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Cactus
Jun 24, 2006

pahuyuth posted:

I love that scene! H&CF is one of my favorite shows ever and I just started a rewatch a couple of days ago. I didn't care for Donna too much at first but she became one of my favorites. Toby Huss as Bos is great but the real stars as the seasons progress are Joe's and Cameron's hair.

I've never seen more than the first couple of episodes of Mad Men so I can't compare it to that, but For All Mankind reminds me of H&CF in terms of the strong female characters and fictionalized history.

Just looked this one up having not heard of it before, and it's gone straight onto the quarantine binge-list. Thanks!

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Wafflecopper
Nov 27, 2004

I am a mouth, and I must scream

Got caught up with Strike Back last week just before the series finale which just aired. Uh... what the hell was that? First half of the ep was fine, classic Strike Back gun fights and explosions etc but after the helicopter fight it got kinda dumb. So they escape to the shore and apparently there's a massive patrol of soldiers that just happened to be going through this random spot in the woods? Okay whatever it's Strike Back, more gunfighting is cool, looks like they're getting overwhelmed, fade to black. Next scene they're fine, they just killed them all I guess. They get Gracie patched up and discover the money is counterfeit and we get the scene of the real money being loaded up and taken away. Next scene Coltrane is in a house with Arianna, who escaped in the tunnel fight earlier. What? Did I miss something? Apparently they just tracked her down off-camera somehow and strolled in? I thought she and the money both got away and basically the Russian op was a success? Coltrane executes her, good guys win, show over. The whole back half felt really rushed and nonsensical, somebody tell me how I'm bad at watching TV and explain how Strike Back of all shows has me so confused.

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler

Wafflecopper posted:

Got caught up with Strike Back last week just before the series finale which just aired. Uh... what the hell was that? First half of the ep was fine, classic Strike Back gun fights and explosions etc but after the helicopter fight it got kinda dumb. So they escape to the shore and apparently there's a massive patrol of soldiers that just happened to be going through this random spot in the woods? Okay whatever it's Strike Back, more gunfighting is cool, looks like they're getting overwhelmed, fade to black. Next scene they're fine, they just killed them all I guess. They get Gracie patched up and discover the money is counterfeit and we get the scene of the real money being loaded up and taken away. Next scene Coltrane is in a house with Arianna, who escaped in the tunnel fight earlier. What? Did I miss something? Apparently they just tracked her down off-camera somehow and strolled in? I thought she and the money both got away and basically the Russian op was a success? Coltrane executes her, good guys win, show over. The whole back half felt really rushed and nonsensical, somebody tell me how I'm bad at watching TV and explain how Strike Back of all shows has me so confused.

It's not you, apart from the John Wick like casino shootout with Novin it was quite sloppy and rushed. The helicopter chase looked nice initially but apparently it's armed with guided missiles that have a range of 25 meters and they still miss most of the time and require you to make three low passes over a boat with people shooting you to lock on. And no Scott/Stonebridge cameo ! Ivana Milicevic was wasted too, obviously she is not the killing machine from Banshee but on The 100 she was intimidating as hell just sitting in a chair.

Martin
Jan 17, 2004

All I know in life is how to pour whiskey and run my mouth off
Dinosaur Gum

CeeJee posted:

It's not you, apart from the John Wick like casino shootout with Novin it was quite sloppy and rushed. The helicopter chase looked nice initially but apparently it's armed with guided missiles that have a range of 25 meters and they still miss most of the time and require you to make three low passes over a boat with people shooting you to lock on. And no Scott/Stonebridge cameo ! Ivana Milicevic was wasted too, obviously she is not the killing machine from Banshee but on The 100 she was intimidating as hell just sitting in a chair.

Watched it last night as well and I was super disappointed. Liked the series, even after the mini reboot. Such a shame. It felt really rushed and just ... bad.

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)
Strike Back was never good imo. It's not at all on par with other action recommendations itt

Meatgrinder
Jul 11, 2003

Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est

pahuyuth posted:

I've never seen more than the first couple of episodes of Mad Men so I can't compare it to that, but For All Mankind reminds me of H&CF in terms of the strong female characters and fictionalized history.

Giving this a go too. It's got some good things going for it, I'm interested to see how it'll pan out.

Not a series but I have started watching all of the James Bond films in order, having done the same with other franchises, and holy poo poo. Holy. poo poo. The sheer amount of sexual assault and outright rape depicted in the first films, with a straight boys-will-be-boys attitude, boggles the mind. I am at Thunderball and I must have seen these films before but I seriously do not remember the sexism (and racism, let's not forget about that) being this blatant, Jesus.

Torquemada
Oct 21, 2010

Drei Gläser
If you haven’t yet read the James Bond book thread, it’s one of the best threads ever. The OP includes lots of details regarding the films, the actors, the foods, drinks, places and fashions of the times, a really good read. There’s also a lot of discussion on the issue of racism and sexism, as you’d imagine: what’s weird (and revealing) is that the ‘Bond Girls’ in the books are often really competent foils for Bond, rather than some hottie called Heavenly Polemuncher or something. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3861448&perpage=40

RestingB1tchFace
Jul 4, 2016

Opinions are like a$$holes....everyone has one....but mines the best!!!

Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:

We caught up on Black Monday, and tonight Showtime airs the last episode that seems to have been finished before everything shut down (episode 6 out of a planned 10 for Season 2). I have no idea how far along they were with the rest. But drat, it was so much more fun, funnier, and better than I ever would have guessed.

So we switched gears and started binging Happy Endings on Hulu, since it's from the same writer/showrunner David Caspe, with very similar (but toned-down) humor. Also, Caspe's wife Casey Wilson is such a drat delight on both shows. I always enjoyed Happy Endings when I'd catch an episode back in the day, but this is the first time my wife has ever seen it. She doesn't like it as much as Black Monday, and it's a much less ambitious show, but it's silly, simple, entertaining comfort food that makes us laugh, so it's perfect for right now.

It's wild seeing the Russo Brothers are executive producers and directed several episodes. I knew they directed a lot of Community and Arrested Development, but didn't know they had their hands on Happy Endings too. They directed my top three favorite MCU movies, so I'm thrilled they started in good sitcoms and made it as big as anyone can make it in Hollywood.

I'm still making my way through G.I. Joe: Renegades on my own, and still digging it more than I ever would have expected, too.

I need to start season two of Black Monday. And Happy Endings was such a great show. Ended far too early.

Saw some folks mentioning Ash Vs. Evil Dead. Just started watching it a few days ago and I'm loving it.

tetrapyloctomy
Feb 18, 2003

Okay -- you talk WAY too fast.
Nap Ghost

RestingB1tchFace posted:

Saw some folks mentioning Ash Vs. Evil Dead. Just started watching it a few days ago and I'm loving it.
I loved this show so very much. Despite its faults, it's just so damned fun, and there are some genuinely creepy moments and effects. Plus since every episode is so short, each one rapidly ramps up to insanity.

Meatgrinder
Jul 11, 2003

Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est

Torquemada posted:

If you haven’t yet read the James Bond book thread, it’s one of the best threads ever. The OP includes lots of details regarding the films, the actors, the foods, drinks, places and fashions of the times, a really good read. There’s also a lot of discussion on the issue of racism and sexism, as you’d imagine: what’s weird (and revealing) is that the ‘Bond Girls’ in the books are often really competent foils for Bond, rather than some hottie called Heavenly Polemuncher or something. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3861448&perpage=40

That looks interesting, thanks. The films were released like, 2 years apart, so it'll be great to watch them crawl through the decades at least.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
*Staring at glass case emblazoned with "in case of barrel bottom watch Bosch"*

Some lovely trailer really rubbed me the wrong way. "That's not a cop, that's a killer" lmao my man what fictional precinct do you work for.

Torquemada
Oct 21, 2010

Drei Gläser
Eh, Bosch is fine. Looks glossy enough, everyone can act to a greater or lesser degree, bit of jazz, few gunfights, what’s not to like? My wife’s watching Once Upon A Time and it looks like poo poo made on someone’s phone.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
I was getting by on British crime procedurals but I knew I was a loving junkie when I left London. The locations kept getting quainter as the dialects got more incomprehensible.

Need a fix.

Gaunab
Feb 13, 2012
LUFTHANSA YOU FUCKING DICKWEASEL
I'm watching The Shield now just to kill time. There's an awful lot of plots involving people being raped which I don't like. Like SVU levels of rape plots. Doesn't compare to The Wire other than being a show with cops.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
The shield is a show where it’s premise and it’s genre clash a lot.

It’s an action show whose whole premise is against action cliches

Torquemada
Oct 21, 2010

Drei Gläser
Yeah, it’s first season is now 18 years old, it was ridiculously common to use rape as a quick dramatic device back then. In its defence, it does also depict a main male character being orally raped, and the fallout and trauma is addressed multiple times and not just swept under the carpet, which is kind of progressive, maybe? (I realise ‘more rape’ is probably not the answer).

That aside, The Shield is unparalleled in its payoff: every season builds on the one before, and you never get the feeling they’re making it up as they go along. Everyone ends up getting theirs, in one way or another.

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)

Gaunab posted:

I'm watching The Shield now just to kill time. There's an awful lot of plots involving people being raped which I don't like. Like SVU levels of rape plots. Doesn't compare to The Wire other than being a show with cops.

People get raped a lot

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Zzulu posted:

People get raped a lot

Speaking of which, been watching Outlander which has been great.

Disharmony
Dec 29, 2000

Like a hundred crippled horses lying crumpled on the ground

Begging for a rifle to come and put them down
Fleabag.

Why did I only watch this now?

Meatgrinder
Jul 11, 2003

Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est

Disharmony posted:

Fleabag.

Why did I only watch this now?

Did you watch both seasons? Just saying there are 2 because would not want you to miss out.

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen

Laterite posted:

I too thought Fleabag was...fine. Funny, and worth watching, but not some amazing achievement. Another case where everyone other than the lead character is more interesting and empathetic. Even when you find out why Fleabag keeps running the store the way she does, it just didn't quite land for me. I found the sister's story much more compelling and Olivia Coleman knocks her role out of the park. Brett Gelman is fantastic at playing a despicable prick.

Fleabag started getting weird near the end of the second season when her boyfriend or whatever started calling her for breaking the fourth wall. Either have her do it or don't.

Thwomp
Apr 10, 2003

BA-DUHHH

Grimey Drawer

BigBallChunkyTime posted:

Fleabag started getting weird near the end of the second season when her boyfriend or whatever started calling her for breaking the fourth wall. Either have her do it or don't.

That was the best part! It also is integral in portraying how much of a match they are for each other. The closer they get to each other, the more he notices her turning to the camera.

That's just me though.

Disharmony
Dec 29, 2000

Like a hundred crippled horses lying crumpled on the ground

Begging for a rifle to come and put them down

Meatgrinder posted:

Did you watch both seasons? Just saying there are 2 because would not want you to miss out.

Yeah, finished it 6 hours straight. I had no idea what it was about coming in but kept seeing it on Amazon for years and I got time to kill because of the quarantine.

Andrew Scott was fantastic on this one and was a departure from his usual roles which tend to be either evil, hammy, over the top or evil hammy and over the top.

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!



Disharmony posted:

Yeah, finished it 6 hours straight. I had no idea what it was about coming in but kept seeing it on Amazon for years and I got time to kill because of the quarantine.

Andrew Scott was fantastic on this one and was a departure from his usual roles which tend to be either evil, hammy, over the top or evil hammy and over the top.

He’s still morally grey in that one. Check him out in the second episode of the latest Black Mirror series too.

Antifa Poltergeist
Jun 3, 2004

"We're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you"



If you're looking for dark gritty British police procedurals , never watch a touch of cloth.

In other news, everyone should watch a touch of cloth

Dicty Bojangles
Apr 14, 2001

Antifa Poltergeist posted:

If you're looking for dark gritty British police procedurals , never watch a touch of cloth.

In other news, everyone should watch a touch of cloth

Agreed... if you're looking for a snide Police Squad!-esque satire of Brit police procedurals, be sure to watch A Touch of Cloth.

Dicty Bojangles
Apr 14, 2001

Mrs. Bojangles and I finished binging through Daybreak yesterday and enjoyed it every step of the way.

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen

Thwomp posted:

That was the best part! It also is integral in portraying how much of a match they are for each other. The closer they get to each other, the more he notices her turning to the camera.

That's just me though.

My point is that other characters shouldn't notice or react to a character turning to the camera if that's a major storytelling device in the show. Either it means there's a camera nobody else notices or she has a sever break from reality. Either way it puts a damper on the show for me.

Just my opinion.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.

Dicty Bojangles posted:

Mrs. Bojangles and I finished binging through Daybreak yesterday and enjoyed it every step of the way.

Are you talking about Taye Diggs' Groundhog Day or the Netflix zombie thing that I wrote off ten minutes in?

Dicty Bojangles
Apr 14, 2001

Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

Are you talking about Taye Diggs' Groundhog Day or the Netflix zombie thing that I wrote off ten minutes in?

Netflix zombie. She and I both enjoyed it quite a lot, but to each their own.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
I'll give it another shot

Antifa Poltergeist
Jun 3, 2004

"We're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you"



BigBallChunkyTime posted:

My point is that other characters shouldn't notice or react to a character turning to the camera if that's a major storytelling device in the show. Either it means there's a camera nobody else notices or she has a sever break from reality. Either way it puts a damper on the show for me.

Just my opinion.

Yes, I think "severe break from reality" was what they we're aiming for.for both characters actually, but in different ways they are breaking from their own realities.fleabag gets up his own rear end sometimes because it thinks it's much clever than it actually is, but that part was well done imo.

PizzaProwler
Nov 4, 2009

Or you can see me at The Riviera. Tuesday nights.
Pillowfights with Dominican mothers.
Speaking of the Taye Diggs 'Day Break', does anyone know if any streaming service has it? I watched a few episodes a long time ago, and I'd love to run all the way through it. It was pretty great from what I remember.

mcbexx
Jul 4, 2004

British dentistry is
not on trial here!



Halfway through Tim Minchin's "Upright" and loving it so far.
Australia feels so otherworldly. Both Minchin and Milly Alcock are amazing together, as is the soundtrack.

Sandstorm just started blasting out of loving nowhere, lol

And 5 minutes later right in the feels again. Whoof.

Edit: Finished it. It's so, sooo good.

mcbexx fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Apr 23, 2020

SimonChris
Apr 24, 2008

The Baron's daughter is missing, and you are the man to find her. No problem. With your inexhaustible arsenal of hard-boiled similes, there is nothing you can't handle.
Grimey Drawer

Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

I'll give it another shot

Give it until the third episode. It's an ensemble show and the obnoxious dude from the first two episodes isn't actually the main character.

From the third episode on, the show goes totally apeshit.

SimonChris fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Apr 23, 2020

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

RestingB1tchFace posted:

I need to start season two of Black Monday. And Happy Endings was such a great show. Ended far too early.

I don't think anyone else here is into Black Monday aside from us, but they just posted on Facebook that Season 2 will return on June 28th, hopefully for all four of the remaining Season 2 episodes.

My cable company just ended the free month of Showtime they were offering everyone, so I figure I'll resubscribe in July when I can binge the rest of Black Monday and hopefully all of Penny Dreadful: City of Angels.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:

I don't think anyone else here is into Black Monday aside from us, but they just posted on Facebook that Season 2 will return on June 28th, hopefully for all four of the remaining Season 2 episodes.

Thank god haha. I was genuinely worried about how the limited season would affect the show's prospects.

Ishamael
Feb 18, 2004

You don't have to love me, but you will respect me.

BigBallChunkyTime posted:

My point is that other characters shouldn't notice or react to a character turning to the camera if that's a major storytelling device in the show. Either it means there's a camera nobody else notices or she has a sever break from reality. Either way it puts a damper on the show for me.

Just my opinion.

Disagree, that was the best moment in the entire series.

nonathlon
Jul 9, 2004
And yet, somehow, now it's my fault ...

Antifa Poltergeist posted:

Yes, I think "severe break from reality" was what they we're aiming for.for both characters actually, but in different ways they are breaking from their own realities.fleabag gets up his own rear end sometimes because it thinks it's much clever than it actually is, but that part was well done imo.

That's was my problem with Fleabag, it thinks it's much more clever thank it is. And it trys to heavily milk sympathy for a posh rich girl and, for me, just failed to sell it. Granted, they're were some suite funny moments in it.

Currently watching Tales from the Loop, which his the spot. A comfortable slightly sweet, slightly bitter Twilight Zone.

Re British crime procedurals, I had no idea how many there were or how formulaic they were until I visited an elderly relative who watched them all. Set in some picturesque regional location, lead is seasoned and slightly grumpy but clashes with their superiors, has a younger assistant who makes mistakes and gets too close to the case, which always had something to do with a dark secret from years ago.

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Gravy Jones
Sep 13, 2003

I am not on your side

nonathlon posted:

Re British crime procedurals, I had no idea how many there were or how formulaic they were until I visited an elderly relative who watched them all. Set in some picturesque regional location, lead is seasoned and slightly grumpy but clashes with their superiors, has a younger assistant who makes mistakes and gets too close to the case, which always had something to do with a dark secret from years ago.

There are loads of shows like this and they are pretty much a genre to themselves beyond crime procedurals in general. It's not really something that appeals to me (except Hamish McBeth) but yeah they're very popular in both the UK and US, there are a lot of them (both TV and fiction) and they're very formulaic. They're the UK's equivilent of stuff like Murder She Wrote and Matlock.

There is also a pretty strong tradition of stuff that doesn't follow this template and is usually a lot darker, things like Cracker, Prime Suspect and Luther, which I think tend to be more popular in this thread and what people are often talking about when they're praising Brit crime shows

We've also had our fair share of regular crime procedurals that are similar in format to your Law and Order and type shows, but they don't seem to be as popular here.

e: When I say "your" here I was assuming you were in the US. Adjust if not appropriate.

Gravy Jones fucked around with this message at 10:43 on Apr 24, 2020

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