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The Meat Dimension posted:My aunt purchased an Elantra because of the pandemic. She was dead set on the Accent hatch because she rented one a couple years ago and loved it, but was surprised that it was discontinued. Elantra or Elantra GT?
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The Meat Dimension posted:My aunt purchased an Elantra because of the pandemic. She was dead set on the Accent hatch because she rented one a couple years ago and loved it, but was surprised that it was discontinued. Kia still makes the Rio hatch
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Apr 20, 2020 20:21
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Oh also the new Elantra came out  
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Apr 20, 2020 20:52
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JK Fresco posted:Oh also the new Elantra came out "This looks cool, but would be way better if they changed the headlights/grille juuust a bit" - me for every new car announced in the past 4 months.
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Apr 20, 2020 21:05
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Cracks me up comparing the modern Elantra to it from the early 90's.
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Apr 20, 2020 22:06
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Colostomy Bag posted:Cracks me up comparing the modern Elantra to it from the early 90's. Even to 2010  Then again, in Canada at least, 2010s started around $10k and 2020s are $17k. I could easily see the 2021 being $20k. It seems everybody is trying to move up-market with everything, and the only things left under $15k are the Spark, Mirage, and Micra.
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Apr 20, 2020 22:15
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Charles posted:Elantra or Elantra GT? JK Fresco posted:Kia still makes the Rio hatch Sedan Elantra. She went to the nearest Hyundai/Kia dealer and closed that day. It’s red and seems like a nice commuter for somebody who is retiring this year.
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Apr 20, 2020 22:23
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Powershift posted:Even to 2010 $17k is like half the average new car transaction price in America though. Anywhere below that and people are probably much more likely to buy used than to get the sort of new cars you cab get for less than $15k.
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Apr 20, 2020 22:54
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JK Fresco posted:Oh also the new Elantra came out For a second I thought it looked decent at this angle because I assumed all those lines on the side were just a reflection of some weird polygon out of frame.
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Apr 21, 2020 00:16
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That front looks like a concept car, and not in a good way.
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Apr 21, 2020 01:27
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Some more info about car deals if anyone still has money to buyquote:General Motors Co. and Ford Motor Co.’s finance arms likely face multibillion-dollar losses linked to the dramatic drop in used-vehicle prices, JPMorgan Chase & Co. analysts said. Also Hertz and the other rental firms have been massively downsizing their businesses and flooding the market with used rentals over the past few weeks. Hertz just laid off 10k of its 35k employees. Pryor on Fire fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Apr 21, 2020 |
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Apr 21, 2020 02:50
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I just got what I thought was a good deal on a 2017 G80 RWD, single owner off lease. I was already in the market before covid hit the US, and I want my dying VW out of the driveway. Could I have waited longer? Probably, but who cares when it’s already taken a 45% depreciation hit. They’re a pretty good deal right now for what you get.
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Apr 21, 2020 11:36
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https://www.news.com.au/technology/...1cb4c4bf409972d Apologies about the Murdoch press link. Ford Focus RS is to be no more
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Apr 21, 2020 11:51
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Powershift posted:Then again, in Canada at least, 2010s started around $10k and 2020s are $17k. I could easily see the 2021 being $20k. Well it's a lot easier to swallow the pill of paying more for a car when the banks/dealerships "conveniently" offer you a 9-year term. "It'll keep my monthly payment lower!!"
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Apr 21, 2020 13:43
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The Midniter posted:Well it's a lot easier to swallow the pill of paying more for a car when the banks/dealerships "conveniently" offer you a 9-year term. "It'll keep my monthly payment lower!!" And the only price advertised is the bi-weekly or weekly payment payment.
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Apr 21, 2020 13:55
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Powershift posted:And the only price advertised is the bi-weekly or weekly payment payment. That's still not too common in the US. You hear weekly occasionally but it's more for used cars, and it's rare enough that it kind of jumps out at you.
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Apr 21, 2020 14:04
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Powershift posted:Even to 2010 I hear this is in part due to ever increasing emissions and safety requirements. With so much required equipment, most of the price of a car is labor, and making a small car isn't really that much easier thsn making a big one.
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Apr 21, 2020 16:07
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JK Fresco posted:I hear this is in part due to ever increasing emissions and safety requirements. It's a popular talking point in certain circles, but it doesn't really track. Cars are increasing in cost at about half the rate of inflation since 1953. If you have an issue with new car prices, don't parrot stuff about emissions and safety equipment increasing prices, instead ask why wages have been stagnant for the past few decades.
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Apr 21, 2020 16:22
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JK Fresco posted:Ford keeps on bringing over cars developed for third world countries and then acts surprised when they're poo poo I thought they sold Jaguar
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DonkeyHotay posted:I thought they sold Jaguar I said developed for not developed by
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Apr 21, 2020 17:58
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bull3964 posted:It's a popular talking point in certain circles, but it doesn't really track. Yep, pretty much. Stagflation has been a bitch. Hence 84 month loans.
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Apr 21, 2020 18:12
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JK Fresco posted:Oh also the new Elantra came out what's the screen to the left of the wheel for?
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Apr 21, 2020 18:19
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Potential Cash for Clunkers Revival Could Mean Big Car Deals Are Coming I hope not literally in the next month or so.
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Apr 21, 2020 18:28
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Nonsense posted:Potential Cash for Clunkers Revival Could Mean Big Car Deals Are Coming Destroying the Used Car Market to Own the Libs Jesus loving Christ.
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Apr 21, 2020 18:32
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Nonsense posted:Potential Cash for Clunkers Revival Could Mean Big Car Deals Are Coming gently caress the auto industry, they can suffer just like everyone else. I couldn't care less if any of them fall to the wayside, and I highly doubt that anyone else will care this time either.
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Apr 21, 2020 18:39
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Man the zero payments for 6 months, 0% apr for 72 months and the 6 year warranty do make a GTI compelling except for the fact I got nowhere to drive lmao
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Apr 21, 2020 18:42
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Applebees Appetizer posted:gently caress the auto industry, they can suffer just like everyone else. I couldn't care less if any of them fall to the wayside, and I highly doubt that anyone else will care this time either. it would be bad for me personally and also bad for my state and part of my state, so i care but we shouldn't do c4c 2
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Apr 21, 2020 18:45
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Fine sure cash for clunkers but like how many new cars do they think they are going to sell? Unemployment is the highest ever recorded and the oil industry is collapsing. Nobody is working and even if covid-19 just up and disappeared tomorrow the effects are already permanent, changes to commuting, rentals, vacations and travel. How many F-150s can possibly be sold?
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Apr 21, 2020 18:47
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Nonsense posted:Potential Cash for Clunkers Revival Could Mean Big Car Deals Are Coming  Hopefully a 2009 reconstruction title Volvo wagon is worth at least, say, $10k. That's fair right?
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Apr 21, 2020 19:31
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:it would be bad for me personally and also bad for my state and part of my state, so i care What I mean is they don't deserve another c4c bailout and that most would probably agree. For the regular people it will effect yes I feel bad for them and they don't deserve it, for the executives and shareholders not so much KakerMix posted:Fine sure cash for clunkers but like how many new cars do they think they are going to sell? Unemployment is the highest ever recorded and the oil industry is collapsing. Nobody is working and even if covid-19 just up and disappeared tomorrow the effects are already permanent, changes to commuting, rentals, vacations and travel. And this, all it will do is gently caress the used car market for people that need cheap cars. Applebees Appetizer fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Apr 21, 2020 |
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Apr 21, 2020 19:35
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Applebees Appetizer posted:What I mean is they don't deserve another c4c bailout and that most would probably agree. They’re already talking about bailing out oil and gas when a fuckton of us haven’t even gotten our stimulus pittance yet.
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Apr 21, 2020 19:36
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LeeMajors posted:They’re already talking about bailing out oil and gas when a fuckton of us haven’t even gotten our stimulus pittance yet. And the rich avoid catastrophe and keep getting richer! 
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Apr 21, 2020 19:39
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Like Trump would ever wanna do something Obama did
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Apr 21, 2020 20:17
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Charles posted:Like Trump would ever wanna do something Obama did He'll just re name it and tweak it a bit, then say it was his great idea and how awesome he is
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Apr 21, 2020 20:23
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His program will require the feds to buy only from corporate intermediaries, who will immediately start lowballing desperate people and emptying junkyards
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Apr 21, 2020 20:30
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KakerMix posted:Fine sure cash for clunkers but like how many new cars do they think they are going to sell? Unemployment is the highest ever recorded and the oil industry is collapsing. Nobody is working and even if covid-19 just up and disappeared tomorrow the effects are already permanent, changes to commuting, rentals, vacations and travel. At my work just today after WTI hit the negatives our shop that does mostly oilfield manufacturing laid off almost 40 out of 220 people. I felt like I was taking ole yeller behind the shed when I was closing out my old right-hand man's last labor ticket  Most people don't know, but oil took a poo poo in late 2014 and our shop had 8 rounds of layoffs. After five years we were only just getting into the good times again, and now we're back to 40 hour weeks (usually it's 55's with OT) and layoffs after only 5 months of being able to pay off debt. Usually there are at least a couple years between a boom and a bust, but this was a long slow climb and just a precipitous drop. I've never seen it go so fast.I really feel for those guys because at least in 14-19 you could still get manufacturing jobs in other sectors, but now everyone is equally screwed.
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:https://www.news.com.au/technology/...1cb4c4bf409972d Don't worry I'm sure they'll do a couple more 'performance' versions of the Ranger and Everest to make up for it.
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Apr 21, 2020 20:52
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LeeMajors posted:Destroying the Used Car Market to Own the Libs Uhh do you remember who did cash for clunkers
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Apr 21, 2020 21:02
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JK Fresco posted:Uhh do you remember who did cash for clunkers I do. I’m talking about who is presently trying to do C4C 2.0 expressly to prop up the new car market.
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All those newly unemployed oil workers should learn how to 
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