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Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010


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Ultra Carp
Robin Hood as an explicit Zootopia prequel (so it isn't just a remake) could probably work pretty well. Or they could even go whole hog and wrap it into Zootopia 2, with Nick and Judy hunting a treasure hidden by Robin.

of course the only proper thing to expect from Disney these days is disappointment, so I'm not holding my breath.

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Looper
Mar 1, 2012
agree that trolls world tour wasn't as strong as the first. it kinda gave itself too much to do in a limited run time and the narrative suffered for it, but it was still a lot of fun and looked loving gorgeous. watching it again later today

PierreTheMime
Dec 9, 2004

Hero of hormagaunts everywhere!
Buglord

Pick posted:

I watched Trolls World Tour and it's cute and has good music. That's all I wanted and I am pleased :colbert:

I quite liked it and the kids have absolutely gotten our $20 out of the rental, having rewatched it three times now. I especially appreciated the core message of ”people are different and you should celebrate differences and never, even with good intentions, lump people together as ‘the same’”. Bonus points for the minor twist of pop being the original aggressor and pointing out revisionist history. It also helps make sense why all the other troll types avoided pop and why they weren’t included in the first film.

Also it didn’t hit me until it was over that Dreamworks sprung another ending dance party on us. :argh:

PierreTheMime fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Apr 12, 2020

Looper
Mar 1, 2012
both trolls movies absolutely earn their endings

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Looper posted:

agree that trolls world tour wasn't as strong as the first. it kinda gave itself too much to do in a limited run time and the narrative suffered for it, but it was still a lot of fun and looked loving gorgeous. watching it again later today

I feel the same way. I kind of feel like the biggest weakness of both trolls movies is what I do suspect was an executive decision, Where I am usually extremely hesitant to blame ~the powers that be~ unless there's decently firm evidence. But I don't think that anybody could really deny that the writers were forced to put too many characters in the film. In the first one they're pretty clever about how they get rid of the majority of the cast for the majority of the film, though that's obviously what they're doing, but in the second it just creaks from the weight of such a huge cast in a standard runtime.

I would've made all of poppy's old friends simply background characters in this one and not really done anything other than wave to them. Why not? The Bergens aren't even in this one! But I don't think they would've been allowed to do that, because the TV shows and other media involve those characters a lot.

And that ultimately takes time away from characters like Barb, who was awesome, but even more importantly, the full cover of Perfect for Me. Which is an amazing loving cover! They spent the necessary time in the first one on True Colors. This one should've gotten more of Perfect for Me.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
I liked the subplot of the Giraffe-troll trying to find others like him.

LeJackal
Apr 5, 2011

Boxman posted:

gently caress it just re-use the Nick Wilde assets, bring Jason Bateman back

I'm trying very hard to find problems with this idea, and I just can't.

ThermoPhysical
Dec 26, 2007



Acebuckeye13 posted:

Robin Hood as an explicit Zootopia prequel (so it isn't just a remake) could probably work pretty well. Or they could even go whole hog and wrap it into Zootopia 2, with Nick and Judy hunting a treasure hidden by Robin.

I'm mad that these aren't what's going to happen.

If Disney is looking through this thread at all...PLEASE DO THIS. :v:

MinionOfCthulhu
Oct 28, 2005

I got this title for free due to my proximity to an idiot who wanted to save $5 on an avatar by having someone else spend $9.95 instead.

Cockmaster posted:

https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/10/21216864/robin-hood-remake-disney-plus-exclusive-animation-cgi

It was bound to happen, and now it is: Disney is now doing the "CGI remake" thing with Robin Hood. Except that this one is going to be a Disney+ exclusive.

What do you suppose the odds are that this will end up not sucking?

Odds are not good.

Finally got around to seeing the live action Aladdin. Ehh. Did Genie really need a love interest?

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:
Ok so I didn’t know Forky was made from a used spork which ew and also plastic cutlery is super delicate and that poo poo would’ve snapped in a day

SomeJazzyRat
Nov 2, 2012

Hmmm...

Calaveron posted:

Ok so I didn’t know Forky was made from a used spork which ew and also plastic cutlery is super delicate and that poo poo would’ve snapped in a day

I don't know how toys can talk and move of their own volition. It doesn't make sense. Surely a kindred soul such as yourself must be able to understand my position, and be willing to read my literature on the secret socialist-buddhist propaganda that the major studios are hiding in their children's features. Ty and god bless.

dirksteadfast
Oct 10, 2010
I don’t know why it took so long for Disney to go back to that era for the remakes after The Jungle Book. I know mileage varies on whether the new Jungle Book was good, but at least it attempted to take the bones of the original and made the rest its own thing. Robin Hood, Aristocats, Sword in the Stone, and 101 Dalmatians are all movies that have bits that are well-remembered but definitely leave a lot of room to build something better with them.

(I just realized that list has both a Robin Hood movie and a King Arthur movie. Both kisses of death in Hollywood)

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:
You know what you do when your kid is sad over missing trash, you go get more trash and pipe cleaners and recreate it no fuss no muss

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

dirksteadfast posted:

(I just realized that list has both a Robin Hood movie and a King Arthur movie. Both kisses of death in Hollywood)

I just figured out the movie that would make Hollywood go nuts: James Cameron's Robin Hood vs King Arthur On Mars.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
I'm sort of amazed there hasn't been a good King Arthur movie since Excalibur, honestly. Like, it's not exactly rocket science, and I have no idea why there's all these attempts at "jazzing it up" and "modernizing it" when just doing the basic Malory arc straight gets you a loving sick movie.

e: well, tbf, if you count anime there's been a couple good ones (I'm mostly saying this so nobody else makes the Fate joke)

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Detective No. 27 posted:

I just figured out the movie that would make Hollywood go nuts: James Cameron's . . .

FATE: Stay/Night - UNLIMITED

Rider: "I know now why... YOU DIE"

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

Boxman posted:

gently caress it just re-use the Nick Wilde assets, bring Jason Bateman back

Re-using assets again would be ridiculously meta

Aces High
Mar 26, 2010

Nah! A little chocolate will do




Detective No. 27 posted:

I just figured out the movie that would make Hollywood go nuts: James Cameron's Robin Hood vs King Arthur On Mars.

so what you're saying is we need an Alita: Last Order movie now

Boxman
Sep 27, 2004

Big fan of :frog:


SomeJazzyRat posted:

I don't know how toys can talk and move of their own volition. It doesn't make sense.

This made me remember my favorite observation of the Toy Story movies, which I may have seen here first: that the logic of the toys not wanting to be seen moving is never really explained. Like, it's very important that they don't move in front of humans, except when it it's necessary to freak Sid out, or any of the billion times they moved more or less in plain sight and it stretches credulity to believe no one noticed. But it's a logical (if unsaid) way to tie off the logic of "your toys are alive but you never knew it" and the emotional cores of the stories resonate well enough that it really doesn't matter. It's like Marvel movies jettisoning secret identities left and right; they aren't the stories that the writers want to tell, and those stories are pretty good, so who cares about this other thing?

Amorphous Abode
Apr 2, 2010


We may have finally found unobtainium but I will never find eywa.

Just like how nobody in Monsters Inc cares about OSHA violations.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
There's a new Gawain and the Green Knight movie coming out and it's by a director I like, the guy who did the new Pete's Dragon.

Cockmaster
Feb 24, 2002

dirksteadfast posted:

I don’t know why it took so long for Disney to go back to that era for the remakes after The Jungle Book. I know mileage varies on whether the new Jungle Book was good, but at least it attempted to take the bones of the original and made the rest its own thing. Robin Hood, Aristocats, Sword in the Stone, and 101 Dalmatians are all movies that have bits that are well-remembered but definitely leave a lot of room to build something better with them.

(I just realized that list has both a Robin Hood movie and a King Arthur movie. Both kisses of death in Hollywood)

And how about The Black Cauldron? With modern CGI (possibly tapping the talent behind Lord of the Rings), it could look pretty good.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Pick posted:

There's a new Gawain and the Green Knight movie coming out and it's by a director I like, the guy who did the new Pete's Dragon.

I liked the new Pete's Dragon movie, though very few people remember it.

Anyway, I'm also excited for the new Green Knight film.

Also, for fans of cartoons targeted towards adults: the new season of American Dad starts airing tomorrow. American Dad is like the bizzaro version of the Simpsons in that the most recent seasons are fantastic instead of barely tolerable. If you (justifiably) wrote this show off as a Family Guy knock off back in the early 2000's I strongly recommend giving it another shot now.

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

I caught up on the latest season a couple weeks ago. It's still pretty great. Bunny Ears just might be my favorite episode.

dirksteadfast
Oct 10, 2010

Cockmaster posted:

And how about The Black Cauldron? With modern CGI (possibly tapping the talent behind Lord of the Rings), it could look pretty good.

I thought about it, but didn’t want to lump Black Cauldron in with those other ones as it was a bit more ambitious.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Boxman posted:

This made me remember my favorite observation of the Toy Story movies, which I may have seen here first: that the logic of the toys not wanting to be seen moving is never really explained. Like, it's very important that they don't move in front of humans, except when it it's necessary to freak Sid out, or any of the billion times they moved more or less in plain sight and it stretches credulity to believe no one noticed. But it's a logical (if unsaid) way to tie off the logic of "your toys are alive but you never knew it" and the emotional cores of the stories resonate well enough that it really doesn't matter. It's like Marvel movies jettisoning secret identities left and right; they aren't the stories that the writers want to tell, and those stories are pretty good, so who cares about this other thing?

The first Toy Story does have the clear implication there are rules, and the toys know them instinctively (even Buzz when he doesn't know he's a toy) and feel no need to particularly explain them. Definitely one of those cases where any exposition would be worse than none.


LORD OF BOOTY posted:

I'm sort of amazed there hasn't been a good King Arthur movie since Excalibur, honestly. Like, it's not exactly rocket science, and I have no idea why there's all these attempts at "jazzing it up" and "modernizing it" when just doing the basic Malory arc straight gets you a loving sick movie.

e: well, tbf, if you count anime there's been a couple good ones (I'm mostly saying this so nobody else makes the Fate joke)

I think a part of it is that Hollywood hasn't been able to escape from the need to tell 'The REAL story' for what was obviously fiction even at the time, and strips out all the fantasy elements without adding anything equally interesting to replace them. (I wonder if you can blame Batman Begins for this) The other part is that Hollywood seems to have no idea how to make non-animated fantasy movies, outside of Lord of the Rings. Probably telling that every worthwhile King Arthur story is one that embraces the fantasy elements, and everyone loves a wacky Merlin. You can just make it a rollicking children's adventure that grows steadily into a tragedy.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
It's why I like The Kid who would be King so much, it keeps all the fantasy poo poo and has a great sense of humour, like summoning the Lady of the Lake in a bathtub, or Excalibur being stuck in a piece of Rebar at a construction site.

Boxman
Sep 27, 2004

Big fan of :frog:


Cockmaster posted:

And how about The Black Cauldron? With modern CGI (possibly tapping the talent behind Lord of the Rings), it could look pretty good.

That doesn't come with a massive built in audience like the other remakes. The fact that it has major problems (that could be fixed) is, sadly, the reason it will almost certainly not be remade.

Boxman fucked around with this message at 11:37 on Apr 13, 2020

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Maybe not The Black Cauldron specifically but a proper adaption of the book series it was loosely based on might be interesting in my opinion.

ThermoPhysical
Dec 26, 2007



Pixar's Soul has been delayed to November 20, 2020.

https://twitter.com/pixar/status/1249759604805791744

Disney Animation's Raya and the Last Dragon will be delayed until March 12, 2021.

https://twitter.com/disneyanimation/status/1249759260235436032

EDIT: Oh, and Mulan has been changed from indefinitely delayed to July 24, 2020.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/03/media/disney-film-dates-mulan-marvel-coronavirus/index.html

Changed the OP for the new release dates.

ThermoPhysical fucked around with this message at 01:34 on Apr 14, 2020

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

Honestly movie theaters being open in time for Mulan’s new date is still very much up in the air, I feel like movies aren’t gonna be considered essential that quickly, especially since it’s basically gathering dozens of people in a room for multiple hours. Even without interacting with each other it’s still a big risk.

IShallRiseAgain
Sep 12, 2008

Well ain't that precious?

DC Murderverse posted:

Honestly movie theaters being open in time for Mulan’s new date is still very much up in the air, I feel like movies aren’t gonna be considered essential that quickly, especially since it’s basically gathering dozens of people in a room for multiple hours. Even without interacting with each other it’s still a big risk.

If any movie deserves to suffer the consequences of the pandemic, its Mulan.

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!
I'm betting that the Chinese market is no small part of their plan for that movie, so that might be the main driver for that release date even if it ends up not working out stateside.

ThermoPhysical
Dec 26, 2007



With the change of SpongeBob to August 7, every single antimatter movie that was to release between March 2020 - June 2020 has been delayed or cancelled.

SpongeBob talked the place of another Paramount movie, Infinite, which will release on May 28, 2021 instead of August 7th.

https://www.slashfilm.com/spongebob-movie-release-date/

doomrider7
Nov 29, 2018

ThermoPhysical posted:

With the change of SpongeBob to August 7, every single antimatter movie that was to release between March 2020 - June 2020 has been delayed or cancelled.

SpongeBob talked the place of another Paramount movie, Infinite, which will release on May 28, 2021 instead of August 7th.

https://www.slashfilm.com/spongebob-movie-release-date/

What were the affected movies?

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010


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Ultra Carp

doomrider7 posted:

What were the affected movies?

Unfortunately I believe they all came into contact with matter movies and were destroyed, so it's impossible to say.

ThermoPhysical
Dec 26, 2007



doomrider7 posted:

What were the affected movies?

poo poo, sorry. Phoneposted that. :v:

They probably weren't good anyway so it's okay they got destroyed.

If you're actually serious and wondering which were moved around/cancelled, well I looked it all up just because I'm not doing anything but making ribs right now:

Mulan - Delayed to July 24, 2020. Original release date was March 27, 2020.

SpongeBob: Sponge on the Run - Delayed to August 7, 2020. Original release date was February 9, 2019, then delayed to August 2, 2019, then July 31, 2020, then pushed up to July 17, 2020, then pushed to May 22, 2020 before the August 7 date.

Soul - Delayed to November 20, 2020. Original release date was June 19, 2020.

Peter Rabbit 2: The Runaway - Delayed to January 15, 2021. Original release date was April 3, 2020 in the US and March 27, 2020 in the UK but it was delayed to August 7, 2020 before it was pushed back to next January.

Raya and the Last Dragon - Delayed to March 12, 2021. Original release date was November 25, 2020.

Minions: The Rise of Gru - Delayed to July 2, 2021. Original release date was July 3, 2020. Illumination Mac Guff (the French studio animating the movie) is temporarily closed due to the pandemic and the movie is actually unfinished and originally it was indefinitely delayed because of that. But Illumination (not Illumination Mac Guff...stupid company names...) stated they just pushed the release date to Sing 2's date.

Sing 2 - Delayed to December 22, 2021. Original release date was July 2, 2021. Illumination pushed the Minions movie into Sing 2's original slot.

Scoob! - Delayed indefinitely as of this post. Original release date was September 21, 2018, then delayed to May 15, 2020 before the indefinite delay.

Acebuckeye13 posted:

Unfortunately I believe they all came into contact with matter movies and were destroyed, so it's impossible to say.

I guess Scoob! is the antimatter movie and got destroyed, which sucks cause I was really looking forward to that one.

I'm kind of pissed about Sing 2 being pushed aside for Minions 2 though. I went in to the first Minions movie because my SO really wanted to see it and had an open mind. Nope, it was filled with wasted potential and all the good parts were in the first trailer anyway. Sing wasn't the best...but it was a little better than Minions at least.

I forgot to add Sing 2 to the OP anyway so I'm doing that now.

doomrider7
Nov 29, 2018

ThermoPhysical posted:

poo poo, sorry. Phoneposted that. :v:

They probably weren't good anyway so it's okay they got destroyed.

If you're actually serious and wondering which were moved around/cancelled, well I looked it all up just because I'm not doing anything but making ribs right now:

Mulan - Delayed to July 24, 2020. Original release date was March 27, 2020.

SpongeBob: Sponge on the Run - Delayed to August 7, 2020. Original release date was February 9, 2019, then delayed to August 2, 2019, then July 31, 2020, then pushed up to July 17, 2020, then pushed to May 22, 2020 before the August 7 date.

Soul - Delayed to November 20, 2020. Original release date was June 19, 2020.

Peter Rabbit 2: The Runaway - Delayed to January 15, 2021. Original release date was April 3, 2020 in the US and March 27, 2020 in the UK but it was delayed to August 7, 2020 before it was pushed back to next January.

Raya and the Last Dragon - Delayed to March 12, 2021. Original release date was November 25, 2020.

Minions: The Rise of Gru - Delayed to July 2, 2021. Original release date was July 3, 2020. Illumination Mac Guff (the French studio animating the movie) is temporarily closed due to the pandemic and the movie is actually unfinished and originally it was indefinitely delayed because of that. But Illumination (not Illumination Mac Guff...stupid company names...) stated they just pushed the release date to Sing 2's date.

Sing 2 - Delayed to December 22, 2021. Original release date was July 2, 2021. Illumination pushed the Minions movie into Sing 2's original slot.

Scoob! - Delayed indefinitely as of this post. Original release date was September 21, 2018, then delayed to May 15, 2020 before the indefinite delay.


I guess Scoob! is the antimatter movie and got destroyed, which sucks cause I was really looking forward to that one.

I'm kind of pissed about Sing 2 being pushed aside for Minions 2 though. I went in to the first Minions movie because my SO really wanted to see it and had an open mind. Nope, it was filled with wasted potential and all the good parts were in the first trailer anyway. Sing wasn't the best...but it was a little better than Minions at least.

I forgot to add Sing 2 to the OP anyway so I'm doing that now.

FML. :(

Does this mean that the movie is gone forever, or simply on an indefinite hiatus? I ask this since it just feels really careless to not have had a digital copy of some kind that they could simply release.

ThermoPhysical
Dec 26, 2007



doomrider7 posted:

FML. :(

Does this mean that the movie is gone forever, or simply on an indefinite hiatus? I ask this since it just feels really careless to not have had a digital copy of some kind that they could simply release.

Honestly, I hope not but I'm not sure. With AMC possibly going into bankruptcy soon and movie theaters being against digital-only as it means there'd be no reason to buy movie tickets...who knows.

Trolls did VERY well despite being $20 and online only. Disney will be putting more movies out on Disney+ only like the upcoming Robin Hood live action. I could see Scoob! being put up on WB's upcoming thing that has like everything HB related.

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Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

ThermoPhysical posted:

Trolls did VERY well despite being $20 and online only.

GOOD. I hope this starts a trend. Release all movies straight to streaming services so I never have to go to the movie theater again

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