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Apr 17, 2020 08:24
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married but discreet posted:I love that movie's stupid premise, it's great. The premise IS great, but they hammered it in for half of the movie as a setup for a boring Robin Hood origin story.
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Apr 17, 2020 08:44
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Alan Smithee posted:Sharlto playing against type as a mustache twirling villain is like Adrian Brody trying to play a tough guy I like Predators
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Apr 17, 2020 08:57
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https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1249433767602724867?s=20 oh thank god didn't know how else we were going to make it through this
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Apr 17, 2020 09:37
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You know, people make jokes about creepy porn fan art when a Sonic movie was announced but I just watched Pixels and this movie's happy ending includes one of the heroes boning Q'bert. But maybe the most incredible thing about this movie is that they managed to convince Nintendo to allow the use of their characters in this movie including as the focus of the climax. I guess this is how Adam Sandler wins.
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Apr 17, 2020 13:37
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Alan Smithee posted:she's honestly not the worst thing about it Sharlto Copely playing a psychotic rekkie is fantastic and I don't know if I'd count it as him playing against type. In part because it was effectively his second role, but also in part because I don't think there's that much space between the frustrated office dweeb that Wikus starts out as in D9 and Kruger's eternal race war fantasist.
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Apr 17, 2020 14:12
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The MSJ posted:You know, people make jokes about creepy porn fan art when a Sonic movie was announced but I just watched Pixels and this movie's happy ending includes one of the heroes boning Q'bert. , so to speak
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Apr 17, 2020 14:17
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Q'bert is not a Nintendo character, you amateur
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Apr 17, 2020 14:29
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ALFbrot posted:Q'bert is not a Nintendo character, you amateur Looking at a list of what characters appear in the movie, I believe they're referring to how Donkey Kong appears in a major scene.
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Apr 17, 2020 14:36
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Sadly, I know that because I've seen the movie. I was referring to The Clowner's selective bolding to make a climax joke
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Apr 17, 2020 14:47
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ALFbrot posted:Sadly, I know that because I've seen the movie. I was referring to The Clowner's selective bolding to make a climax joke My apologies for misunderstanding and also for having seen the movie, I've heard nothing but awful about it.
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Apr 17, 2020 15:41
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MonsieurChoc posted:I like Contact. It always surprised me how Contact seems to be not very well liked at all. I loved it as a kid and I still love it.
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Apr 17, 2020 15:53
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MonsieurChoc posted:I like Contact. Yes, we know, we are all suffering from the social distancing.
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Apr 17, 2020 16:15
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Basebf555 posted:It always surprised me how Contact seems to be not very well liked at all. I loved it as a kid and I still love it. I agree. Every single criticism I've seen about it seems to rest entirely on people either upset that we didn't see the aliens at the end or people somehow thinking the ending meant her dad was an alien the whole time.
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Apr 17, 2020 16:45
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Chairman Capone posted:I agree. Every single criticism I've seen about it seems to rest entirely on people either upset that we didn't see the aliens at the end or people somehow thinking the ending meant her dad was an alien the whole time. I was 12 years old and I totally got that her dad was not actually her dad at the end. People can be so dumb about movies sometimes.
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Apr 17, 2020 16:47
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Colostomy Bag posted:For some sick deragened reason I like this film. It is unironically good sci-fi, just has the problem of being a sequel to one of the all-time legends.
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Apr 17, 2020 17:03
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Chairman Capone posted:I agree. Every single criticism I've seen about it seems to rest entirely on people either upset that we didn't see the aliens at the end or people somehow thinking the ending meant her dad was an alien the whole time. It's been a long time but I think it's a combination of the lack of going to the fireworks factory coupled with expectations from the advertising. edit: I just watched the ending on youtube, I would also argue that (aside from going on too way long in a way that seems to aim for 2001 but misses) the ending travel section is just crazy enough that not seeing the aliens (or something akin) comes across as kinda dumb. I would point to GOTG2 as a better way of going about it: Kurt Russel looks like a human, but what's going on around him and minor details on him indicate that you're looking at something much more alien, and to a character that should be ok with that.
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Apr 17, 2020 17:14
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Zachack posted:It's been a long time but I think it's a combination of the lack of going to the fireworks factory coupled with expectations from the advertising. I don't remember the marketing but certainly that could've been a part of the reaction. Because for me the fun of the movie has always been the signal and Ellie's work interpreting it and then building the machine. I love that stuff.
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Apr 17, 2020 17:17
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Basebf555 posted:I was 12 years old and I totally got that her dad was not actually her dad at the end. People can be so dumb about movies sometimes. Does her "dad" never explicitly say so? Been years since I saw it but I thought he did. Maybe I'm thinking of some other movie.
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Apr 17, 2020 17:27
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Lobok posted:Does her "dad" never explicitly say so? Been years since I saw it but I thought he did. Maybe I'm thinking of some other movie. Nah he explicitly explains that he’s an alien using images from her memories to soften the blow and keep her from freaking out
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Apr 17, 2020 17:29
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Lobok posted:Does her "dad" never explicitly say so? Been years since I saw it but I thought he did. Maybe I'm thinking of some other movie. If I remember correctly he never literally says "I'm not your dad, I'm an alien", but the dialogue makes it extremely clear.
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Apr 17, 2020 17:29
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Basebf555 posted:I was 12 years old and I totally got that her dad was not actually her dad at the end. People can be so dumb about movies sometimes. Yeah, I only comment that the alien was her dad because it was a joke on South Park, which I had no idea people were that dense. I mean it's been forever since I've seen it, but I remember the alien specifically saying that he took the form of her dad because she would lose her sanity if she saw a real alien.
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Apr 17, 2020 17:32
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Ellie Arroway: You're not real. None of this is real. Alien: [disguised as her father] That's my scientist. Ellie Arroway: When I was unconscious, you downloaded my thoughts, my memories, even Pensacola. Alien: We thought this might make things easier for you.
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Apr 17, 2020 17:33
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZvrMFbBUcU
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Apr 17, 2020 17:50
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feedmyleg posted:Eh, gently caress it. I've been thinking about it since yesterday, so why not: I was just curious which of the sort of canonical Big Sci Fi films you were going to leave out or if there would be any other unusual choices. Like you mention Stalker, but imo Solaris is a thousand times more interesting than Blade Runner 2 with a lot of similar concerns SuperMechagodzilla posted:Top 5 sci-fi movies that are specifically better than Blade Runner 2: You can’t just throw the Jeanne Dielman gag in there and not expound on it
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Apr 17, 2020 17:54
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Chairman Capone posted:I agree. Every single criticism I've seen about it seems to rest entirely on people either upset that we didn't see the aliens at the end this is why i hated it as a kid lmao. But i saw it much later on and I teared up super hard. It's a great film.
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Apr 17, 2020 19:08
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It's one of those movies that works a lot better when you realise it's not actually meant to be about the aliens.
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Apr 17, 2020 19:31
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Another Green Hornet movie is in development. No real details beyond PR speak yetquote:Amasia won the feature film franchise rights to the Green Hornet in January with Amasia’s co-founders Michael Helfant and Bradley Gallo producing. Helfant is a veteran Hollywood executive who was president and chief operating officer of Marvel Studios for several years starting in 2005. https://variety.com/2020/film/news/green-hornet-kato-movie-universal-1234582372/
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Apr 17, 2020 19:54
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DeimosRising posted:You can’t just throw the Jeanne Dielman gag in there and not expound on it Besides just being a better evocation of someone mechanically trudging through life in the city, Dielman has an the advantage over BR2 in that it makes the female sex worker the protagonist instead of some cop. Also, going into spoiler territory, Dielman is specifically about Jeanne breaking violently from her monotonous routine when she receives the titular letter, in which Jeanne's sister describes her marriage to a Canadian man. Reading the letter provokes all these disruptive fantasies about sensitive lumberjacks or whatever, causing Jeanne to short-circuit and sabotage her own life. It's not too different from how Joseph K. 'becomes human' when he, basically, strongly identifies with an autobiographical short film directed by Stelline. Plus, Dielman's aesthetic evokes surveillance better than BR2 does.
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Apr 17, 2020 20:36
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Besides just being a better evocation of someone mechanically trudging through life in the city, Dielman has an the advantage over BR2 in that it makes the female sex worker the protagonist instead of some cop. Also, going into spoiler territory, Dielman is specifically about Jeanne breaking violently from her monotonous routine when she receives the titular letter, in which Jeanne's sister describes her marriage to a Canadian man. Reading the letter provokes all these disruptive fantasies about sensitive lumberjacks or whatever, causing Jeanne to short-circuit and sabotage her own life. It's not too different from how Joseph K. 'becomes human' when he, basically, strongly identifies with an autobiographical short film directed by Stelline. Haha no I meant how is it a sci fi film, but the contrast in the way they engage with surveillance and voyeurism is a cool thing to consider. Nothing in Blade Runner 2 conveys the same sense of everyday violation by observation as say, watching Jeanne make meatloaf
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Apr 17, 2020 21:04
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Tars Tarkas posted:Another Green Hornet movie is in development. No real details beyond PR speak yet Adapting this stuff is such an exercise in futility. Either you do a faithful adaptation and the 700 fans praise the film but nobody else sees it because you've made something very niche, or you do an unfaithful adaptation and the 700 fans are mad and the blogs write scathing articles and the masses are either unaware of the IP's legacy or are actively turned off by it. Either way, nobody sees it. There are rare exceptions like the Banderas Zorro movies, but almost every other pulp adaptation has been a huge failure, either creatively, commercially, or both. You can do a modern version of Batman or Superman or any of those early comic book heroes because there is a popular version of them that has continued to evolve and change and grow into modern times. There is a trial-and-error allowable in comic books because if someone doesn't like your reboot then you can go and retcon it a few years later, or just shove it down their throats long enough that a new creator will come along and iron out all those details and update it to a version that people do like. But updating The Green Hornet to modern times is going to be tough, because there isn't a modern day popular version of the character out there (outside of occasionally trying a modern reboot that comes and goes immediately and never stuck). So at that point you have to make the whole thing up from whole cloth, which doesn't feel authentic. And if you don't, then your characters are stuck in the past. So if you're in these people's positions, you either divorce it from the IP and try something new (and wind up with Green Hornet 2011 all over again), or you do an authentic version that nobody cares about regardless of quality (John Carter, The Shadow, The Phantom, The Lone Ranger, The Legend of Tarzan, etc, etc). Not that I'd complain if we get an old-school film serial style 1940s-set Green Hornet, I just have a hard time imagining anyone financing that. feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Apr 17, 2020 |
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Apr 17, 2020 23:47
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They should just make like a failure adventures with all the IPs that people apparently can't make successful. Green Hornet, King Arthur, and Robin Hood team up to, I dunno, adapt to a modern world?
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Apr 17, 2020 23:53
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We still doing top 5 scifi? 1. End of Evangelion 2. Dune 3. Alien 3 4. Primer 5. Phase IV
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Apr 17, 2020 23:58
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GrandpaPants posted:They should just make like a failure adventures with all the IPs that people apparently can't make successful. Green Hornet, King Arthur, and Robin Hood team up to, I dunno, adapt to a modern world? ...Well, after trying to write out two different attempts at a post on this subject, I feel like I've come to the conclusion that the difference is actually pretty negligible. Both are IPs stuck in their respective time periods. Whether you want to update the time period or the sensibility, either way you're creating something that feels unauthentic, or at best feels like a twist on something that your audience isn't already familiar with. Working through this idea I was struck by something else I read today. It was Tarantino reflecting on why Grindhouse was a failure: Quentin Tarantino posted:With Grindhouse, I think me and Robert just felt that people had a little more of a concept of the history of double features and exploitation movies… No, they didn’t. At all. They had no idea what the gently caress they were watching. It meant nothing to them—'Alright, what we were doing?' So that was a case of being a little too cool for school. I think this is the same problem facing both classic legends and pulp heroes. Film nerds are naturally cultural archeologists who have a ton more context on the place that these IPs have in cinematic or literary history. The general public just doesn't give a poo poo about a wealthy guy fighting 1940s gangsters or King Richard's socialist pal, regardless of their rich storytelling history. Either way, a 20 year old is going to look at the trailer and think "Why would I want to watch this?" and compare it to whatever mediocre movie The Rock is making GBS threads out this month. And then they're going to go to that instead, because they know and like The Rock and they don't give a poo poo about a guy running around in green cloth in a world they don't have any connection to or interest in and probably only know about because of that English class they didn't pay much attention in. e: That being said, please please please someone make a proper 1930s Doc Savage movie. It won't make money but I promise to never shut up about it for years after its release. feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Apr 18, 2020 |
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Apr 18, 2020 00:20
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GrandpaPants posted:They should just make like a failure adventures with all the IPs that people apparently can't make successful. Green Hornet, King Arthur, and Robin Hood team up to, I dunno, adapt to a modern world? Am I missing a  or are you unintentionally trying to invent League of Extraordinary Gentlemen?
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Apr 18, 2020 00:20
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GrandpaPants posted:They should just make like a failure adventures with all the IPs that people apparently can't make successful. Green Hornet, King Arthur, and Robin Hood team up to, I dunno, adapt to a modern world? On Mars.
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Apr 18, 2020 00:20
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The MSJ posted:You know, people make jokes about creepy porn fan art when a Sonic movie was announced but I just watched Pixels and this movie's happy ending includes one of the heroes boning Q'bert. The MSJ posted:
*Adam Sandler gets shot in the face by a naked sweaty General George Armstrong Custer*
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Apr 18, 2020 00:37
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Chairman Capone posted:I agree. Every single criticism I've seen about it seems to rest entirely on people either upset that we didn't see the aliens at the end or people somehow thinking the ending meant her dad was an alien the whole time. I forget what else came out the same year but I almost want to say it was mismarketed as something else. At the very least nobody knew what to make of it
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Apr 18, 2020 00:56
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GrandpaPants posted:They should just make like a failure adventures with all the IPs that people apparently can't make successful. Green Hornet, King Arthur, and Robin Hood team up to, I dunno, adapt to a modern world?  a movie about robin hood trying to get americans to stop worshiping the rich would be funny
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Alan Smithee posted:I forget what else came out the same year but I almost want to say it was mismarketed as something else. At the very least nobody knew what to make of it This made me interested to see what else came out the same year as Contact (1997). Top movies: Titanic The Lost World: Jurassic Park Men in Black Tomorrow Never Dies Air Force One As Good as It Gets Liar Liar My Best Friend's Wedding The Fifth Element The Full Monty Also the year of the Star Wars Special Editions... did the TPM teaser come out in 1997, too? I forgot that Contact was also Zemeckis' follow-up to Forrest Gump. Also that George Miller (!) began the pre-production process and even cast Jodie Foster but was kicked out by the studio when he wanted a few extra weeks to rewrite the script.
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