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that certainly appears to be a trustworthy high quality news source you're linking there. in other headline news there's apparently a cat that has stolen 50 pairs of gloves.
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:that certainly appears to be a trustworthy high quality news source you're linking there. in other headline news there's apparently a cat that has stolen 50 pairs of gloves. Mittens wages a never ending war against defined fingers
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:that certainly appears to be a trustworthy high quality news source you're linking there. in other headline news there's apparently a cat that has stolen 50 pairs of gloves.
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Unironically want to buy clear communication skills from loving adults in tyool 2020. Tia
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Apr 22, 2020 16:23
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c wfh s: outside because it is super nice
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its 38 and going to snow again, it snowed three times last week. and this city is buying so much take-home local beer that one of the larger micros just set up a paktech-only recycling drop. lol
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graph posted:its 38 and going to snow again, it snowed three times last week. this is significantly pissing me off. like can it at least be pleasant out while we wait to die in our homes due to criminal government mismanagement
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Apr 22, 2020 22:24
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it snowed a touch here too, but not enough to stick. tomorrow is supposed to be lovely out, so i'm going to go for a nice walk, probably early morning so there's less people
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one of our sister campuses just announced that they're going to do the entire fall semester online. that means it's probably only a matter of time until we make the same decision. gently caress 
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Sagebrush posted:one of our sister campuses just announced that they're going to do the entire fall semester online. that means it's probably only a matter of time until we make the same decision. 
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ours announced a hybrid remote/in-person but that was last week so
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Sagebrush posted:one of our sister campuses just announced that they're going to do the entire fall semester online. that means it's probably only a matter of time until we make the same decision. you are probably about 800% more tuned in on how to operate formerly meatspace things online and i have confidence that your position will be secure and we will find out that this is, yes, less 'personal', but in many ways more effective than lecture halls just think about how bad this would be if you were some 65 year old fucko prof that works via postal letters and office hours and typed memorandums
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like it opens up the possibility of timeshifting, and for working students that would be an amazing development. Sure, it's less 'interactive', but how much of that is essential and how much of it can operate just fine with a 24 hour lag between questions and responses?
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Apr 22, 2020 23:10
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i mean, also, tenure
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Uptime Sinclair posted:i mean, also, tenure it's also 2020 and rules mean nothing, i would not lean on tenure if i had it right now
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Jonny 290 posted:it's also 2020 and rules mean nothing, i would not lean on tenure if i had it right now
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Depending on how long this goes on, It'll be a weird transition for college/university prospective students who were hoping to get away from the parents and party it up and ok do some lectures as well when the whole social side of it (or at least actual IRL meatspace interactions) is going to be chopped off at the ankles. Spring Break Zoom Parties just ain't going to be the same.
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Jonny 290 posted:you are probably about 800% more tuned in on how to operate formerly meatspace things online and i have confidence that your position will be secure and we will find out that this is, yes, less 'personal', but in many ways more effective than lecture halls so far the parts that i like about online teaching are that i can draw directly on the students' screens to mark stuff up, and that the people who show up to class are more punctual. other than that it blows. i don't teach 500-student lectures. shop classes cannot be done online to any realistic level and studio classes really suck without the in-person interaction. doing courses by correspondence isn't remotely (ha) a new idea, and there's a reason it hasn't replaced in-person teaching, despite the administrators' constant drooling over the student tuition : faculty pay ratio. yes, it would be far worse if i weren't a dorky millennial who knows Computer Stuff. some of the older professors basically just went AWOL the moment online teaching was announced, "you can't make me teach like this" and then no contact in over a month, and we're all doing our best to help their students but in general they're hosed. it would be nice if the online teaching thing let us trim some of the dead wood for dereliction of duty but lol: Uptime Sinclair posted:i mean, also, tenure Jonny 290 posted:it's also 2020 and rules mean nothing, i would not lean on tenure if i had it right now tenure is completely sacred and if they start cutting jobs it will absolutely go in order of academic rank. i'm somewhere in the middle of the list so my job is almost certainly secure but so it is also for the crappiest of the crappy old farts. right now they're predicting a 15% drop in student enrollment next semester and the realistic assessment is that that's optimistic. that translates directly into about 150-300 adjuncts getting canned unless the union manages to pull something off. rip
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imagine going from staying inside with your parents for like 9 months to the first week back in the dorms. so many people gonna end up in the hospital.
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my cousin teaches directing and acting classes and its kind of hard to give feedback about emoting more or whatever the gently caress to a zoom window. focusing a lot more on monologues these days.
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power botton posted:imagine going from staying inside with your parents for like 9 months to the first week back in the dorms. so many people gonna end up pregnant.
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These people suck so hard and it's not just a university thing. Every job I've ever worked has these people. "I've been here for 30 years, any change to my routine will involve me either pitching a giant fit if it's a small change or literally ghosting if it's a major thing" The record for me was the guy who was told to move into a new office space and proceeded to go awol for two months, then took all of his sick leave, then all of his annual leave, then finally his long service leave, resulting in two years away from the office. At which point he came back to tender his resignation. he was told to move one building over lol
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abigserve posted:
uh this guy owns
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abigserve posted:These people suck so hard and it's not just a university thing. Every job I've ever worked has these people. "I've been here for 30 years, any change to my routine will involve me either pitching a giant fit if it's a small change or literally ghosting if it's a major thing"
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abigserve posted:These people suck so hard and it's not just a university thing. Every job I've ever worked has these people. "I've been here for 30 years, any change to my routine will involve me either pitching a giant fit if it's a small change or literally ghosting if it's a major thing" Living the dream. Any time somebody goes away for 2 months for non-child-having reasons I just assume they’re gone.
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one of my last jobs there was this guy who would go out and party and just... not show up for weeks at a time. he was salaried but he didn't take leave or anything and they still paid him. he didn't even try to hide it; managers would call up and ask and he'd be honest that he'd been too busy with his social life to make it to work. i guess he was good at what he did because for whatever reason they let him keep doing this
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Broken Machine posted:one of my last jobs there was this guy who would go out and party and just... not show up for weeks at a time. he was salaried but he didn't take leave or anything and they still paid him. he didn't even try to hide it; managers would call up and ask and he'd be honest that he'd been too busy with his social life to make it to work. i guess he was good at what he did because for whatever reason they let him keep doing this we had someone who did this one time and got fired so fast
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i didn't go into the university for the whole summer when my dad died and a bunch of the faculty were surprised when i was still teaching next fall. i guess they figured i had just quit my job? why meanwhile some of the old farts are literally gone, out of the country, completely out of contact, from may 15th to august 25th just because they can and everyone shrugs
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Broken Machine posted:one of my last jobs there was this guy who would go out and party and just... not show up for weeks at a time. he was salaried but he didn't take leave or anything and they still paid him. he didn't even try to hide it; managers would call up and ask and he'd be honest that he'd been too busy with his social life to make it to work. i guess he was good at what he did because for whatever reason they let him keep doing this this describes at least half of the financial traders here sorry I wasn’t at work I was on a coke bender in the Philippines for two weeks
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in finance that’s called networking
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the one take i will put Real Hard Wager Money on is that 99.5% of any "coronavirus baby boom" will be first children. I cant imagine anybody getting boners while theyre locked in their condo with a screaming 2 year old for the past 7 weeks
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Looking after toddlers is always exhausting but it's particularly rough not being able to take them to a playground and let them go ballistic/get all that energy out
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Jonny 290 posted:the one take i will put Real Hard Wager Money on is that 99.5% of any "coronavirus baby boom" will be first children. I cant imagine anybody getting boners while theyre locked in their condo with a screaming 2 year old for the past 7 weeks sex is a good distraction from babies
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have you ever had sex echi
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I've met his kids so I'd say yeah probably
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Sagebrush posted:right now they're predicting a 15% drop in student enrollment next semester and the realistic assessment is that that's optimistic. that translates directly into about 150-300 adjuncts getting canned unless the union manages to pull something off. rip what happens to tenure if the institution goes bankrupt?
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tenure doesn't actually mean there are situations in which you can't be fired; it just gives you the right to a hearing and rebuttal (which functionally takes the form of a court case) should you be dismissed. universities are loath to go through that process unless they're sure they will win, which reduces the causes for dismissal down to a few super blatant ones. "you're fired because the university closed down" would not be a case anyone could realistically rebut. however, "we had to cut staff and we fired you before the more junior faculty" would definitely cause a stink so that won't happen. in the case where the institution goes bankrupt, i'd imagine it would get rolled up and reopened under new management with the same people, and if they decide to cut costs they'd fire all the adjuncts before a single tenure-track professor. i can't think of many cases where a (real, accredited) university was just outright shut down and abandoned.
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for the record, i think the total list of valid causes is - academic dishonesty like plagiarism or falsifying data - breaking the law in an obvious way - violation of ethical guidelines (sex with students) (maybe, if it was "consensual" you'll probably just get a mandatory sabbatical) - just outright stop coming to class (though they would probably "put you on unpaid leave" forever) - student enrollment decreased to the point where they can't meet your contract (all the more junior faculty would have to be fired first) - department/college/university is disestablished (see above note, and they'd probably punt you to some other job if possible)
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