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Jonny 290 posted:it costs a quarter million dollars to open a restaurant in like loving arkansas. I hope that yall are right but i do not expect 90% of nonwhite owned restaurants to come back, which basically means all of the good ones.
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abigserve posted:it'll be interesting to see how many people actually do go back to eating out a lot. A lot of my mates here have realised how easy and cheap cooking is I'm so loving lazy I'll be eating out again as soon as the office re-opens
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akadajet posted:as soon as the office re-opens lol
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there's no way dirty computer touchers like us are going to see the inside of an office for a very long time if ever again
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abigserve posted:there's no way dirty computer touchers like us are going to see the inside of an office for a very long time if ever again i miss antagonizing my coworkers irl instead of over slack 
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me: "ok man, smell ya later" ron howard voice: "but he never did"
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rotor posted:me: "ok man, smell ya later"
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lmao everybody is now fully aware of how expensive and unnecessary office space in major metros is. No company is ever going to pay for floorspace again when they can just pocket the difference. galaxy brain: buy office space buy office space but make it really small and call it an open plan Make them pay for their own office space but with zoom and slack logos over the face Methanar fucked around with this message at 02:08 on Apr 20, 2020 |
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Apr 20, 2020 02:06
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mystes posted:Bad news about the roni symptoms
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mods namechange to "roni howard" thankls
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Plenty of people are going to be back in offices; the ‘POS can be a bit too much of a bubble sometimes
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lancemantis posted:Plenty of people are going to be back in offices; the ‘POS can be a bit too much of a bubble sometimes not computer people
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Yes computer people; for plenty of reasons
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thank you for ennumerating those plenty of reasons, very insightful
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why is it "roni" and not "rona" never understood that
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haveblue posted:why is it "roni" and not "rona" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeHm-tp_E0c
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lancemantis posted:Yes computer people; for plenty of reasons Why. Office space in major metro areas is anywhere between 60-100 dollars a sqft, if some executive sees a chance to move that to his bonus, he will. Making your serfs pay for their own space to sit in is a giant power move imo. You can even hold that 'privilege' over them like pressuring for afterhours work, because after all, why not. Why would you watch TV at 7pm when your work computer is right there and waiting for you. You might as well use your time productively (executive bonuses)
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Methanar posted:lmao everybody is now fully aware of how expensive and unnecessary office space in major metros is. No company is ever going to pay for floorspace again when they can just pocket the difference. naw, management will insist people still come in to enable organizational synergies and f2f high bandwidth sync-ups
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like I mean it's not like Facebook didn't know about videoconferencing until last month
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rotor posted:like I mean it's not like Facebook didn't know about videoconferencing until last month facebook isn't a good reference of company culture and policies
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Methanar posted:Why. Office space in major metro areas is anywhere between 60-100 dollars a sqft, if some executive sees a chance to move that to his bonus, he will. Making your serfs pay for their own space to sit in is a giant power move imo. one of the biggest invisible grifts to look out for is how they will close all the office space and not start paying people rent for the square footage their home offices occupy. it will amount to like a hundred billion dollars and the execs are going to pocket it all.
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Some people will be back at offices because their management demands it Some people will be back because they’re functioning extroverts and like it Some people have labs that they need to be in to do work Someone will have to do CJing Etc Like I’ll be back and plenty of others in my work space will because it’s not possible for us to do all our work from home; plenty of people have been doing training or classes or taking emergency leave or finding home-able work if they can
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and if any one of you filthy bastards pipes up with "lol thats dumb why would a corporation pay for my home office space when i occasionally strum a guitar or pet a cat in there, it's not dedicated space" i will invite you to return to licking your master's boots, as you are so obviously inclined to do
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quote:Some people will be back because they’re functioning extroverts and like it well theyre sure as poo poo not functioning now. the loudest people in the company are at like 10% productivity right now and the rest of us are like, business as usual except i cant go in to snipe that free work lunch.
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lancemantis posted:Some people will be back at offices because their management demands it pretty curious to know what IT job you have in TYOOL 2020 that can't be done remotely that isn't box shifting or takes place entirely in a DC? CJ doesn't count because that's actually dependent on office spaces existing in the first place. I had a frame relay lab that was remotely accessible ten years ago (serial console and adsl baby) fair dinkum
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we’re a brick and mortar software shop, god damnit.
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I’m definitely planning on more WFH in the future. My home buying options around here are a lot more attractive if I don’t have to deal with the commute every day.
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Jonny 290 posted:one of the biggest invisible grifts to look out for is how they will close all the office space and not start paying people rent for the square footage their home offices occupy. it will amount to like a hundred billion dollars and the execs are going to pocket it all. p sure you can take it off of your taxes somehow if you work from home a nonzero amount of time like some calc based on the square footage of your living room or kitchen table area or whatever
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syntaxrigger posted:lol man yall wild don’t apologize to idiots who can’t tell the difference between ‘my experience as a computer toucher makes me qualified to diagnose and treat this more effectively than actual doctors’ and ‘oh huh it turns out this disease kills you in all sorts of different unexpected ways and this is really complicated if you get it you should probably talk to someone who knows what they’re doing’
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Jonny 290 posted:nah. you can't just reopen ten thousand restaurants because you want to back to NoRmaL i mean- we COULD go back to normal. all of the problems we are and will face exist entirely as a fictional number in a computer. we could make them all go away once this is over by changing some of those numbers. unfortunately there’s a few people who REALLY don’t want those numbers to change though
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my union was about to go into arbitration for our contract becuase management wanted to significantly cut back on telework, and i'm *really* interested in seeing what happens coming out of all of this, especially with management making comments about how hard everyone is working
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imagine how much more prepared we’d be for a massive shift to wfh if we’d been spending the past decades rolling out municipal fiber across the country
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PIZZA.BAT posted:imagine how much more prepared we’d be for a massive shift to wfh if we’d been spending the past decades rolling out municipal fiber across the country it would have been really nice if we would have thrown a few billion at the telcos like 20 years ago to upgrade their infrastructure. hindsight's 20/20 tho i guess =/
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Jonny 290 posted:it would have been really nice if we would have thrown a few billion at the telcos like 20 years ago to upgrade their infrastructure. hindsight's 20/20 tho i guess =/ nice
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Jonny 290 posted:it would have been really nice if we would have thrown a few billion at the telcos like 20 years ago to upgrade their infrastructure. hindsight's 20/20 tho i guess =/ lol
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"The Chinese have better internet connections than we do" should be a major campaign talking point
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ShadowHawk posted:"The Chinese have better internet connections than we do" should be a major campaign talking point i have fiber to the home and i live in china. i pay $30/month and it includes tv service and 3 sim cards with 50 gigabytes of data a month each fart simpson fucked around with this message at 08:09 on Apr 20, 2020 |
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ShadowHawk posted:"The Chinese have better internet connections than we do" should be a major campaign talking point seems pretty high risk as, despite being true in the way it is intended, the obvious retort is that an internet which can't load youtube isn't better
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