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Veni Vidi Ameche!
Nov 2, 2017

by Fluffdaddy

Oh, gently caress.

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CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.
You ask that every few weeks, ugh!

corgski
Feb 6, 2007

Silly goose, you're here forever.

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

She literally posted about how she was pissed off at some of the people who would not let drama drop in TGRS.


LITERALLY A BIRD posted:

Oh, yes, that's certainly true. I may have mistranslated corgski's post.

Yeah, this is what I meant. Sorry I wasn't more clear!

Iron Prince
Aug 28, 2005
Buglord
can’t BUST the KRUST

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Dixville posted:

I just remembered wetlegs6. Thats was such an amazing thread to watch unfold in real time.

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3045867&pagenumber=18&perpage=40

I read a bit of that, and noticed this post:
:nws:https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3045867&pagenumber=18&perpage=40#post354435435:nws:
Someone's 100,000 hour probation is going to expire in less than half a year! Given the post they were probated for, I hope they don't notice.

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


Iron Prince posted:

can’t BUST the KRUST

I still start laughing to myself every once in a while when GRILL THE MEATS, FILL THE STREETS pops into my head

weed cat
Dec 23, 2010

weed cat is back, and he loves to suck dick



:sueme:

Buttcoin purse posted:

I read a bit of that, and noticed this post:
:nws:https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3045867&pagenumber=18&perpage=40#post354435435:nws:
Someone's 100,000 hour probation is going to expire in less than half a year! Given the post they were probated for, I hope they don't notice.

:wtc: we have 172 days to upgrade to a perma

there's another 100k probe that's due to expire soon, for a much lesser post, and I am gonna make a "welcome back" thread for them in GBS so we can all have a good laugh.

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

zoom-zoom
Toilet Rascal

Ghostlight posted:

it's not hypocrisy because she didn't post it to the forums

Absurd Alhazred posted:

I never understood what exactly was "hypocritical" about a mod not wanting porn in a non-porn comedy forum while writing smut that only willing and verified adults would read.

Agreed

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Ghost Leviathan posted:

TGRS probably still has more active users than end-stage FYAD did.

I think Eggplant Wizard more got laughed off the forums for the hypocrisy of locking porn related threads while having written reams of rape incest werewolf porn.

It has way, way, way less after the new mod chased off all the trans posters.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Who What Now posted:

It has way, way, way less after the new mod chased off all the trans posters.
Wait what the gently caress?

Goddamn. FYAD related crazy really precipitated this crazy rear end year.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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TGRS is always such a poo poo show. Well, the little bits I catch wind of anyways.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
I think it all gets pretty conspiratorial. I don't think a lot of these things are particularly related.

Pigsfeet on Rye
Oct 22, 2008

I'm meat on the hoof

Solice Kirsk posted:

TGRS is always such a poo poo show. Well, the little bits I catch wind of anyways.

Should I even ask what TGRS is?

xcheopis
Jul 23, 2003


Solice Kirsk posted:

TGRS is always such a poo poo show. Well, the little bits I catch wind of anyways.

No, generally it isn't. It was also not exceptionally active until late last year, since it's a space for minority posters to post in peace about media depictions of minorities, etc.
The posters demanding that it be disappeared because "we're not posting there now" came across as sheer colonialist mind-set.
"I'm not using this resource, so obviously it should be trashed because obviously the people who posted there from its creation just don't matter" is loving bonkers.

xcheopis
Jul 23, 2003


Pigsfeet on Rye posted:

Should I even ask what TGRS is?

The Great Race Space.

Brute Squad
Dec 20, 2006

Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human race

FilthyImp posted:

Wait what the gently caress?

Goddamn. FYAD related crazy really precipitated this crazy rear end year.

Yeah, it was after a few of the posters tried to defend repeatedly calling the black mod "uppity".

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface

Yeah thats not what happened.

What happened is that there were dedicated semi-kosher NSFW threads that poo poo was getting posted into and basically what happened is the PYF Boobs thread got shut down for being porn that she did not like while the PYF Dicks thread was allowed to stay open because they liked that one more and posted in it. Regardless, if you clicked on the thread you knew you were going to see porn so its not like goons got exposed to poo poo they didn't want to see.


The erotic fiction stuff spiraled out from that and added to the hypocrisy but the core claim for being a hypocrit was closing one thread but not the other. Goons got pissed and basically started searching her posts which led to some posts in the writing subforum about writing erotic fiction which led to them doxxing her.

I am not 100% certain that it was her, but I am 100% certain a lady mod got run off because of this, and in that sequence of events.

Telsa Cola fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Apr 18, 2020

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Brute Squad posted:

Yeah, it was after a few of the posters tried to defend repeatedly calling the black mod "uppity".

:ohno:

SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013
It was very bizarre since I think the thing that caused people to start calling the mod "uppity" was something about the FYAD offsite and someone demanding something be done about it, which is odd since no one on this site can do anything about it and the only thing to do is to just keep on posting and not post anything of a sensitive personal nature (or at the least poo poo that can lead someone to your house). I feel annoyed about some aspects of how the FYAD poo poo got handled but the people that were actually spreading harmful poo poo (like the rear end in a top hat posting 4chan poo poo making fun of trans people or the person who signed off from the site saying to kill all LGBT people) were kicked off Something Awful really quick. I'm not sure what else the people who left TGRS/MR really want other than complete domination over the 6 people left, which is an impulse I had until I realized it was really stupid and another sign of my terrible brain problem that compels me to fight with people.

xcheopis
Jul 23, 2003


SunAndSpring posted:

over the 6 people left,

Please don't do this. "Not always very active" is not the same as "only a few people"; that's the same attitude I just mentioned above.

SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013

xcheopis posted:

Please don't do this. "Not always very active" is not the same as "only a few people"; that's the same attitude I just mentioned above.

I was referring to the handful of FYAD regulars who didn't already move on to the offsite.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

corgski posted:

GBS 2.0 was what drove me away from the forums for years, and I only really came back in like 2016 after the culture had started to swing back towards "being a little poo poo for laughs is pathetic actually"

I definitely still miss having a good current events forum, GBS 1.0 was good at being that. Now D&D is just absolutely tedious and C-SPAM is great for blowing off steam but also the intersection of every conspiracy theory ever.

E: v goddamnit, i hate that I'm agreeing with pick

GBS 2.0 is why I started posting in PYF so much, it had the kind of serious posting old GBS had. Mods like BroJo and EW were heavy handed but the current mod team has been really good, I like the “I swear to god I WILL TURN THIS CAR AROUND” post approach over throwing probations and bans around all the time.

xcheopis
Jul 23, 2003


SunAndSpring posted:

I was referring to the handful of FYAD regulars who didn't already move on to the offsite.

Ah, my apologies.

t-.-t
Nov 25, 2006

Brute Squad posted:

Yeah, it was after a few of the posters tried to defend repeatedly calling the black mod "uppity".

wait, what? I don't remember that happening at all.

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface
There was also a click of posters who did that thing where "X mod/poster can do no wrong and actually it is you who are wrong" who formed around whichever mod closed the Boobs thread who basically went "Actually this porn thread is cool and good (because we all post in it) while your porn thread is gross and bad"

I think that was the first time I had ever seen a click form like that in realtime.

t-.-t posted:

wait, what? I don't remember that happening at all.

I can totally see it being said directly, but there was loaaaads of dogwhistle about it.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

FilthyImp posted:

Wait what the gently caress?

Don't worry, he was very logical and perfectly objective about it lmao

E:

SunAndSpring posted:

It was very bizarre since I think the thing that caused people to start calling the mod "uppity" was something about the FYAD offsite and someone demanding something be done about it,

Not one single person demanded anyone do anything about FYAD's off-site. What they wanted was to be able to tell other posters if and when FYAD was stalking the sub again. To which the answer was that warning fellow posters would net you a ban.

Who What Now fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Apr 18, 2020

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
Considering that the vast majority of people who were upset with how those parts of the forums talked openly of creating an offsite since late last year, and we know they did, I think it's fair to assume that instead of yet another conspiracy, they went to post in the place they said they were going to go post on.

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

Brute Squad posted:

Yeah, it was after a few of the posters tried to defend repeatedly calling the black mod "uppity".

I don't remember seeing "uppity" but I was uncomfortable with a few posters saying he was being "too aggressive"

SunAndSpring posted:

I'm not sure what else the people who left TGRS/MR really want other than complete domination over the 6 people left, which is an impulse I had until I realized it was really stupid and another sign of my terrible brain problem that compels me to fight with people.

I don't think there was ever going to be a satisfying solution to the root problem of people lurking the trans threads for doxxing or mocking material other than what inevitably ended up happening, with a lot of trans discussion migrating to a private forum that only accepts new users by referral. SA has no way to stop disaffected creeps from buying lurker accounts to watch threads, and I know the trans threads were popular targets for KiwiFarms and SASS/Something Sensitive for years before all this started. And when Lowtax floated that as a suggestion on SA directly, it was shot down because having a hidden forum just feels like you're hiding away the users when they have the right to post publicly and proudly, on top of it being an important resource for lurkers who are questioning their own identity. People should be able to post and share and even overshare in a welcoming public community, and it sucks that this keeps happening.

The active posters on SA are generally pretty cool and supportive, but SA's history all but guarantees that disaffected psychos are always on the fringe and I don't know if anything besides massive shifts in IRL culture will change that. SA and anyone who volunteers to babysit these forums really aren't equipped to solve societal ills on that scale.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012
I saw a slice of the TGRS drama in that a new mod or whoever who wasn't considered acceptable by the forum stars got poo poo on endlessly for "not understanding the culture"

Maybe that was true, but one of the key points was that mod referred to trans poster as being "extra" and then was dogpiled for trans slurs.

Is saying some is being a little extra a slur?

And one of the popular hearsay things was KM was trying to make a list of who was and wasn't allowed to post in TGRS. Didn't seem like that bad an idea but someone said they were told they had to prove they were a POC to get approved.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
The new mod was selected by Koalas March who had been dragged something fierce, but who the same people later said they adored and miss. It feels like revisionism to downplay that KM was treated very poorly. There had been calls for her to step down which is about as strong as it gets for a mod.

SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013
I think the only thing that would kill off sites like Kiwi Farms would be that proposal to revise Section 230 but that opens up a whole other can of worms in terms of free speech on the internet and so on.

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

pentyne posted:

I saw a slice of the TGRS drama in that a new mod or whoever who wasn't considered acceptable by the forum stars got poo poo on endlessly for "not understanding the culture"

Maybe that was true, but one of the key points was that mod referred to trans poster as being "extra" and then was dogpiled for trans slurs.

Is saying some is being a little extra a slur?

Telling trans people they're being overdramatic is in the same boat as the posters who were telling the black mod he was being aggressive: not a literal slur, per se, but an argument commonly used to dehumanize and belittle the groups in question. Not a good look for anybody.

xcheopis
Jul 23, 2003


pentyne posted:

I saw a slice of the TGRS drama in that a new mod or whoever who wasn't considered acceptable by the forum stars got poo poo on endlessly for "not understanding the culture"

Maybe that was true, but one of the key points was that mod referred to trans poster as being "extra" and then was dogpiled for trans slurs.

Is saying some is being a little extra a slur?

And one of the popular hearsay things was KM was trying to make a list of who was and wasn't allowed to post in TGRS. Didn't seem like that bad an idea but someone said they were told they had to prove they were a POC to get approved.

Hearsay, yes.

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

👁️🔥👁️👁️👁️BE NOT👄AFRAID👁️👁️👁️🔥👁️

Antivehicular posted:

Telling trans people they're being overdramatic is in the same boat as the posters who were telling the black mod he was being aggressive: not a literal slur, per se, but an argument commonly used to dehumanize and belittle the groups in question. Not a good look for anybody.
Yeah, I agree with this. Even if you do think someone is being overdramatic or aggressive, there's better ways to handle it.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Can we still say people are acting like dicks?

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011
<-I still have red text from the posters in the trans thread turning into their own clique and trying to exile people they didn't like. Specifically I started talking about queer sexuality and politics in a way they didn't approve of, and then Koalas March backed them up. The trans stuff in TMS (previously TGRS) went quiet because Fluffdaddy became mod and said he wasn't going to let the clique run the thread or the subforum any more, so a bunch of the posters dropped off and headed for I guess that cspam offsite?

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
You got the redtext because you kept posting super gross poo poo that literally nobody wanted to read.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Who What Now posted:

You got the redtext because you kept posting super gross poo poo that literally nobody wanted to read.

If you're part of that contingent and you think arguing for sexual positivity and openness in queer spaces is "super gross poo poo" you have issues, whoever you are.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
There's a difference between sex positivity and oversharing the details of your latest hook up.

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Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Who What Now posted:

There's a difference between sex positivity and oversharing the details of your latest hook up.

I did absolutely nothing of the sort. Are you maybe thinking about the other poster who tried to go "hey I felt really gender euphoric and appreciated in my local queer community now that I've been to an orgy?" Who also got shut down, etc etc.

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