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sweet geek swag
Mar 29, 2006

Adjust lasers to FUN!





Is there anyplace where the whole scope of Goonswarm's insane wars has been posted? It's kind of insane how successful it has been.

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FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
I've long said that Goonfleet/swarm deserves a writeup.

If not in a book then in an American Culture thesis paper.

Metis of the Chat Thread
Aug 1, 2014


Anne Whateley posted:

At SA's peak, there were so many goons and they were so good that they dominated basically everything. One summer I was really into a very silly game called Puzzle Pirates, and there was a goon guild and it dominated. Goons were everywhere. And of course they destroyed and griefed their opponents, which didn't build goodwill

drat I loved Puzzle Pirates when I was younger. Any fun stories from that time?

Foul Ole Ron
Jan 6, 2005

All of you, please don't rush, everyone do the Guybrush!
Fun Shoe
I joined back in 05, back in the heyday of catlady GBS 1.0, back when goon meets were massive, the usual big names made comedy gold and radium still... "programmed".

To me that was peak SA, where being a goon was mocked internally but at the same time if anyone outside of SA took a swipe, you could count on a swarm of goons to jump in and help you... Just because for kicks and to wreck poo poo.

I never really played many mmorpgs, but back then, if you did you not only had a guild that had your back, but you had access to a huge treasure trove of gear to get you started.

It was crazy and the forums were so busy, if any clan needed muscle, all that was needed was a half decent GBS thread. Good Times.

Foul Ole Ron fucked around with this message at 00:57 on Apr 19, 2020

Tribladeofchaos
Jul 2, 2008

IT'S SHOWTIME!

Speaking of goons loving with MMOs, what was that Chinese MMO that they would constantly grief? Age of Wushu or something like that?

They would pick the drunkard fighting style where they could puke on everyone making people slip and get disoriented. And since the game had a feature where players could be jailed for attacking other players and have a bounty put on them, goons would goad people into killing them while the rest of them would kill the guy and steal all their stuff.

Shut up Meg
Jan 8, 2019

You're safe here.

LITERALLY A BIRD posted:


I have avoided stifling discussion in here as I am aware if a mod tries to change the conversation when another mod is the subject people get upset. But please God I am begging you, loving BEGGING you all to stop using this thread the way you've been using it recently. It was one of my favorite threads in the past; I got excited when I saw new posts. For the last week seeing a heap of new posts immediately pulls my mood down into unhappiness. The world sucks, my job sucks, life sucks, I want to loving die every day so please give me one days break, just one, so I am not crying in the bathroom while I try to swipe this post or another one like it on my phone every goddamn day. Please. Just go to QCS with this and let people who want to just HAVE FUN in one place in this loving reality HAVE FUN.

Thank you for trying and thank you for the bird pics, Pick.

I have nothing of relevance to post to this thread, but I just wanted to say that I think you are a nice person and I hope life gets more fun for you.

SyNack Sassimov
May 4, 2006

Let the robot win.
            --Captain James T. Vader


LITERALLY A BIRD posted:

Thank you for trying and thank you for the bird pics, Pick.

I actually assumed she was posting pics of you reacting to the last couple pages.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Super Soaker Party! posted:

I actually assumed she was posting pics of you reacting to the last couple pages.

a picture can be two things

SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL
Feb 21, 2006

Holy Moly! DARKSEID IS!

My strongest memory of goons messing with MMOs was someone discovering a very niche game where you were some sort of deer spirit. Goons started griefing by having their character neigh constantly and the back and forth between mitigation attempts by the devs and goons upping the ante ending in the MMO having an apocalypse and ending. Unsure if it restarted once goons got bored but in retrospect it felt like a “huh-huh loving furries” attack on a small community and I’m not proud for laughing at it back in the day.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
Reaganbook is still the greatest griefing SA has ever or will ever do.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:

My strongest memory of goons messing with MMOs was someone discovering a very niche game where you were some sort of deer spirit. Goons started griefing by having their character neigh constantly and the back and forth between mitigation attempts by the devs and goons upping the ante ending in the MMO having an apocalypse and ending. Unsure if it restarted once goons got bored but in retrospect it felt like a “huh-huh loving furries” attack on a small community and I’m not proud for laughing at it back in the day.

The Endless Forest

LITERALLY A BIRD
Sep 27, 2008

I knew you were trouble
when you flew in

Thanks, Meg. I'll be fine. A lot of people are in much worse situations but stress and emotions never care about that sort of logic, and I tend to have a lot of stress and emotions even at the best of times.

Thanks everyone else too for changing the subject for the moment. I'm sorry for the dam break.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

Who What Now posted:

Reaganbook is still the greatest griefing SA has ever or will ever do.

I really enjoyed LARPing as Leonidas on one of those right wing facebooks.

LITERALLY A BIRD
Sep 27, 2008

I knew you were trouble
when you flew in


:laffo: :h:

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



Age of wushu was the one I think where goons found out you were invincible when performing a drunken fist move so they all just went to the city and drunk fisted everyone else

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The Saddest Rhino posted:

so they all just went to the city and drunk fisted everyone else

Yes, I’ve seen this porno

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:

My strongest memory of goons messing with MMOs was someone discovering a very niche game where you were some sort of deer spirit. Goons started griefing by having their character neigh constantly and the back and forth between mitigation attempts by the devs and goons upping the ante ending in the MMO having an apocalypse and ending. Unsure if it restarted once goons got bored but in retrospect it felt like a “huh-huh loving furries” attack on a small community and I’m not proud for laughing at it back in the day.

I remember laughing at that while lurking. Incidentally, it was a goon raid on another community that had gotten me to join this place. I used to post on Gaia Online (which, at the time, I had taken to trolling myself in very lame and mean-spirited ways because of the really poor way the staff handled several pedophilia rings being uncovered by doing absolutely gently caress all about it.) and at one point goons just stormed through being goons and I was like "These people seem way cooler and more funny." And then I lurked for a while before joining after the paywall came up.

Foul Ole Ron
Jan 6, 2005

All of you, please don't rush, everyone do the Guybrush!
Fun Shoe
As much griefing that happend back in the day, I remember at least some of it could be not totally blamed on SA.

Hell didn't the first great war in Eve (the one began the goons ascent) result from BOB being utter notorious asshat dicks?

I also vaguely remember that Goons loved to take on a major guild leader in Planetscape 2 who was a notorious proto chud.

Foul Ole Ron fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Apr 19, 2020

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

sweet geek swag posted:

Is there anyplace where the whole scope of Goonswarm's insane wars has been posted? It's kind of insane how successful it has been.

There's a short write up of two wars Goonswarm had on Know Your Meme: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/goonswarm-eve-online-great-war

SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:

My strongest memory of goons messing with MMOs was someone discovering a very niche game where you were some sort of deer spirit. Goons started griefing by having their character neigh constantly and the back and forth between mitigation attempts by the devs and goons upping the ante ending in the MMO having an apocalypse and ending. Unsure if it restarted once goons got bored but in retrospect it felt like a “huh-huh loving furries” attack on a small community and I’m not proud for laughing at it back in the day.

They did get griefed for being furries, but some of it was also that the people who played were involved in some intense RP because that was all they could do in the game and the constantly mooing "Penis Fawns" made a lot of them finally break kayfabe to complain. There was a whole front page article about it: https://www.somethingawful.com/mmo-roulette/endlessforest/1/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l9LX7JjZ2s

S.D.
Apr 28, 2008
Someone wrote a book on the history of EVE Online, and naturally Goons are a significant part of it. In fact I believe one of the chapter titles is "ENTER GOONS"

It's hard to understate just how much rep Goonswarm had, and how it leaked into other MMOs. Age of Wushu was mentioned (there was an event where the in-game moderators put bounties on themselves to encourage PVP play, so naturally goons formed a protective circle around them and took on all comers), but Star Trek Online had Starfleet Dental/Nerds of Prey, where griefing was a matter of either getting a fire extinguisher from an early mision and then hosing people down with white clouds in the social areas, or deploying goofy disco balls that you can buy during events that cause everyone, player and NPC alike, to start going through various dance emotes.

Pathfinder Online was specifically advertised during its Kickstarter to be anti-griefer, and while I can't remember the details anymore I have no doubt that Goonswarm-esque tactics were what people were thinking about. Pathfinder Online also basically never made it out of its alpha stage of development, so that tells you how popular it was.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug
I have a link somewhere that I need to dig up, but the Crimson Haze thread ruled. Goons basically grieving an MMO that didn’t exist by an overly enthusiastic nerd high on his own farts.


E:found it!


https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3358114&perpage=40

A lot of the images are broken but it’s still a fun read and one of my favorite memories of the forums.

Ugly In The Morning fucked around with this message at 01:42 on Apr 19, 2020

Hub Cat
Aug 3, 2011

Trunk Lover

That bloody turd logo from the second thread.


I always have to laugh at how these OPs get real earnest advice from people that seem to know what they're talking about but instead of owning up and maybe learning something they insist on shitposting and rolling with the punches because of their wounded pride.

Hub Cat fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Apr 19, 2020

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



The Saddest Rhino posted:

Age of wushu was the one I think where goons found out you were invincible when performing a drunken fist move so they all just went to the city and drunk fisted everyone else
also the one where goons ran book-stealing trains and rigged local elections by provoking candidates into attacking them then dragging them off to jail so they were unable to show up to be voted for.

it was definitely the high-point of the griefing thread(s).

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

S.D. posted:

Pathfinder Online was specifically advertised during its Kickstarter to be anti-griefer, and while I can't remember the details anymore I have no doubt that Goonswarm-esque tactics were what people were thinking about. Pathfinder Online also basically never made it out of its alpha stage of development, so that tells you how popular it was.

The lead developer at the time, Ryan Dancey, was like "Hoo man we have so many plans to stop those naughty goons from griefing us! Don't worry they should stay far away!" Meanwhile SA posters looked at Pathfinder Online and realized it was boring and buggy heck and not in the "entertaining exploits to annoy people with" way and never even engaged with the game. Speaking of which, Ryan Dancey is something of an astounding snake oil salesman who also worked on EVE Online for a while and was fired after his money grab schemes like overpriced monocles cased massive backlash. He's also hosed around with various schemes in table top gaming that all end disastrously, but he manages to be far, far away by the time they implode.

There was a great writeup of Pathfinder Online and Ryan Dancey himself on Medium here: https://medium.com/@kaitave/whatever-happened-to-pathfinder-online-anyway-addd9ee51c81

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007
I was a part of a lot of the STO goon antics which started in early 2011 but ran between thereabouts and I guess 2015.

Honestly, most of the humor value revolved around poking people who had an enormous head on their shoulders while rolling around the social areas with a character they were "RPing" which was always some flavor of child sexual abuse, sex slavery, or outright porn just written out there and then.

It was worth it, and one of the occasions I remember that I personally participated in involved a carefully orchestrated charade, via someone's ingame ready room, to convince someone that all they had to do to join Shut Up Wesley (the now defunct goon fleet, but the other main ones still exist) was to pay ten bucks to join SA and post an intro thread in either FYAD or GBS. I am pretty sure it's the latter and I'm 100% sure the thread still exists somewhere. It played out exactly as you would expect.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug
The old griefing thread was fun when people weren’t loving it up.


https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2886637&perpage=40

The problem is a lot of modern MMO’s just don’t have the same potential for shenanigans.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Yeah the greifing thread went downhill when that one guy rolled in going "we told a woman we were going to rape her in her stream lol griefed!" and "i griefed the thread :smug:"

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



that was what finally killed the thread but it had already had multiple timeouts by that point for various goons posting "griefs" that were basically just them doxing people or yelling slurs over voice chat.

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic
In hindsight, something probably should've been done about the people so adamantly defending their right to say a slur then and there instead of letting it lay for several years more.

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

Malachite_Dragon posted:

In hindsight, something probably should've been done about the people so adamantly defending their right to say a slur then and there instead of letting it lay for several years more.

Yeah that is how hindsight works, congratulations.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

sweet geek swag posted:

Is there anyplace where the whole scope of Goonswarm's insane wars has been posted? It's kind of insane how successful it has been.

They made a whole book about it:

https://www.amazon.com/Empires-EVE-History-Great-Online/dp/0990972402

Splash Attack
Mar 23, 2008

Yeahhh!
I am GHOS!!
Haaaaaa Ha Ha Ha!!




wasn't there a article written about how goons rescued a bunch of people from a lovely player in eve who basically was holding people hostage in game and forcing them to mine for him or something?

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



When i think about it, the thing i miss the most about old old GBS isnt the news stuff, its the pants making GBS threads

regular threads about whatever and the op shat themselves & they made me laugh

i would like to be able to return to that innocence

xcheopis
Jul 23, 2003


Carthag Tuek posted:

When i think about it, the thing i miss the most about old old GBS isnt the news stuff, its the pants making GBS threads

regular threads about whatever and the op shat themselves & they made me laugh

i would like to be able to return to that innocence

Goon coprophilia still weirds me out.

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


Ugly In The Morning posted:

The old griefing thread was fun when people weren’t loving it up.


https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2886637&perpage=40

The problem is a lot of modern MMO’s just don’t have the same potential for shenanigans.

That thread was closed almost four years ago. Perhaps moderators could better control it today (or perhaps not, it's not really my job to say).

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

.

That's an expensive book.

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

FuturePastNow posted:

That thread was closed almost four years ago. Perhaps moderators could better control it today (or perhaps not, it's not really my job to say).

I can't believe it's been four years.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



xcheopis posted:

Goon coprophilia still weirds me out.

It's not the poop that is funny, it's the person who poops.

It's could be something else embarrassing

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Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

Carthag Tuek posted:

When i think about it, the thing i miss the most about old old GBS isnt the news stuff, its the pants making GBS threads

regular threads about whatever and the op shat themselves & they made me laugh

i would like to be able to return to that innocence

I remember that there had been so many threads about goons with horrible rear end boils that there was a concept of an "annual pilonidal cyst thread" but I don't remember what the last one I actually saw was

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