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DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.

ilmucche posted:

Pretty sure there was one judge who straight up refused to eat the Japanese chef's food. How do you apply to be a judge on a cooking show then refuse to eat?

Go ask Scott Conant regarding red onions.

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Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



Lipstick Apathy

docbeard posted:

It's been a while since I've watched it but I recall the extended DVD cut of the BSG finale actually addressed the whole "giving up our technology entirely would be really dumb" thing a bit. My memory is that the various groups actually did take what supplies they had left with them, and they were just explicitly not looking to rebuild Colonial culture and rather just blend in with the indigenous people.

Of course if that's in a version that the majority of people never saw, that's a problem in itself.

Also, re the "angels? In my science fiction?!?" discussion, the original BSG had superior aliens angels too, to say nothing of the literal Space Devil turning up at one point. I was actually hoping that would happen in the revival too, though Dean Stockwell performing chunks of Paradise Lost was close enough.

wasn't the original basically just a sci-fi retelling of the book of mormon?

Schubalts
Nov 26, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life, I think I've gone too far.
Iron Chef was scripted as hell, especially when it came to starting drama. Just like 90% of cooking competition shows.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

docbeard posted:

It's been a while since I've watched it but I recall the extended DVD cut of the BSG finale actually addressed the whole "giving up our technology entirely would be really dumb" thing a bit. My memory is that the various groups actually did take what supplies they had left with them, and they were just explicitly not looking to rebuild Colonial culture and rather just blend in with the indigenous people.

Of course if that's in a version that the majority of people never saw, that's a problem in itself.

Also, re the "angels? In my science fiction?!?" discussion, the original BSG had superior aliens angels too, to say nothing of the literal Space Devil turning up at one point. I was actually hoping that would happen in the revival too, though Dean Stockwell performing chunks of Paradise Lost was close enough.

I'd heard about the "ffs it was angels all along" ending long before I'd started watching BSG, and I honestly think it improved the expierence. It's clear from the episode where Caprica 6 starts to hallucinate Baltar that there's something supernatural going on.

Really, BSGs problem is that it half-assed the religious stuff. S1 ended with definitive proof of the historical accuracy of their Bible, and with half the fleet declaring the President to be some kind of prophet. Then they just kinda shrug it off, get back to incompetent space-politics and barely mention religion until the final season.

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

Ambitious Spider posted:

wasn't the original basically just a sci-fi retelling of the book of mormon?

I've never been clear on just how on-the-nose it all is but yeah, I've heard this too.

Strom Cuzewon posted:

I'd heard about the "ffs it was angels all along" ending long before I'd started watching BSG, and I honestly think it improved the expierence. It's clear from the episode where Caprica 6 starts to hallucinate Baltar that there's something supernatural going on.

Really, BSGs problem is that it half-assed the religious stuff. S1 ended with definitive proof of the historical accuracy of their Bible, and with half the fleet declaring the President to be some kind of prophet. Then they just kinda shrug it off, get back to incompetent space-politics and barely mention religion until the final season.

Yeah, I honestly didn't mind the religious component at all, and I agree with your assessment here, broadly. I loved nu-BSG and still think it's one of the better science fiction TV series of the last 25 years but I think it works best considered as some excellent individual stories and character studies linked together by bullshit.

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

"Excellent individual stories/character studies linked together by bullshit" describes most of my favorite TV series, come to think of it.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Apparently the original idea for the end of season one of Battlestar Galactica was that God would appear to Baltar, portrayed by Dirk Benedict, but before that he gave several interviews where he complained about how women are supposed to have children and maintain the kitchen instead of acting on television and destroyed the last remnants of his career.

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

Apparently the original idea for the end of season one of Battlestar Galactica was that God would appear to Baltar, portrayed by Dirk Benedict, but before that he gave several interviews where he complained about how women are supposed to have children and maintain the kitchen instead of acting on television and destroyed the last remnants of his career.

Yeah, I remember Ron Moore talking about this on a commentary for a bit. It sounded very much like he loved the image of Dirk Benedict turning up all "Hi, I'm God" and not knowing what it meant or where it was going. Which is also why the song "All Along The Watchtower" featured so heavily without any actual reasoning.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
And why the Opera House imagery just lead to a few characters standing around in specific spots in the finale.

Polaron
Oct 13, 2010

The Oncoming Storm

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

Apparently the original idea for the end of season one of Battlestar Galactica was that God would appear to Baltar, portrayed by Dirk Benedict, but before that he gave several interviews where he complained about how women are supposed to have children and maintain the kitchen instead of acting on television and destroyed the last remnants of his career.

All because Starbuck was being played by a woman, too.

I loved Katee Sackhoff's reaction to that. Something along the lines of "Well I've already played the character longer than he has so I don't know what authority he has to speak on it."

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

docbeard posted:

Yeah, I remember Ron Moore talking about this on a commentary for a bit. It sounded very much like he loved the image of Dirk Benedict turning up all "Hi, I'm God" and not knowing what it meant or where it was going. Which is also why the song "All Along The Watchtower" featured so heavily without any actual reasoning.

I kind of appreciate how open he was about doing everything as they went along, as that's obviously how tv almost always goes, out of necessity if not for any other reason. I remember another commentary track on season one where he and one of the writers discuss the idea of either keeping or blowing up the other battlestar that Ensign Ro commanded and come to a decision right on the spot--they keep calling it "the thing," but it's obvious in retrospect what they're talking about. That might be a little too open to improvising, but it took the show in interesting places for the characters, if not the story.

Groke
Jul 27, 2007
New Adventures In Mom Strength

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:

That blu-ray vs hd-dvd one is completely false. Porn backed hd-dvd.

Surely, though, the role of physical media in that industry must have been fading by then?

SneezeOfTheDecade
Feb 6, 2011

gettin' covid all
over your posts

Groke posted:

Surely, though, the role of physical media in that industry must have been fading by then?

Physical media was still an enormous market in the mid-2000s and sales were only just starting to decline when the PS3 launched. Less than half of US adults had broadband internet at home in early 2007; of those who said they used the internet regularly, almost 25% were on dial-up. Internet porn was certainly a thing (and had been since Usenet and Archie), but it wasn't most people's primary source. (DVD sales source, broadband source)

Magnus Manfist
Mar 10, 2013

InediblePenguin posted:

Early sources state he was killed by an arrow to the heel. The story about his mother dipping him in the river, thus granting him immortality so his heel was literally the only place he could have been shot, was from later sources.

The best part about Achilles being killed by a arrow in the heel is that earlier on Paris shoots Diomedes in the foot and he's just like "lol eat poo poo dude that didn't even hurt"

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Polaron posted:

All because Starbuck was being played by a woman, too.

I loved Katee Sackhoff's reaction to that. Something along the lines of "Well I've already played the character longer than he has so I don't know what authority he has to speak on it."
Hah loving :iceburn:

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.

Magnus Manfist posted:

The best part about Achilles being killed by a arrow in the heel is that earlier on Paris shoots Diomedes in the foot and he's just like "lol eat poo poo dude that didn't even hurt"

I think my favourite take on Achilles is in the Dynasty Warriors spinoff Legends of Troy - he gets shot in the heel in a lucky hit, then he basically gets turned into a pincushion as Paris just keeps firing at him. The heel didn't directly kill him, but it allowed Paris to fill him full of arrows. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLrkRlvHQwg

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Oct 30, 2009

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Achilles used to be a warrior til he took an arrow to the heel

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

oldpainless posted:

Achilles used to be a warrior til he took an arrow to the heel

It was his heel turn.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Promoted Pawn posted:

There’s a whole series by Technology Connections about this, it’s pretty good if you have the time and frankly who doesn’t nowadays?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyKRubB5N60

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v019trxfcmg

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Vietnamwees
May 8, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
So there's an episode of Sabrina The Teenage Witch where she makes a special singing ability formula, and by the end of the episode N*Sync all get a taste of it, and that is how they allegedly get their singing talent.

hyperhazard
Dec 4, 2011

I am the one lascivious
With magic potion niveous

BioEnchanted posted:

I think my favourite take on Achilles is in the Dynasty Warriors spinoff Legends of Troy - he gets shot in the heel in a lucky hit, then he basically gets turned into a pincushion as Paris just keeps firing at him. The heel didn't directly kill him, but it allowed Paris to fill him full of arrows. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLrkRlvHQwg

IIRC, they did the same thing in Troy, except it ends up being unintentionally hilarious because Briseis is yelling at Paris the entire time to stop shooting him, which he pointedly ignores.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

Vietnamwees posted:

So there's an episode of Sabrina The Teenage Witch where she makes a special singing ability formula, and by the end of the episode N*Sync all get a taste of it, and that is how they allegedly get their singing talent.

Reported for trolling.

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat

Vietnamwees posted:

So there's an episode of Sabrina The Teenage Witch where she makes a special singing ability formula, and by the end of the episode N*Sync all get a taste of it, and that is how they allegedly get their singing talent.

I always knew their music was magical I just didn't know why.

HairyManling
Jul 20, 2011

No flipping.
Fun Shoe
The singing potion didn’t work. How do people miss that “joke”?

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.

HairyManling posted:

The singing potion didn’t work. How do people miss that “joke”?

Yeah, she sabotaged it at the end of the episode to get her friends back to normal.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

Seriously people, when that episode aired you would have been publicly run out of town for mixing up N*Sync and the Backstreet Boys. Wars were fought over lesser offenses.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

food court bailiff posted:

Seriously people, when that episode aired you would have been publicly run out of town for mixing up N*Sync and the Backstreet Boys. Wars were fought over lesser offenses.

Take That were better, anyway.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
Sev'ral Times

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfSfX5S4Eq8

Jaxts
Apr 29, 2008

Pick posted:

Sev'ral Times

Sev'ral Timez is overrated

Mooseontheloose
May 13, 2003

Jaxts posted:

Sev'ral Timez is overrated

They're no 2ge+her.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

Oh no!😱

Dujour supremecy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwykvrwvWW4

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006


What I hate is that they did basically the same poo poo Josie and the Pussycats did only 4 years too late... but no one appreciated Josie and the Pussycats at the time either. Boy Bands were so inherently mockable that even the good parodies got lost in the shuffle.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
It seems like half the cartoons in the early 00s had a boy band episode. They've proven pretty much immune to parody, and so formulaic and omnipresent that people avoid even the parodies when they can.

RC and Moon Pie
May 5, 2011

The Super Mario Brothers Super Show Captain N and the Adventures of Super Mario 3 had an episode starring Milli Vanilli just before everything went down.

rodbeard
Jul 21, 2005


For some reason this fake band played a free concert at my highschool. The fat guy is Chris Farley's brother. The terminally ill one actually was terminally ill.

Mooseontheloose
May 13, 2003

rodbeard posted:

For some reason this fake band played a free concert at my highschool. The fat guy is Chris Farley's brother. The terminally ill one actually was terminally ill.

I loved the show when it came on but I imagine would be such a time and place tv show that it wouldn't age well today.

LITERALLY A BIRD
Sep 27, 2008

I knew you were trouble
when you flew in


this guy knows what's up.

hyperhazard
Dec 4, 2011

I am the one lascivious
With magic potion niveous

mind the walrus posted:

What I hate is that they did basically the same poo poo Josie and the Pussycats did only 4 years too late... but no one appreciated Josie and the Pussycats at the time either. Boy Bands were so inherently mockable that even the good parodies got lost in the shuffle.

Josie and the Pussycats is amazing, but the plot revolves around the evils of digital mastering, which is pretty funny in retrospect.

Naked Man Punch
Sep 13, 2008

They see me rollin';
they hatin'.

RC and Moon Pie posted:

The Super Mario Brothers Super Show Captain N and the Adventures of Super Mario 3 had an episode starring Milli Vanilli just before everything went down.

Sorry, Mario. The Princess has been overcome by POSITIVE ENERGY.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJhLudFTgXE

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Debunk This!
Apr 12, 2011


hyperhazard posted:

Josie and the Pussycats is amazing, but the plot revolves around the evils of digital mastering, which is pretty funny in retrospect.

Its funny how worried people were about this for a while. The spectre of auto-tune had so many musical purists convinced that talented singers were suddenly going to disappear now that you could get a computer to sing for you. I remember so much hand wringing from these people about how awful it all was and blah blah blah.

Josie was a pretty great movie though.

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