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As much as i miss the competition for ratings and trying to get butts in seats, WCW was a complete loving mess that messed up a lot of wrestler's lives.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Wasn't the the "ROCK BOTTOM IN THE DOG POOP" match going on in WWF around the same time? One interesting part of the whole Monday Night Wars is that WCW briefly held out against doing the same "edgy" poop-and-T&A humor WWF were doing, but when they finally gave in they somehow managed to do it in a way that felt even worse (and of course, tanked their image and ad money in the process.)
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Somehow when WWE did it it felt like Jerry Springer, when WCW did it it felt like Russo shooting a porn in his basement
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In the Brawl 4 All Dark Side of the Ring ep; Russo literally said that all the writers in the back were watching Jerry Springer 24/7 and using that as inspiration basically
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Wasn't the the "ROCK BOTTOM IN THE DOG POOP" match going on in WWF around the same time? There was also the Kennel from Hell match a couple of months before this, but that only involved poop because 1) the match itself was poo poo and 2) the "ferocious attack dogs" at ringside kept doing their business all over the place while the match was going on. DMorbid fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Apr 13, 2020 |
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Apr 13, 2020 13:40
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MassRafTer posted:I'm sorry but you didn't watch pre Russo WCW 1999 if you think it was worthwhile overall. The summer of 1999 is one of the worst products EVER. Kevin Nash's booking made the show complete torture to watch from hours without wrestling to masturbatory runs for him and his friends to just horrible idea after horrible idea. The only watchable thing in that summer is a feud based upon two wrestlers trying to put poop on each other (The Great Poop Feud of 99) and its sequel where Dennis Rodman and the Macho Man tried to get each other in the poop (Poop Feud 2.)
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Halloween Jack posted:How was Sullivan's booking? I've read about it, and I watched it all happen, but I'm still confused about what he actually booked. That is, it seemed to fall to him when bigger plans were on hold. As I recall he wasn't too bad as a booker, just hamstrung with so much of Hogan's creative control and the rest of WCW's, well, WCW-ness. There were certainly worse bookers than him but "book better than Nash or Russo" is the lowest bar possible.
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I never get tired of posting this. https://youtu.be/A7b61zoFycY
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I'm still figuring out how you even approach Macho Man with a pitch involving landing in dog poo poo. I guess the point's moot now.
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coconono posted:I'm still figuring out how you even approach Macho Man with a pitch involving landing in dog poo poo. I guess the point's moot now. He never had a problem elbow dropping Ed Leslie.
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TheKingslayer posted:He never had a problem elbow dropping Ed Leslie. 
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TheKingslayer posted:He never had a problem elbow dropping Ed Leslie. 
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TheKingslayer posted:He never had a problem elbow dropping Ed Leslie. rack 'em
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Halloween Jack posted:How was Sullivan's booking? I've read about it, and I watched it all happen, but I'm still confused about what he actually booked. His own divorce.
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Halloween Jack posted:How was Sullivan's booking? I've read about it, and I watched it all happen, but I'm still confused about what he actually booked. That is, it seemed to fall to him when bigger plans were on hold. In his first run it was fine, in 2000 it was really boring and bad but he did book Spring Break Out 2000 the greatest wrestling show of all time.
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Sullivan booked WCW during its best period, but he wasn't alone. And that period in 2000 between Russo's first and second runs was abysmal. Al Greene was a literal dog. A dog in the body of a man, wrestling matches. Holy poo poo was that era ever terrible.
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I wish WWE's slow death spiral wasn't so loving boring, at least when WCW died it wasn't like watching paint dry week after week.
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Randaconda posted:I wish WWE's slow death spiral wasn't so loving boring, at least when WCW died it wasn't like watching paint dry week after week. because WCW was always creative. It was usually dogshit but it was consistently creative. WWE is legitimately the least creative narrative program that I've seen on television. Maury has better storylines than WWE
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Low Desert Punk posted:because WCW was always creative. It was usually dogshit but it was consistently creative. I swear it's been the same five storylines over and over and over since like 2004 or so, and when they do stumble upon a hot angle or storyline, they almost instantly gently caress it up, seemingly on purpose.
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Randaconda posted:I wish WWE's slow death spiral wasn't so loving boring, at least when WCW died it wasn't like watching paint dry week after week. The last 6 months of WCW were very much like watching paint dry so maybe we're close!
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Yeah there was absolutely nothing creative about late death era WCW.
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A lot of disrespect being shown ITT to wrestling’s greatest stable, the Magnificent Seven
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Remembering late-2000 WCW was difficult because everything was so dull it just slides off your brain. The only things I remember: The Natural Born Thrillers was a stable of 6 of the same person who couldn't wrestle and couldn't talk. And roughly half of every show was devoted to them. There was way more Shane Douglas than you remember. Mike Awesome power-bombed somebody on the roof of a the Partridge Family bus and then they fell over. Rey Mysterio Jr. was loving around with Disco Inferno despite being the most talented worker in the company by several orders of magnitude (and this is coming from somebody who isn't even that into Rey).
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ChrisBTY posted:Remembering late-2000 WCW was difficult because everything was so dull it just slides off your brain. hey chuck palumbo had the it factor
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WWE tends towards stagnation- when they don't know what to do, they just do the status quo. (See also the New Generation era, which was a whole lot of not much happening.) WCW, when they didn't know what to do, just started throwing poo poo out in the hopes that something would connect. The results were... not entertaining in the strict sense of the word, but things were happening. They just were awful.
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ChrisBTY posted:Remembering late-2000 WCW was difficult because everything was so dull it just slides off your brain. That was the skinny dude from ICP.
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ChrisBTY posted:Mike Awesome power-bombed somebody on the roof of a the Partridge Family bus and then they fell over. Pope Corky the IX posted:That was the skinny dude from ICP. Aah, memories  God, the moment Mike realizes he's going over the edge and tries to grab him. He had to have the most  face
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Maxwell Lord posted:WWE tends towards stagnation- when they don't know what to do, they just do the status quo. (See also the New Generation era, which was a whole lot of not much happening.) Yeah, WWE panics and they like run another Authority angle or an arrogant heel champion. WCW panicked and they went "Lets strip all the titles and completely re-align every wrestler on the roster in the same segment!!!"
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This will never, ever get old to me.
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Saucer Crab posted:This will never, ever get old to me. It's one of those things you absolutely have to see or you'd never believe it. "So yeah, it's 1999(or 2000, I forget which), and a Juggalo and a professional wrestler are on top of the Partridge Family bus..."
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THE BUS HAS BEEN WASHED
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Oh god I've heard about this for years but never actually seen it There was an unofficial WCW reunion show in 2006 called "World Wrestling Legends: 6:05 The Reunion" and someone put it on YouTube Part 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgebpHC7lTc Part 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGID39-zVko&t=6s MorrisBae fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Apr 14, 2020 |
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Mike Awesome accidentally powerbombed Shaggy 2 Dope off the Patridge Family bus sounds like one of those car ride mad libs.
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If you have ever doubted how bad pre Russo WCW was, tune in tonight for Great American Bash 1999. http://psp-tv.com/r/badmoviesworsewrestling 8 PM.
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MassRafTer posted:If you have ever doubted how bad pre Russo WCW was, tune in tonight for Great American Bash 1999. No don't.
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Jersey Triad from this stretch was pretty decent and boy all the rest was the utter shits.
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MassRafTer posted:If you have ever doubted how bad pre Russo WCW was, tune in tonight for Great American Bash 1999. 
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Saucer Crab posted:Jersey Triad from this stretch was pretty decent and boy all the rest was the utter shits. The Jersey Triad was a big step down from the Benoit, Saturn, Malenko, Raven, Kidman and Rey pairings. DDP's heel promos were also horrible.
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Even 1998 WCW was dogshit by mid-year. The Malenko/Jericho feud was the high point and once that was over, whew. I begged my dad to buy us tickets to Fall Brawl 98 and even as a little kid in the crowd I knew that PPV was horrendous and all of it sucked. The Hogan feuds during that period (with Malone, Leno, Warrior) were loving TERRIBLE and sucked all the air out of the room. Goldberg won the belt and then didn't even bother to defend it on half the PPVs. Goldberg winning the belt was the death of WCW, because Hogan was such a master politician that he made it completely meaningless.
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