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LanceHunter
Nov 12, 2016

Beautiful People Club


moist turtleneck posted:

I don't think I've been more dumbfounded by a movie than the end of RoS when she's like I'm john skywalker and this is my sand hole and then it flashed DIRECTED BY JJ ABRAMS


I'm used to people clapping and poo poo on opening night but people just got up and left and you know there's always gonna be people usually waiting for the end because marvel movies

It was really the culmination of Disney trying so damned hard to get people to stop calling the main Star Wars films that and instead call them "the Skywalker saga" (because then the spinoff films and tv shows and other bullshit can be seen as just as important, and not supplementary material to the actual "Episode X" movies that are the "real" Star Wars).

"We're closing out the 'Skywalker Saga', not Star Wars!" some executive screamed when some writer tried to ask how the hell they were going to make Rey a Skywalker.

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Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks

Quantum of Phallus posted:

Netflix's "adult" animation, except for maybe Bojack, is soooo bad

Any show these days where the animation is boring and ugly and low-effort is almost guaranteed to be lovely in the writing department as well, and this has been true of basically all animation for the past few decades beyond the first wave of Adult Swim shows, so luckily bad animated shows are easy to avoid wasting your time on just by looking at the thumbnail.

No Mods No Masters
Oct 3, 2004

Absolutely nothing from the actual movie has persisted in my brain, but I still do smile every few days when I remember that the visual dictionary established that chewie is a centrist

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

No Mods No Masters posted:

Absolutely nothing from the actual movie has persisted in my brain, but I still do smile every few days when I remember that the visual dictionary established that chewie is a centrist

???

Promoted Pawn
Jun 8, 2005

oops


Entropic posted:

Any show these days where the animation is boring and ugly and low-effort is almost guaranteed to be lovely in the writing department as well, and this has been true of basically all animation for the past few decades beyond the first wave of Adult Swim shows, so luckily bad animated shows are easy to avoid wasting your time on just by looking at the thumbnail.

Early adult swim was lightning in a bottle in so many different ways, it’s amazing that that vibe lasted as long as it did. The animation probably would have been better if they had a budget of more than “here’s some old Hanna-Barbera properties you can gently caress around with”.

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks

Promoted Pawn posted:

Early adult swim was lightning in a bottle in so many different ways, it’s amazing that that vibe lasted as long as it did. The animation probably would have been better if they had a budget of more than “here’s some old Hanna-Barbera properties you can gently caress around with”.

I re-watched the first episode of Sealab 2021 recently and it's still funnier than anything in recent seasons of Archer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo9hqmkEfEY

I honestly think it was a case of the weird limitations fostering creativity and if Adam Reed & co had been given a huge animation budget right away they probably wouldn't have come up with anything as funny.

Most of the Netflix animated shows these days probably have 20x the budget Sealab did and look at the amazingly bland, lovely, just plain ugly stuff they put out:






Holy gently caress these shows are ugly.
It's all so lazy looking, like knock-off Family Guy at best. Big Mouth in particular is just abrasively ugly to look at.

Something like Bojack or Tuca & Bertie might not be for everyone, but at least they fuckin' try.

No Mods No Masters
Oct 3, 2004


priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
F is for Family is alright, not great, but the rest of those shows are awful.

Harvey Birdman was my fav early Adult Swim show and man the jokes are rapid fire on that show with some fantastic voice acting. Sealab and metalocalypse were my other favs.

Peter McNichol as X the Eliminator was just so great.

Sally
Jan 9, 2007


Don't post Small Dash!
Big Mouth rules and I revel in its ugliness.

It's beautiful.

Sally
Jan 9, 2007


Don't post Small Dash!
Venture Bros is the gold standard for adult animation.

FeculentWizardTits
Aug 31, 2001

Faced with the choice between the guys fighting for democracy and the genocidal fascists led by the cackling embodiment of pure evil, Chewbacca shrugs his shoulders and says "I don't know about any of that political stuff, but Snoke was a guy I'd gladly have a beer with"

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



i'd definitely give it to bojack but venture bros is up there i guess

still looking forward to the midnight gospel but the trailer gives you so little to go on so who knows

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:

Rey Poe and Finn dont mean poo poo to Han. He knew them for a couple of days, before Rey got captured. I dont remember if he even met Poe.

Rey matters to Leia, i guess. Poe is a dicksmack subordinate who doesnt listen. Finn is with them in TLJ but he quickly leaves for casino planet and barely has any time with Leia.

Chewie knows them even less. Meets them a bit in TFA, barely shows up in Tlj, then gets killed off screen by Rey lightning in ros.

endless trash.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

Dash Rendar posted:

Venture Bros is the gold standard for adult animation.

O poo poo I forgot about VB, the way the show and characters age and evolve is great too.

super sweet best pal
Nov 18, 2009

Venture Bros is still one of my favorites and I love the depth to the humor, like the Scooby Doo parody characters being based on famous 70s psychos.


Small, incremental changes are the way to defeat the Empire.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Graham Fury posted:

The TROS post-credits scene was barely worth it anyway, just a shot of the vaporized Emperor particles on the ground, then some robed figure walks in and scoops some of it up in a specimen container, pan up and it's Chewbacca doing the shifty eyes

It was better than the TLJ post-credits scene with Mara Jade vowing revenge for Luke's death. They didn't even bring it up in the next movie!

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Those slavers you freed me from? Yeah they are ok. They promised minimum wage and not kill the person I am standing next to if they kill me.

LanceHunter
Nov 12, 2016

Beautiful People Club


Dash Rendar posted:

Venture Bros is the gold standard for adult animation.

Venture Bros also has the interesting caveat of not being able to be made on an absolute shoestring budget, so instead they give it a regular budget but amortize the cost over enough years that it ends up costing almost nothing.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Entropic posted:

I re-watched the first episode of Sealab 2021 recently and it's still funnier than anything in recent seasons of Archer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo9hqmkEfEY

I honestly think it was a case of the weird limitations fostering creativity and if Adam Reed & co had been given a huge animation budget right away they probably wouldn't have come up with anything as funny.

Most of the Netflix animated shows these days probably have 20x the budget Sealab did and look at the amazingly bland, lovely, just plain ugly stuff they put out:






Holy gently caress these shows are ugly.
It's all so lazy looking, like knock-off Family Guy at best. Big Mouth in particular is just abrasively ugly to look at.

Something like Bojack or Tuca & Bertie might not be for everyone, but at least they fuckin' try.

Final Space looks great in parts

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:
Final Spaceis stupid and terrible and the main character is written by Tim Buckley but the backgrounds and colors are gorgeous though

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
F is for family isn't amazing but I kinda like it anyway. It is ugly though. Or at least bland. Another ugly animated show I like is Animals

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP073n20zLk

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks

Dash Rendar posted:

Venture Bros is the gold standard for adult animation.

I always laugh when I remember that Venture Bros is ostensibly still in production. It's like the polar opposite of those low-effort quick and ugly shows, it's the show that disappeared up its own rear end in pursuit of perfectionism and taking itself too seriously. They go like 3 years between seasons now so it's impossible to remember what happened last season and they've gone down the rabbit-hole crafting elaborate backstories for characters that were originally just a one-note gag that no one other than the two show creators give a poo poo about, like Sgt. Hatred or Wide Wale or whatever. And it's barely even a comedy anymore from what I remember of last time I watched it?

hard counter
Jan 2, 2015





Sir Lemming posted:

Plinkett reviews are the ideal format for this in the quarantine age.

And/or Rich is dead

dead from being forced to talk about the picard finale for 24 hours straight

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


https://twitter.com/AllisonPregler/status/1249616330220847106

reignofevil
Nov 7, 2008

They've gone too far.

LanceHunter
Nov 12, 2016

Beautiful People Club


Entropic posted:

I always laugh when I remember that Venture Bros is ostensibly still in production. It's like the polar opposite of those low-effort quick and ugly shows, it's the show that disappeared up its own rear end in pursuit of perfectionism and taking itself too seriously. They go like 3 years between seasons now so it's impossible to remember what happened last season and they've gone down the rabbit-hole crafting elaborate backstories for characters that were originally just a one-note gag that no one other than the two show creators give a poo poo about, like Sgt. Hatred or Wide Wale or whatever. And it's barely even a comedy anymore from what I remember of last time I watched it?

The delays between seasons of Venture Bros isn't because of the people on the show. Williams Street basically only sets aside a tiny amount of money each year for Venture Bros and they have to wait until that amount of money is enough to actually pay for all the episodes. It's definitely gone down some weird rabbit holes but moving the setting to New York was a big breath of fresh air.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Rise of Skywalker is the worst Star Wars so I would be bummed with no Plinkett but it is worse in a different way than any other Star War.

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
they glued her hair to her rear end

Nigmaetcetera
Nov 17, 2004

borkborkborkmorkmorkmork-gabbalooins

reignofevil posted:

They've gone too far.

I’m pretty sure I saw an rear end on the Disney channel at least once after 9:00 pm when I was a kid. What’s wrong with these people? Does looking at butts lower your social credit score in China or something?

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

I'm a girl, and you're
gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.
It's weird how good Westworld has gotten these last few episodes.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
I'm enjoying it for the production value. It's style over substance to a T

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Disney exists in some weird universe where the only loving is done by Disney alone and it's always lube free sodomy

piratepilates
Mar 28, 2004

So I will learn to live with it. Because I can live with it. I can live with it.



drat I didn't know final space was created by olan rogers of balloonshop fame.

look, I have no idea how well these hold up, but you're just going to have to trust me that like 10 years ago this poo poo was the funniest thing we'd seen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cScB5FuQCIk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZcGKHC0Rh8

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Nigmaetcetera posted:

I’m pretty sure I saw an rear end on the Disney channel at least once after 9:00 pm when I was a kid. What’s wrong with these people? Does looking at butts lower your social credit score in China or something?

When you're developing the world's #1 digital babysitter, you need to ask yourself over and over: if the most Karen Karen who ever Karen'd walked into the room while her 2 year old was watching this scene, could she conceivably pitch a fit? If yes, call up the VFX team.

Nigmaetcetera
Nov 17, 2004

borkborkborkmorkmorkmork-gabbalooins
Final Space makes me hope for the destruction of the characters universe. God drat is it ever maudlin, humorless, and boring. And the music, christ. “Boohoo, my daddy is dead”, well loving good, you deserve it for failing to entertain me.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Milo and POTUS posted:

F is for family isn't amazing but I kinda like it anyway. It is ugly though. Or at least bland. Another ugly animated show I like is Animals

Animals was good. I'm amazed it got 3 seasons.

The live action skits in the last 3 seasons were dumb though.

Lambert
Apr 15, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Fallen Rib

When your company stands for prudeness so severe a naked butt is considered sinful.

reignofevil
Nov 7, 2008
Everybody poops.

NOT TODAY.

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Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Disney suck, their films suck and it's a drat shame they literally killed cinema

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