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I love Akechi so much. November/December spoilers He strikes me as the main character of another game where the player only chose evil options the entire time. He's so hilariously over the top. I've never actually beaten Shido's palace before in the original so I'm on new territory for me but the battle against him had some stellar dialog and delivery from him. He is kind of one dimensional but really entertaining.
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The Q games seem to pick out the teams when they’re at their largest, so usually right before the bigger climactic events of their plots. I assume that a theoretical Q3 will give us the Thieves at a later point to let Kasumi in.
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Apr 21, 2020 15:03
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If kasumi knows you're a phantom thief, and everyone thinks they murdered okumura, you'd think she'd be just a little bit inquisitive into what actually happened
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Apr 21, 2020 15:39
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Gaius Marius posted:If kasumi knows you're a phantom thief, and everyone thinks they murdered okumura, you'd think she'd be just a little bit inquisitive into what actually happened She obviously trusts her Sempai and figures he has enough to deal with right now with such gross false accusations.
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Apr 21, 2020 17:00
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Lord_Magmar posted:She obviously trusts her Sempai and figures he has enough to deal with right now with such gross false accusations. I mean she's not exactly sane at that point, and you could argue that as one of the only people that treats her as Kasumi she's latched onto him in a weird codependent thing.
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Apr 21, 2020 17:05
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Justice rank 8. Simply, Justice rank 8. (Massive casino end spoilers) Akechi giving in to his murderboner and dropping most pretenses was awesome. There was a strong I know you know vibe there, no way he didn't realize the group had him dead to rights but both sides gotta ride that tiger now. Omobono fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Apr 21, 2020 |
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Apr 21, 2020 17:22
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:Those numbers don't count the fact that all attacks that hit weaknesses or Technical attacks and crits do TRIPLE damage I imagine the difference is more distinct when you have the enemy debuffed and the party buffed. When not fully debuffed/buffed even on Hard your party members get one-shot by attacks like that.
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Geostomp posted:The Q games seem to pick out the teams when they’re at their largest, so usually right before the bigger climactic events of their plots. I assume that a theoretical Q3 will give us the Thieves at a later point to let Kasumi in. If you're thinking of picking them up, maybe skip Q1. The writing is very bad and the dungeons are not great. Like "how have I gone 90 minutes without a save point on a handheld console" not great. They're both bottle stories so it's not like you miss anything. That said, you can make door-kun get married to koromaru in it, so if that's your fetish go nuts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJB9gVJnQZY Q2, however, is a gigantic step forward and is a consistently fun and well written game that I recommend to anyone who's played the Hashino persona games.
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Ytlaya posted:I imagine the difference is more distinct when you have the enemy debuffed and the party buffed. When not fully debuffed/buffed even on Hard your party members get one-shot by attacks like that. Got my whole party wiped minutes into fighting the fourth palace boss the other day. This was before it even got "serious." Hard mode has a habit of lulling me into a sense of security and then poking me in the eye. Also, don't forget to let Ryuji sit that fight out. Don't be like me.
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So this is probably a dumb question but is there any way on NG+ to get party members' third tier personas or at least the associated abilities early? It felt really dumb in my first playthrough that they get them SO LATE that they functionally only get to use them against the final final boss, and that's it.
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Ytlaya posted:I imagine the difference is more distinct when you have the enemy debuffed and the party buffed. When not fully debuffed/buffed even on Hard your party members get one-shot by attacks like that. Oh no, I mean this counts for damage the player deals as well. So basically it's impossible to lose a regular encounter because you get an ambush off and you oneshot all enemies with either a weakness spell or a sleep+lunge combo. Gaius Marius posted:If kasumi knows you're a phantom thief, and everyone thinks they murdered okumura, you'd think she'd be just a little bit inquisitive into what actually happened Yeaaaah, if nothing else I think this was a wasted opportunity. I continually said "hey is she uh, gonna ask me about this" and it's hard to believe she never did Levantine posted:I love Akechi so much. You will LOVE the new semester RazzleDazzleHour fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Apr 21, 2020 |
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Apr 21, 2020 19:46
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Sydin posted:So this is probably a dumb question but is there any way on NG+ to get party members' third tier personas or at least the associated abilities early? It felt really dumb in my first playthrough that they get them SO LATE that they functionally only get to use them against the final final boss, and that's it. I don't think so.
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Apr 21, 2020 22:28
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So according to stuff I've read, the skills they learn get added to the confessional in a NG+. That might be bullshit though, I've seen them in the confessional in the current playthrough at least. Makes the jazz club stuff you can get in the very late game a bit more useful if true as well.
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Apr 21, 2020 22:34
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Hmm, I'll check once the church is available.
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Apr 21, 2020 22:45
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I always assumed the confessional just let you pick out a single past skill to pull back, but it actually lets you completely reconfigure their skill list from all the abilities they've had, whether from level-ups, persona evolutions, or jazz club visits.
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Instant Grat posted:I always assumed the confessional just let you pick out a single past skill to pull back, but it actually lets you completely reconfigure their skill list from all the abilities they've had, whether from level-ups, persona evolutions, or jazz club visits. The hot spring trips in Golden worked the same way, so I assumed this did too, but it's nice to get confirmation.
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Apr 21, 2020 23:30
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I like these Strength events where you take Caroline/Justine out. It follows in the footsteps of the Marie events from P4G where you just gently caress with her constantly and say goofy things.
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Ytlaya posted:I like these Strength events where you take Caroline/Justine out. It follows in the footsteps of the Marie events from P4G where you just gently caress with her constantly and say goofy things. They're a delicacy.
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Apr 22, 2020 05:21
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Didn't see it mentioned in the last few pages, but Sony recently sent me a code for three sick dynamic themes and a bunch of avatars after clearing Futaba's palace so check your email The title is pretty great once you run it through a binary converter too
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Apr 22, 2020 06:17
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I’ve been playing this dumb game for 140 hours and completely forgot you can turn personas into mega gear until right after I sent the calling card for the last boss... so much wasted time! 
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A talking coyote posted:I’ve been playing this dumb game for 140 hours and completely forgot you can turn personas into mega gear until right after I sent the calling card for the last boss... so much wasted time! The electric chair isn't limited once per day anymore either. (Though unless you're looking for a specific level of skill you generally want to do it during alerts) I just finished it off. It was fun to playthrough the game again with a lot of nice updates. Happy they made it pretty easy to play on your first playthrough. New content spoiler Also glad they didn't really redeem Akechi all that much and he was still a gigantic rear end in a top hat in the extra month
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Apr 22, 2020 06:50
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Ohtsam posted:New content spoiler Definitely. The biggest pleasant surprise in Royal for me was that the expansion of Akechi's role I fully expected to be a complete and total train wreck was actually really well done. His new confidant scenes are a slow burn of his mask slipping as his jealousy and hatred of Joker grow, and in the new month he's in full mask off psycho mode and only cooperating because of a critical shared goal. Final, final boss spoiler: I also love how in the climax of the Maruki fight when the rest of the party is rattling off their emotional character culminating inspirational dialogues, Akechi just snaps at Joker "DO YOUR GODDAMN JOB!" 
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Apr 22, 2020 07:50
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Ohtsam posted:New content spoiler Yeah, the new content feels really really weird. It definitely feels like an addition to an otherwise separate game; it reads way more like fanfiction or a crossover event than the "canon" P5 story. I love what they did with him though. It just sucks that every other character now has to suck, you have to go through two LONG sections of having the exact same conversation with every single person TWICE, once to wake them up and again for the ultimate Persona. Making him continue to be a murder junkie is cool and his Nav lines are GREAT but at the same time it's hard to overlook Futaba crying about being able to see her mom again and then having to say goodbye again to an hour later where she goes and plays pool with her murderer
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Having a legit psychopath on your team after 90 hours of standard Power of Friendship and Killing this Monster Made Me Grow As A Person JRPG dialogue is genuinely extremely refreshing.
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:Yeah, the new content feels really really weird. It definitely feels like an addition to an otherwise separate game; it reads way more like fanfiction or a crossover event than the "canon" P5 story. I love what they did with him though. It just sucks that every other character now has to suck, you have to go through two LONG sections of having the exact same conversation with every single person TWICE, once to wake them up and again for the ultimate Persona. Making him continue to be a murder junkie is cool and his Nav lines are GREAT but at the same time it's hard to overlook Futaba crying about being able to see her mom again and then having to say goodbye again to an hour later where she goes and plays pool with her murderer I do think there was a huge missed opportunity in not having one or two scenes where Futaba and/or Haru confront Akechi over Wakabe and Okumura's deaths. Even something as simple as a scene where Futaba goes to Akechi to confirm he did in fact kill Wakabe, and Akechi responds with some variant of "yes and I'm not sorry about it, I only regret that it was done in service to Shido who turned out to be my enemy" would have gone a long way. I also agree that both accept Akechi being part of the group way too readily, although I do think there was a way to thread the needle of him being in the party and those two accepting it, but being more vocally unhappy about it.
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Sydin posted:I do think there was a huge missed opportunity in not having one or two scenes where Futaba and/or Haru confront Akechi over Wakabe and Okumura's deaths. Even something as simple as a scene where Futaba goes to Akechi to confirm he did in fact kill Wakabe, and Akechi responds with some variant of "yes and I'm not sorry about it, I only regret that it was done in service to Shido who turned out to be my enemy" would have gone a long way. I also agree that both accept Akechi being part of the group way too readily, although I do think there was a way to thread the needle of him being in the party and those two accepting it, but being more vocally unhappy about it. Hell, not just Futaba. Akechi walks right into Leblanc in front of Sojiro who knows he's the one who did it and he doesn't even get some sort of line about it. On an unrelated note, the whole premise of the new world is getting your wishes granted, but we don't have any sort of interaction with what it was he tried to tempt Akechi with? Another missed opportunity RazzleDazzleHour fucked around with this message at 08:24 on Apr 22, 2020 |
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:Hell, not just Futaba. Akechi walks right into Leblanc in front of Sojiro who knows he's the one who did it and he doesn't even get some sort of line about it. On an unrelated note, the whole premise of the new world is getting your wishes granted, but we don't have any sort of interaction with what it was he tried to tempt Akechi with? Another missed opportunity Akechi never received a temptation. He was aware of the sudden shift like Joker.
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AlternateNu posted:Akechi never received a temptation. He was aware of the sudden shift like Joker. joker did (allegedly) get a temptation in the form of akechi, though akechi himself no-sold the dream world because the fun combo of his self-loathing and violent anarchistic tendencies meant that there was nothing he wanted, other than to tear down the world trying to make him happy in the first place i don't think maruki's copy of the DSM had a page for that
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Maybe Akechi’s deepest desire was to be free from his sins, and to be able to spend more time with Joker? He freely admits that he hates him, but it does kind of feel like Joker’s his only friend at times. He’s wise to the deception though because he probably earnestly believes he doesn’t deserve a nice life like that.
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Apropos of nothing, the Q2 soundtrack is a loving banger. I might get the game just for that.
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POLICE CAR AUCTION posted:Didn't see it mentioned in the last few pages, but Sony recently sent me a code for three sick dynamic themes and a bunch of avatars after clearing Futaba's palace so check your email
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POLICE CAR AUCTION posted:Didn't see it mentioned in the last few pages, but Sony recently sent me a code for three sick dynamic themes and a bunch of avatars after clearing Futaba's palace so check your email Doc M posted:They send you three separate emails with different avatar/theme rewards as you progress through the game, and a fourth one if you get the platinum! This is probably also a Non-US thing. I have plat the game and have got nothing. I have not heard anyone in US getting these e-mails.
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mateo360 posted:This is probably also a Non-US thing. I have plat the game and have got nothing. I have not heard anyone in US getting these e-mails. Apparently it's an EU promotion?
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Doc M posted:They send you three separate emails with different avatar/theme rewards as you progress through the game, and a fourth one if you get the platinum! US here, I did finally end up getting the email for the platinum but not the other sets leading up to it. Bummer, I'd definitely have liked them all.
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AlternateNu posted:Apropos of nothing, the Q2 soundtrack is a loving banger. I might get the game just for that. Kitajoh loving rules. He's the main composer on the P5 Scramble soundtrack too, which is at least 35% of the reason I'm excited for that game. If I were king poo poo of the universe i'd get Shoji Meguro to direct the next game, find Tadashi Satomi and hire him back to write it and get Atsushi Kitajoh to do the soundtrack. Hell, Kaneko's still kicking around, right?
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ChaosArgate posted:Maybe Akechi’s deepest desire was to be free from his sins, and to be able to spend more time with Joker? He freely admits that he hates him, but it does kind of feel like Joker’s his only friend at times. He’s wise to the deception though because he probably earnestly believes he doesn’t deserve a nice life like that. I don't know if it was his deepest desire or not, but the temptation for Akechi was definitely a normal life where neither he nor Joker are criminals, and they can have a second shot at their relationship. Maruki spells out as much when he meets with the two at Lablanc. While the player can decide if that's ultimately tempting for Joker or not, it's clear Maruki severely miscalculated with Akechi who's not even tempted for a nanosecond. I think this ultimately comes down to an incongruity between Akechi's personality and Maruki's method: Maruki doesn't actually give people their specific most desired reality, he gives everybody the same reality (a static world where no choices, growth, or emotional and physical pain are possible) and brainwashes those whose personalities or desires conflict with that into desiring it. The "psychiatric test" in his palace confirms this: if you choose answers that aren't in line with Maruki's worldview, he "treats" you until you agree with him. For whatever reason though he chose to try to personally convince Akechi instead of brainwashing him, which was never going to work because Akechi is both a psychopath who enjoys the pain of others, and someone who's genuinely proud of his efforts to raise himself out of the gutter. A perfect world without pain that's just handed to him through no effort on his part is the antithesis of what Akechi desires.
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The scenes when the velvet room equipment fails during an alarm are amazing. The look of pure disgust on Justine's face when the electric chair breaks cracks me up every time.
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The gallows failure scene is pretty disappointing. I honestly couldn’t tell it was failing without the “Skip” button not working.
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Man I was gonna try and finish the game up today but I decided to clean up the compendium, which made me realize I was still missing THREE treasure demons. I've seen that both Crystal Skull and Hope Diamond appear in the new block while Orhicalcum only appears in the new palace, but is there any better way to do this other than grinding fights with a Treasure Trap active?
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:Man I was gonna try and finish the game up today but I decided to clean up the compendium, which made me realize I was still missing THREE treasure demons. I've seen that both Crystal Skull and Hope Diamond appear in the new block while Orhicalcum only appears in the new palace, but is there any better way to do this other than grinding fights with a Treasure Trap active? Nope. The only other places you're (more-or-less) guaranteed to see them are their respective palaces which you don't have access to, anymore.
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