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BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:Never occurred to me that bj was grooming Lydia. Beetlejuice tries to coerce a minor into marriage in exchange for a favor.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Beetlejuice tries to coerce a minor into marriage in exchange for a favor.
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Young Freud posted:The death of both syndicated cartoons and Saturday morning blocs, as well as the proliferation of cable, which gave rise to Nickelodeon, Disney, and Cartoon Network monopolizing children's entertainment for the most part. And not to mention the lucrative merchandising market. Why work with some producers to make a, say, Dredd G-rated cartoon and have to split the toy profits with guys who own the IP? And then when the producers back out of the deal, you suddenly have 13-100 episodes that you can't do anything with (unless you renegotiate with the money guys to allow the opportunity to make more money), and a toy line you can't profit off of. But if you go with some brand new, never before seen pilot from some guy fresh out of CalArts, you can completely own the idea and make even more revenue for the network, and forever own the IP in perpetuity, and eventually revive it as some nostalgia bait. Case in point, Cartoon Network made hand over fist with Adventure Time, and they will continue to forever as long as people will pay for it (which might have slowed down, but HBO max hopes to revive that market). I'm pretty sure the only licensed shows happening these days are either Superhero cartoons (and that happens because Disney owns both Marvel and several Channels, while Warner owns both DC and Cartoon Network), or shows produced by lego. And I imagine lego is footing a huge portion of the bill, as they own the toys and the factories making the show. And thus, the shows become the most lucrative commercials there could be, provided they hit their market. And in case of Lego, they're in a very similar position as the cartoon channels these days. Take a look at the sets lego lego releases these days: Marvel, DC, Star Wars, Minecraft, Overwatch, Harry Potter, etc. A lot of IP they do not own, and some traditional set lines that aren't nearly as pop-off-the-shelf exciting as the licensed ones, like city and creator. So a non-IP line of toys that can connect with kids in the same way the IP toys do are a huge vector for major profits, and thus how you have over 10 years of 'Ninjago' and 'Lego Friends' toys and cartoons.
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Detective No. 27 posted:Spielberg produced like half the Kids WB cartoons at the time. Tiny Toons, Animaniacs, Freakazoid... Uh... That one cartoon about the dogs of various world leaders being a superhero team. There was a short in Animaniacs iirc with the Warner Siblings, Pinky and the Brain, and Freakazoid arguing over which are Spielberg's favourites. And do you mean Road Rovers? That show was apparently super weird, and not just for being a TMNT knockoff with dogs, but one that was Disney styled with musical numbers. (While the Disney take on TMNT was super weird in a different way, The Mighty Ducks. I was a big fan)
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SomeJazzyRat posted:And not to mention the lucrative merchandising market. Why work with some producers to make a, say, Dredd G-rated cartoon and have to split the toy profits with guys who own the IP? And then when the producers back out of the deal, you suddenly have 13-100 episodes that you can't do anything with (unless you renegotiate with the money guys to allow the opportunity to make more money), and a toy line you can't profit off of. But if you go with some brand new, never before seen pilot from some guy fresh out of CalArts, you can completely own the idea and make even more revenue for the network, and forever own the IP in perpetuity, and eventually revive it as some nostalgia bait. Case in point, Cartoon Network made hand over fist with Adventure Time, and they will continue to forever as long as people will pay for it (which might have slowed down, but HBO max hopes to revive that market). Cartoon Network is a funny case since for a while it seemed like they really hated any show that they didn't make, and were constantly screwing over DC shows like Young Justice for flimsy reasons. (until Teen Titans Go came along anyway, now that literally makes up 90% of their schedule) To the point where Hasbro got sick of their poo poo and ended Transformers Animated prematurely to go make their own network, The Hub, though I don't think anything on it besides My Little Pony (yes, that one) was really a breakout hit and iirc they rebranded to Discovery Family.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:There was a short in Animaniacs iirc with the Warner Siblings, Pinky and the Brain, and Freakazoid arguing over which are Spielberg's favourites. Yeah, Road Rovers. Their leader was Bill Clinton's dog. The only scene I vividly remember was the Russian dog reading Go Dog Go. I now appreciate Spielberg cramming in characters that no child would like or find funny but are amusing to Spielberg. The Huntsman was basically "why if Charlton Heston was a useless ripoff of Green Arrow?" Or having Jack Valenti explain the MPAA.
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It was so long before I realise The Brain was really Orson Welles.
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Through the 80s and 90s it's kinda crazy how 'TMNT knockoff' practically became its own genre. Street Sharks, Extreme Dinosaurs, The Mighty Ducks, Road Rovers, Dinosaucers (though that struck me as taking a lot of Transformers inspiration too), and probably Samurai Pizza Cats. (in the original anime, they're ninjas, who are routinely shot out of a cannon. And TMNT was always popular in Japan, I'm pretty sure)
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Through the 80s and 90s it's kinda crazy how 'TMNT knockoff' practically became its own genre. Street Sharks, Extreme Dinosaurs, The Mighty Ducks, Road Rovers, Dinosaucers (though that struck me as taking a lot of Transformers inspiration too), and probably Samurai Pizza Cats. (in the original anime, they're ninjas, who are routinely shot out of a cannon. And TMNT was always popular in Japan, I'm pretty sure) I was listening to an episode of Retronauts about TMNT, and I think it was Bob Mackey who recounted an interview with the lead designer of the first TMNT game by Konami and he kept saying "Why turtles!?!?" Just utterly baffled at this weird American franchise. But it made Konami tons of cash so they kept producing the games.
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Super Dan posted:How many Jeff Goldblum toys were there? This one and probably one for ID4? Or was there a Brundlefly action figure? If you go by Lego there's a bunch of actors who have multiple minifigs of themselves. Then there's the Disney toys-to-life game where there are three different Johnny Depp characters for some reason.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Cartoon Network is a funny case since for a while it seemed like they really hated any show that they didn't make, and were constantly screwing over DC shows like Young Justice for flimsy reasons. (until Teen Titans Go came along anyway, now that literally makes up 90% of their schedule) To the point where Hasbro got sick of their poo poo and ended Transformers Animated prematurely to go make their own network, The Hub, though I don't think anything on it besides My Little Pony (yes, that one) was really a breakout hit and iirc they rebranded to Discovery Family. The Hub also had Dan VS (which owned), which was baffling because it was an adult swim-lite type show that aired on a network whose target audience was 8 and under.
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Mywhatacleanturtle posted:The Hub also had Dan VS (which owned), which was baffling because it was an adult swim-lite type show that aired on a network whose target audience was 8 and under. Gen z has all grown up on sarcasm like that and teen titans go
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Dan Vs was criminally underrated.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Through the 80s and 90s it's kinda crazy how 'TMNT knockoff' practically became its own genre. Street Sharks, Extreme Dinosaurs, The Mighty Ducks, Road Rovers, Dinosaucers (though that struck me as taking a lot of Transformers inspiration too), and probably Samurai Pizza Cats. (in the original anime, they're ninjas, who are routinely shot out of a cannon. And TMNT was always popular in Japan, I'm pretty sure) It's fascinating watching cartoons chase the fad whenever theres a big breakout hit and make all these near-identical imitations. You already mentioned TMNT, and before that G.I joe had inspired a trillion "Giant Good Guy military organization vs Giant Bad Guy Military Organization" shows. And after TMNT Power Rangers had producers salivating to buy the rights to a Japanese Toku show to splice with footage of American actors.
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galagazombie posted:And after TMNT Power Rangers had producers salivating to buy the rights to a Japanese Toku show to splice with footage of American actors. To this day I still have trouble accepting that Big Bad Beetleborgs actually existed and wasn't just some weird half-remembered fever dream I had when I was a kid. Alan Smithee posted:I watched the beatlejuice cartoon growing up well before I saw te movie as an adult This, but for Starship Troopers. Man that was an experience. MechanicalTomPetty fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Apr 11, 2020 |
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:To this day I still have trouble accepting that Big Bad Beetleborgs actually existed and wasn't just some weird half-remembered fever dream I had when I was a kid. See I read Starship Troopers first and was upset the movie didn’t have power armor but had Casper van Dien instead. All the other horrible poo poo Verhoeven left out was fine though and turning it into hilarious satire was obviously way better than genocidally racist military robots and fetishistic child abuse played straight.
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:To this day I still have trouble accepting that Superhuman Samurai Syber Squad actually existed and wasn't just some weird half-remembered fever dream I had when I was a kid.
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:To this day I still have trouble accepting that Tattooed Teenage Alien Fighters from Beverly Hills actually existed and wasn't just some weird half-remembered fever dream I had when I was a kid.
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:To this day I still have trouble accepting that C.O.W.-boys of Moo Mesa actually existed and wasn't just some weird half-remembered fever dream I had when I was a kid.
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Detective No. 27 posted:I was listening to an episode of Retronauts about TMNT, and I think it was Bob Mackey who recounted an interview with the lead designer of the first TMNT game by Konami and he kept saying "Why turtles!?!?" Just utterly baffled at this weird American franchise. But it made Konami tons of cash so they kept producing the games. The funny thing is that the very start of the franchise was Eastman and Laird making notebook drawings, and they decided to draw Bruce Lee as the most ridiculous animal he could possibly be- so they drew a turtle-man with nunchucks. And it grew from there. Absurdity is kind of at the very core of it.
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:To this day I am totally okay with the fact M.A.S.K. was real and I genuinely look forwards to the inevitable lovely live action version.
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:To this day I still have trouble accepting that Butt-Ugly Martians actually existed and wasn't just some weird half-remembered fever dream I had when I was a kid.
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:To this day I still have trouble accepting that Mummies Alive! actually existed and wasn't just some weird half-remembered fever dream I had when I was a kid.
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:To this day I still have trouble accepting that Monster Force actually existed and wasn't just some weird half-remembered fever dream I had when I was a kid.
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:To this day I still have trouble accepting that Mortal Kombat: Defenders of the Realm actually existed and wasn't just some weird half-remembered fever dream I had when I was a kid. Doggles fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Apr 12, 2020 |
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:To this day I still have trouble accepting that Van-Pires actually existed and wasn't just some weird half-remembered fever dream I had when I was a kid.
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:To this day I still have trouble accepting that Bucky O'Hare actually existed and wasn't just some weird half-remembered fever dream I had when I was a kid.
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Ooooh my god Ahhh it gets better Yes, that Jonathan Davis.
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Calamity Jane Premiering in 17 weeks
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The funny thing is that the very start of the franchise was Eastman and Laird making notebook drawings, and they decided to draw Bruce Lee as the most ridiculous animal he could possibly be- so they drew a turtle-man with nunchucks. And it grew from there. Absurdity is kind of at the very core of it. Recollect that there was a burst of satirical anthromorphic comics in the late 80s maybe? Dunno if TMNT was in the middle or beginning of it, but there were ninja badgers and pig soldiers, etc.
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:To this day I still have trouble accepting that a cartoon where Wayne Gretzky and I want to say Michael Jordan and also an American football player have super powers related to their sports all team up to fight crime or something seriously why was this even aired in the UK actually existed and wasn't just some weird half-remembered fever dream I had when I was a kid.
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Bo Jackson was the third one (he was baseball and football) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTcJKANr5dE
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The Jersey was an actual show on Disney channel where the protagonists jumped into the bodies of actual sportsmen and sportswomen who actually factually acted REALLY BADLY in front of a camera because the premise of the show was that a magical Jersey would let you live a few moments of the lives of your fantasy football picks to teach you about friendship or w/e.
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Mywhatacleanturtle posted:The Jersey was an actual show on Disney channel where the protagonists jumped into the bodies of actual sportsmen and sportswomen who actually factually acted REALLY BADLY in front of a camera because the premise of the show was that a magical Jersey would let you live a few moments of the lives of your fantasy football picks to teach you about friendship or w/e. I remember this show, it was set in St. Louis, Missouri, and I think they even made a super bowl episode during one of the years the St. Louis Rams won the Super Bowl, but they were 100% not filming in St. Louis.
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