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https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1249373172690046977 I know people don't take the model underlying this very seriously because they they think it's underestimating, but I'm guessing that would be true across the board, so you could still use it for comparison's sake. What the gently caress is happening in Sweden and the Netherlands?
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surf rock posted:What the gently caress is happening in Sweden and the Netherlands? The power of herd immunity, my friend.
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Craig K posted:good lord almighty is this what racists are blaming it on? this literally looks nicer than my local farmer's market something something chinese eat bats, i say, cramming another handful of home-cured marmot into my redneck mouth basically, yes. I didn't even see anyone selling unpasteurized milk or handing out anti-vax pamphlets which are both mainstays of farmers markets in my area
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Craig K posted:good lord almighty is this what racists are blaming it on? this literally looks nicer than my local farmer's market Of course not. They base it on individual shock videos of some asian who may or may not be chinese grabbing a live frog out of a bucket on the street and biting the head off, slurping up the guts. A good ol' boy I work with has all of them. Any video of an asian eating something gross at a street market is being passed around as if that's how everyone over there eats. Same with any racism, one example of behavior being used as a broad brush to paint everyone.
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surf rock posted:https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1249373172690046977 I have no clue what this model does, but Italy currently stands at 320 deaths per million, and The Netherlands at 150. So for some reason it thinks there will hardly be any more deaths in Italy, while The Netherlands will increase almost tenfold. Don't think there really is any sane way to justify that.
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Smart people are going to figure out treatment for this before we have a vaccine. This has all the hallmarks of a disease we haven't figured out yet. The reports from ERs of a dastardly, unpredictable disease - unexpected progression of disease. Weird symptologies. Not fully understanding how contagion even works. Someone is going to figure it out and be hailed a hero, while embarrassing the gently caress out of everyone else. My money is on a lady from New Jersey. But until then it's hellworld.
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PederP posted:Smart people are going to figure out treatment for this before we have a vaccine. This has all the hallmarks of a disease we haven't figured out yet. The reports from ERs of a dastardly, unpredictable disease - unexpected progression of disease. Weird symptologies. Not fully understanding how contagion even works. Someone is going to figure it out and be hailed a hero, while embarrassing the gently caress out of everyone else. My money is on a lady from New Jersey. In the ultimate irony the effective treatment will involve crystals.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:In the ultimate irony the effective treatment will involve crystals. I will die before I ever accept this happening
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what if the effective treatment is eating a bat
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Can't someone just get all the Infinity Stones and snap this all away? Or just get all the Dragon Balls, that would be easier.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:I will die before I ever accept this happening this. see you in the next life then friend
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surf rock posted:https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1249373172690046977 Prime Minister (paraphrasing): "I trust that people will behave rationally and sensibly and follow the guidelines during the pandemic. Also if your boss tells you to work in unsafe conditions I'm sure you can figure this out together, y'all are grown ups" - whoops pandemic
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I cannot for the life of me understand how anyone ever thought that West and East Pakistan could have possibly worked as one country. The British didn't originally want to create them. As part of the 'get out of india ASAP plan' the idea was for them to be under a big federal indian state, but the guy at head of the indian muslims, Ali Jinnah [a british educated lawyer] demanded both Pakistans be a single separate state. The brits agreed mostly to avoid them making a fuss, but the orginal idea was for the indian/pakistani governments to be closer collaborators, a bit like the EU. This however went to poo poo when the rushed british partition and xenophobia led to mass ethnic cleansing between muslims/hindus, which obviously sent relations down the gutter [and took the people at the head of the pakistan/indian indepedance movements - mostly british educated liberals]. To top it all off, Jinnah dies a year later so doesn't even get to try to keep together this state he creates.
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According to German studies, plasma injection with blood from immunized people actually seems to be a reasonable way to fight it. That would be quite good, because the potential supply of that stuff is growing daily and injecting blood plasma is a comparatively safe treatment.
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ZombieLenin posted:Maybe, my silver lining is that this demonstrates to people once and for all how important the people who get paid the least are to the functioning of society and preservation of life, from gas station attendants, to grocery store stickers, to the people who work in paper mills... Yeah this. Up until now, gas station attendants got paid $8/hr because hahaha gently caress you. If the economy recovers it won't they will be able to demand $25/hr because they're putting themselves in danger.
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cant cook creole bream posted:According to German studies, plasma injection with blood from immunized people actually seems to be a reasonable way to fight it. Have a link? I know of several university hospitals here which put out a call for plasma a week or two ago, but I haven't heard of any results.
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Craig K posted:good lord almighty is this what racists are blaming it on? this literally looks nicer than my local farmer's market LloydDobler posted:Of course not. They base it on individual shock videos of some asian who may or may not be chinese grabbing a live frog out of a bucket on the street and biting the head off, slurping up the guts. A good ol' boy I work with has all of them. Any video of an asian eating something gross at a street market is being passed around as if that's how everyone over there eats. While showing an average market is productive in that it shows that not all markets are bad really the worse markets are the ones that are a problem and that need to be improved and or shut down. It's easy to hand wave any complaints as racism because it's often times at the very least partly that. Often times more than just partly. Can improvements be made? Absolutely. Are they necessary? Probably not for that market but I'd certainly see it as a good thing. As far as that being average? That doesn't seem great to me but that may be because my perception if tainted by grout. Grout never seems clean. As far as America goes we aren't great either. Seems to me leafy greens are always being recalled for something. Also everyone loving wash your hands. edit: I'm just assuming about the worse markets the only video I saw that wasn't that one wasn't actually China so yeah. Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 19:51 on Apr 12, 2020 |
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ZombieLenin posted:Maybe, my silver lining is that this demonstrates to people once and for all how important the people who get paid the least are to the functioning of society and preservation of life, from gas station attendants, to grocery store stickers, to the people who work in paper mills... The American South went to war in order to preserve their ability to continue chattel slavery. They believed that they’d get support from industrializing Britain because King Cotton would compel help from Europe. They were under no illusions about whether or not slaves in the cotton fields were essential workers. The key word that American hyper inequality uses to decide if you are worth paying is not “essential” it’s “replaceable”. And then some bootstrap mythologizing about how anyone who wants to be rich in this country can be, so long as they try hard enough. America needs a new story about how it functions, one that leads to less inequality but that doesn’t sound like socialism or communism because those ideas are so thoroughly tied into decades of conflict that they are irredeemable in the eyes of most voters. Maybe this disease is the beginning of that lesson. Maybe climate change is. I wish us luck.
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Ika posted:Have a link? I know of several university hospitals here which put out a call for plasma a week or two ago, but I haven't heard of any results. Hmm. I might have jumped the gun there. Sorry. Earlier today I was reading an article about some university hospital which was already doing it to 19 patients and the doctors were quite impressed with the early results. But I can't find that anymore. And it's not a rigorous study with a double blind test yet. But those have started. I guess, we will see some results in two weeks. If the group with the real plasma gets healthy way faster, that's a significant bit of data. But the important part is that an attempt of passive imunization will have a way smaller risk of long term side effects, compared to a new form of active immunization, or hydrochloride.
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PederP posted:Someone is going to figure it out and be hailed a hero, while embarrassing the gently caress out of everyone else. My money is on a lady from New Jersey. If that happens, it will be the usual media idiocy where they pin the work of a team to a single person to create some weird "hero" narrative. Also, it's not going to be someone you've ever heard of before.
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China is quietly engaging in a crackdown of Black people due to racist fears that they’re spreading the virus. https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/10/china/africans-guangzhou-china-coronavirus-hnk-intl/index.html
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Lambert posted:If that happens, it will be the usual media idiocy where they pin the work of a team to a single person to create some weird "hero" narrative. Also, it's not going to be someone you've ever heard of before. A humble fellow called Donald J. Trump. Seriously, if some actual studies will show that there is an obscure cure, he will obviously tweet that he was already suggesting adding active goal to yak milk for months. cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Apr 12, 2020 |
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:China is quietly engaging in a crackdown of Black people due to racist fears that they’re spreading the virus. Doesn't seem to be the government doing it, though?
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doingitwrong posted:The American South went to war in order to preserve their ability to continue chattel slavery. They believed that they’d get support from industrializing Britain because King Cotton would compel help from Europe. They were under no illusions about whether or not slaves in the cotton fields were essential workers. Of course course. This is the essence of capitalism; my original post is in reference to the cultural assumptions instilled in the American middle class, such that it still exists, by that very system. Just maybe there will now be a realignment that allows people to actually question their assumptions about how ‘awesome’ the only freedom actually defended by anyone in this country is—free trade, and the buying and selling of wage slaves.
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Lambert posted:Doesn't seem to be the government doing it, though? But according to the Chinese government, the Chinese people are the government. Also, your avatar makes me wary of your opinion on that country.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:China is quietly engaging in a crackdown of Black people due to racist fears that they’re spreading the virus.
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doingitwrong posted:America needs a new story about how it functions, one that leads to less inequality but that doesn’t sound like socialism or communism because those ideas are so thoroughly tied into decades of conflict that they are irredeemable in the eyes of most voters. Maybe this disease is the beginning of that lesson. Maybe climate change is. I wish us luck.
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cant cook creole bream posted:Hmm. I might have jumped the gun there. Sorry. Earlier today I was reading an article about some university hospital which was already doing it to 19 patients and the doctors were quite impressed with the early results. But I can't find that anymore. And it's not a rigorous study with a double blind test yet. But those have started. I guess, we will see some results in two weeks. If the group with the real plasma gets healthy way faster, that's a significant bit of data. No worries, just glad to know progress is being made, initially they had to deal with red tape issues since people who had covid would normally be banned from donating for several months. They have been quite good at using a pragmatic approach when it comes to red tape though so I'm not surprised they solved that quickly.
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MightyBigMinus posted:minimum viable standard of living "Standard of living" is going to make people upset because of the threat that there is somebody out there getting something they don't "deserve" If you want to sell this, we should package it as "minimum upkeep for maximized wage slavery output" or "labor force cultivation cost center optimization" You have to tell our power class that we aren't trying to help people live better, just to trying to make sure the next generation of wage slaves know how to read Amazon warehouse dispatch displays and have the requisite bone density to lift 40 lbs onto a pallet. Potato Salad fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Apr 12, 2020 |
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It's going to be more difficult to convince our power class that we'll make more money if the workers with diabetes gets insulin, But hey, that's just how incrementalism works.
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Endorph posted:what if the effective treatment is eating a bat Someone find me Ozzy Osbourne.
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Someone find me Ozzy Osbourne. He’s had anti covid-19 antibodies for decades.
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Endorph posted:what if the effective treatment is eating a bat ah yes the homeopathy logic of get more of the thing to cure the thing. or something. I think
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PhazonLink posted:ah yes the homeopathy logic of get more of the thing to cure the thing. The effective treatment is eating five atoms of bat.
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It's like some RPG. Every time you eat something which causes corona, you get a slight chance to get instrinct immunity instead. That's why you should always eat deathcaps.
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