|
the case for lockdown is that it's easier to fix the problems caused by a lockdown than it is to fix the problems caused by getting a deadly disease if someone catches covid-19, and it goes hard and wrecks their lungs, there's not much that can be done for them besides cranking a ventilator to max settings and hoping they don't die anyway if a bunch of people lose their job and can't pay rent, there's a lot of stuff that can be done to mitigate the impact of that and prevent the worst outcomes. it doesn't look like we're going to actually do any of those things, but the proper response to that is to reexamine why the country is run by a loving death cult dedicated to shoveling bodies into an economic furnace, rather than throwing up our hands and betting that the virus is more merciful than the lenders and landlords
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2020 23:57
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 20, 2024 00:51 |
|
|
Main Paineframe posted:if a bunch of people lose their job and can't pay rent, there's a lot of stuff that can be done to mitigate the impact of that and prevent the worst outcomes. it doesn't look like we're going to actually do any of those things, but the proper response to that is to reexamine why the country is run by a loving death cult dedicated to shoveling bodies into an economic furnace, rather than throwing up our hands and betting that the virus is more merciful than the lenders and landlords "can be done" lol a small number of people with vast sums of money will do absolutely anything to avoid paying an iota of tax, and those people run our government at this point we're just arguing over which month to start shoveling bodies into mass graves to improve the eps for $sbux and $hd, because doing anything sane was never really on the table the hn folks are obviously nuts by any objective standard, but they encompass the entire overton window in america. how many millions must die for the S&P 500? Notorious b.s.d. fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Apr 20, 2020 |
|
#
?
Apr 20, 2020 01:14
|
|
|
its not unemployment and trauma from lockdowns vs deaths from covid its unemployment and trauma and deaths from lockdowns vs unemployment and trauma and deaths from covid and without lockdowns you’re going to see a lot more of all three
|
|
#
?
Apr 20, 2020 01:53
|
|
|
Notorious b.s.d. posted:"can be done" at some point the additional deaths and attendant economic disruption override the benefit of reopening earlier. it’s obviously true that letting half the country die is unprofitable. so is letting everyone live. other than that...someone at the heritage foundation has an excel sheet i expect
|
|
#
?
Apr 20, 2020 04:16
|
|
|
Nomnom Cookie posted:at some point the additional deaths and attendant economic disruption override the benefit of reopening earlier. it’s obviously true that letting half the country die is unprofitable. so is letting everyone live. other than that...someone at the heritage foundation has an excel sheet i expect the people at the top are already getting antsy. those "gently caress you and die i want a haircut" protests didn't just coalesce organically, they were coordinated by a group linked to betsy devos. they are quite literally marching people to their deaths to avoid giving them one cent
|
|
#
?
Apr 20, 2020 04:48
|
|
|
yeah I feel like those movements have that same tea party astroturf element to them
|
|
#
?
Apr 20, 2020 04:51
|
|
|
lancemantis posted:yeah I feel like those movements have that same tea party astroturf element to them they do, but unlike the tea party, this astroturf movement is literally 100% about sacrificing workers to moloch it has no other issue and the president, for whatever reason, is backing them. the reason is not poll data. the astroturfing hypothesis developed from the fact that even self-identified republicans don't back this poo poo in any significant number. last i saw, 11 percent of republicans were concerned about lockdown restrictions no, we have a new "tea party" that has almost no popular support, and the president is backing this poo poo publicly. we may find the president can create a popular movement from nothing. who knows
|
|
#
?
Apr 20, 2020 06:00
|
|
|
lancemantis posted:yeah I feel like those movements have that same tea party astroturf element to them remember terri schiavo? where a bunch of people showed up and marched for a potato? this particular style of astroturfing goes back a lot further than tea partiers
|
|
#
?
Apr 20, 2020 08:22
|
|
|
Notorious b.s.d. posted:no, we have a new "tea party" that has almost no popular support, and the president is backing this poo poo publicly. we may find the president can create a popular movement from nothing. who knows *monkey's paw closes a finger and grants you a wish*
|
|
#
?
Apr 20, 2020 09:13
|
|
|
quote:How is it white nationalism to want to secure a future for white children? This seems highly illogical to me.
|
|
#
?
Apr 20, 2020 17:23
|
|
|
Next thing you're going to be telling me that that the 14 words are white nationalism! So illogical!
|
|
#
?
Apr 20, 2020 18:22
|
|
|
It's highly illogical because it's putting the cart before the horse: you first need to secure the existence of our people, and then you can start working on a future for white children. Christ on a bike, the basics, guys, the basics 
|
|
#
?
Apr 20, 2020 20:09
|
|
|
bikeshedding the ethnostate
|
|
#
?
Apr 20, 2020 22:07
|
|
|
a national socialism if you will. or I guess socialist nationalism? I dunno.
|
|
#
?
Apr 20, 2020 23:48
|
|
|
mystes posted:Next thing you're going to be telling me that that the 14 words are white nationalism! So illogical! he did genuinely try to argue that the 14 words were just a totally innocent thing that people were making too big of a deal over. thankfully that is too much for even hn.
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 00:14
|
|
|
Neon Noodle posted:bikeshedding the ethnostate yak shaving but terrifyingly literal
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 04:16
|
|
|
power botton posted:a national socialism if you will. or I guess socialist nationalism? I dunno. people should just say “this is a new kind of government and it doesn’t have a name yet”
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 08:17
|
|
|
scandox 1 day ago | parent | favorite | on: HR tech companies laying people off: was it overdu... > people need to get from place to place, and it’s very hard to build and run an airline. Why is it hard? Seems like the dumbest possible business. I mean I think a restaurant would be harder. There's more subtle unknowns in food than there is in carrying people from A to B. Educate me because I don't get it.
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 14:33
|
|
|
fritz posted:scandox 1 day ago | parent | favorite | on: HR tech companies laying people off: was it overdu... hosed up that people this powerfully stupid are even allowed to operate a motor vehicle unsupervised *driving the wrong way down an interstate* "To be very open with you here I'll be the first to admit I have no idea what I am doing. I'm just being rational. It's very regrettable that people choose to get so emotional about such simple subjects such as this one, but it really doesn't seem to be as difficult as everybody makes it out to be, maybe I'm just not understanding though? I mean if you simply take a few moments to think about this calmly and rationally then activity is conceptually isomorphic to reversing a linked list, and in many ways it is much simpler, so I'm sure anybody who has completed even a sufficiently diligent self-directed course of study in computer science couldn't figure it out from first principles. Again, I am approaching as a humble learner with no emotional preconcep- *smashes through bridge guard rail, falling into a river and dies*"
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 15:07
|
|
|
Conversations with a six-year-old on functional programming My six-year-old son walked up to me yesterday. “What are you reading?” At the time, I was reading part of Janis Voigtländer’s habilitation thesis. Unsure where to even start, I decided to just answer straightforwardly: “I’m reading a very long story about free theorems.” He persisted. “What are free theorems?” Never one to shrink from a pedagogical challenge, I thought for a moment, then began: “Do you know what a function is?” He didn’t. “A function is like a machine where you put something in one end and something comes out the other end. For example, maybe you put a number in, and the number that is one bigger comes out. So if you put in three, four comes out, or if you put in six, seven comes out.” This clearly made sense to him, so I continued, “The type of a function machine tells you what kinds of things you put in and what kinds of things come out. So maybe you put a number in and get a number out. Or maybe you put in a list of numbers and get a number out.” He interrupted excitedly, “Or maybe you could put words in??” “Yes, exactly! Maybe you can put words in and get words out. Or maybe there is a function machine where you put other function machines in and get function machines out!” He gasped in astonishment at the idea of putting function machines into function machines. “So,” I concluded, “a free theorem is when you can say something that is always true about a function machine if you only know its type, but you don’t know anything about what it does on the inside.” This seemed a bit beyond him (and to be fair, free theorems are only interesting when polymorphism is involved which I definitely didn’t want to go into). But the whole conversation had given me a different idea. “Hey, I have a good idea for a game,” I said. “It’s called the function machine game. I will think of a function machine. You tell me things to put into the function machine, and I will tell you what comes out. Then you have to guess what the function machine does.” He immediately liked this game and it has been a huge hit; he wants to play it all the time. We played it while driving to a party yesterday, and we played it this morning while I was in the shower. So far, he has correctly guessed [Math images omitted] I tried  but that was a bit tough for him. I realized that in some cases he may understand intuitively what the function does but have trouble expressing it in words (this was also a problem with ), so we started using the obvious variant where once the guesser thinks they know what the function does, the players switch roles and the person who came up with function specifies some inputs in order to test whether the guesser is able to produce the correct outputs.  was also surprisingly difficult for him to guess (though he did get it right eventually). I think he was just stuck on the idea of the function doing something arithmetical to the input, and was having trouble coming up with some sort of arithmetic procedure which would result in  no matter what you put in! It simply hadn’t occurred to him that the machine might not care about the input. (Interestingly, many students in my functional programming class this semester were also confused by constant functions when we were learning about the lambda calculus; they really wanted to substitute the input somewhere and were upset/confused by the fact that the bound variable did not occur in the body at all!) After a few rounds of guessing my functions, he wanted to come up with his own functions for me to guess (as I knew he would). Sometimes his functions are great and sometimes they don’t make sense (usually because his idea of what the function does changes over time, which of course he, in all sincerity, denies), but it’s fun either way. And after he finally understood , he came up with his own function which was something like  inspired, I think, by his kindergarten class where they were learning about pairs of numbers that added up to . Definitely one of my better parenting days
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 15:26
|
|
|
Weird that green text stories are supported on HN now
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 15:31
|
|
|
zerm778 10 hours ago [-] Patreon became successful mostly because of the girls charging money for their nudes. Then they've started to ban these girls because they wanted a clean platform. Guess what, these girls have now moved to onlyfans and they won't come back. Patreon has lost the money bringing members thinking that failed musicians/youtubers would bring them the big bucks. reply
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 16:09
|
|
|
Best Bi Geek Squid posted:Conversations with a six-year-old on functional programming
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 16:48
|
|
|
Mr.Radar posted:zerm778 10 hours ago [-] extremely bitter about his masturbation payments how dare they make him subscribe to two services
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 16:51
|
|
|
Notorious b.s.d. posted:extremely bitter about his masturbation payments I think onlyfans folks generally charge higher than patreon folks. So maybe it's also "How dare people get paid in exchange for the goods and services they provide?"
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 16:54
|
|
|
problematic podcasts probably bring patreon more money than the weirdos paying for softcore nudes from e-girls. im not going to check the math though. edit: I checked the math and one of the most popular patreons is a sex mod for the sims? gross.
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 16:56
|
|
|
im reading a feature list and this was an extraordinary amount of work that he should be compensated for
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 16:59
|
|
|
oh man this is sick bro. how funny would it be if I downloaded it. that would be totally messed up. I shouldn't. but I mean just imagine if I did. WILD CARD! LOL. seriously. I won't though.
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 17:03
|
|
|
power botton posted:oh man this is sick bro. how funny would it be if I downloaded it. that would be totally messed up. I shouldn't. but I mean just imagine if I did. WILD CARD! LOL. seriously. I won't though. waiting for power bottom's patreon for tastefully shot art-quality sims pornography
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 17:05
|
|
|
hey power botton does your bike have tasteful sims erotica ha ha good one punchy
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 17:15
|
|
|
Mr.Radar posted:zerm778 10 hours ago [-] i've definitely heard this from sex workers before. every "you can advertise and people can pay you" site ends up building their user base in large part based on sex work and then eventually kicking it off so that they can go mainstream
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 17:40
|
|
|
iirc from some discussions with someone about it on Street Fight, onlyfans is tiny compared to patreon and outside of like long tail stuff, sex work was probably never a huge part of patreon?
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 17:42
|
|
|
rjmccall posted:i've definitely heard this from sex workers before. every "you can advertise and people can pay you" site ends up building their user base in large part based on sex work and then eventually kicking it off so that they can go mainstream i don't doubt that, but as lancemantis said above those people getting kicked off the platform is definitely not the reason patreon is in decline (hint: the real reason is they took vc money and can't pay it back without massively scaling up which would have been nearly impossible even before the pandemic). anyways, here's a very smart person's take on music: throw0101a 6 hours ago [-] > Don't understand how people are happy to listen to the same old stuff - it must get so dull. Only if you listen to dull music. Perhaps pick higher quality stuff? A good portion of my collection was originally written before 1750: Bach, Palestrina, Tallis, etc.† Some CDs I've had for >25 years and they are still as fresh as the first day I listened to them. And even a different take on the same composition can be illuminating: Glenn Gould vs Angela Hewitt, Tallis Scholars vs The Sixteen. There's a reason why certain works regularly appear in those "Top 100" lists where they go out and ask experts: the order may sometimes be different, but the items in the top ten are often the same. Edit: a quotation by Robert Bringhurst form The Elements of Typographic Style: With type as with philosophy, music and food, it is better to have a little of the best than to be swamped with the derivative, the careless, the routine. † I have more modern stuff too: Led Zeppelin, Vampire Weekend, Arcade Fire, Pärt, Górecki, etc. reply
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 18:41
|
|
|
I agree esp with certain works like hell hath no fury or my beautiful dark twisted fantasy.
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 18:43
|
|
|
bingo card app guy makes prediction: "covid19 will be bad" and then spends over 10,000 words saying he was right in bizarrely coached language https://www.kalzumeus.com/2020/04/21/japan-coronavirus/
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 20:22
|
|
|
Suspicious Dish posted:bingo card app guy makes prediction: "covid19 will be bad" and then spends over 10,000 words saying he was right in bizarrely coached language looks like it's because he was too cowardly to actually post the prediction publicly and risk the possibility of being wrong on the internet, but he didn't want to give up the option of being able to go "I told you so" if he turned out to be right so he posted a SHA hash, and only revealed a month later that this hash was his prediction that Japan was going to have a covid-19 epidemic. apparently "I told you so" carries a lot less impact when delivered that way
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 21:27
|
|
|
do you think they also had a hash tucked away somewhere for the opposite?
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 21:29
|
|
|
what kind of brain worms do you need to have to post random hash codes on twitter
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 21:30
|
|
|
Suspicious Dish posted:bingo card app guy makes prediction: "covid19 will be bad" and then spends over 10,000 words saying he was right in bizarrely coached language Is this the dude that just pays some foreign house wife peanuts for his bingo card content.
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 22:31
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 20, 2024 00:51 |
|
|
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand patio11. The insights are extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of bingo card theory most of the blogposts will go over a typical reader’s head. There’s also Patrick’s optimistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Ramit Sethi, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these posts, to realise that they’re not just funny- they say something deep about BUSINESS. As a consequence people who dislike patio11 truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn’t appreciate, for instance, the humour in Patrick’s post on salary negotiation which itself is a cryptic reference to Dale Carnegie. I’m smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as patio11’s genius wit unfolds itself on their computer screens. What fools.. how I pity them. 😂 And yes, by the way, i DO have a Kalzumeus tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It’s for the ladies’ eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they’re within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.
|
|
#
?
Apr 23, 2020 00:54
|
|