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“U... Umm... Is that you, Keiji?”  “I'll open it now.” “...Thanks.” “What exactly... do you want?” “...I'll get straight to the point, Sara.” “...?” “Sara, you're...” “...Nwuh?” “...............” “...Waha...”  (S... Shoot! I made a weird sound!) “Ahh, thank goodness... If you really were the Sacrifice, I'd have been pretty worried.” “I-I haven't confirmed anything yet!” “You make it obvious, but you won't confess... Sure enough, you're clever.” “But you're still a bad liar, huh?” (Hrrrgh...) “...Whew.”Music stops.  “...!!” “Not gonna trust me at my word though, are you...” “ 'Scuse me for a second.” “Huh...?” “What are you doing?!” “...Presenting proof, I guess?” Keiji went on inserting token after token. “Ahoy-hoy...” (Don't tell me...!!)Music stops. (The tablet again...!)   (A trade?!) “Huh... So you were a Commoner, Sara.” “Did you just trade?! Your Keymaster... for my Commoner!!” “That proves it to you, right? Your friendly policeman's the Keym...”
 “Uh...” “That was a valuable chance for a trade! Why did you go and waste it on this?!” “Huh... You're mad at me?” “I'm not mad!!” “...” “We've only got 3 hours. No time to waste suspecting each other over roles.” “...! I understand.” “You must have an idea. Tell it to me.” “Right...” Talk to Keiji. “Say, Sara. What sorts of methods could we escape by, you think?” “We could search for an exit without letting the kidnappers find us out.” “That’s true. Maybe we can avoid the watchful eye of the Floor Masters.” “Sure enough, the thing we need… is information.” “Where is this place? What sort of building is it? “A floor map…!” “Who among us would know something like that?” “Kai... of course.” “Exactly. Way to go, Sara.” “Even if he didn’t know the details of the Death Game, he might have known something about this facility.” (But Kai’s gone now…) “So then… the laptop he left behind?” “Yep. There’s still info we haven’t checked on that laptop.”  (...It’ll be hard to get back.) “And that brings us to…” “…?” “You remember the place we found it?” (That room full of rubble…?)Music stops. “Well, I did a little detectiving there.” “You got a sec, Sara?” “W… What is it?” Keiji whispered in my ear. “Wha…?!” “Now, let’s move. There’s no time.” “H… Hold on, Keiji!” (Kai was in that room?)      “Sara...” “What's the matter?” “.....” “...” “...” “...I thought, I should be thinking about a way for us to escape, too...” “I'll tell you right away if I find anything, Sara.” “...Strange.” “Huh?” “Maybe I'll lend you my aid, Sara.” “Your aid...?”    Talk to Nao. “I'll tell you right away if I find anything, Sara.”Music stops.  “U-Um... Is something wrong...?” “Nah, it's nothing...” “E-Err, I'll be going then...” “...” (What was that sensation...?) “Hm?” “Did you just see something too, Sara?” “Huh...?!”   “You mean Nao is hiding something?!” “Dunno. Unfortunately, we don't exactly have time to confirm that right now.” “Let's do what we have to. There's only ever one option to take.” (Nao...) “So, the Room of Rubble is past the Ruined Corridor. Let's go.”
 Talk to Q-taro. Q-taro is sitting silently. “Now, what am I gonna do...”   “Are you looking for leads on escape, Q-taro?” “Don't casually switch over to conversation!! You freaked me out!!” “I'm lookin', but... Sure 'nuff, nothin' new...” “Kai's laptop... 's pretty much all I got...” “Would be nice to persuade Sou... But he ain't leaving his room. And Kanna's with him too... Hope he don't use her for nothin' evil.” (…)Look at Q-taro. I sense impatience from Q-taro... “Maybe the reason he's not entirely at wit's end... is because he's got lots of tokens.”
 Talk to Alice Alice is gazing toward the Room of Lies.  “Um... Are you okay?” “Hmph... Don't worry about it, Sara Chidouin.” “My feet just naturally came here... I won't go any further than this.” “More importantly, Sara Chidouin.” “Huh...?” “She said brave things around me... But her wounds may be deep after all...”  “If I did go back... I'd surely also...”Look at Alice. I feel... a quiet anger from Alice... “That's no good... Feels like he's up to something.”
  Talk to Nao. Nao is staring directly at Reko's body. She doesn't seem to notice us at all. (Sure enough, she's acting strange...!) “Sara... Not right now...” (Urgh...!)Look at Nao. I sense pressing emotions from Nao... “...There's no time right now, Sara.”   Investigate Reko's picture.  (Reko...)Talk to Gashu.  “I'm terribly sorry... You may not use the Prize Exchange anymore.” “I am cleaning up the prizes, so apologies if it gets dusty.”Look at Gashu. I can't tell anything about Gashu. (Since I've hardly even talked to him...) “...The time you spent together's important for this.” Music stops.  “Huh...?!” “...Looks like we're not alone.”   (What in the word is he doing...?) “...This is it, meow!” (A passage appeared!!) “..........” “...See, I can...!”  “Let's tail him.” “...” (Why did Gin know about this room...? If he just happened to find it, that's fine, but...)  Investigate the door.  Music stops. “Okie-dokie. But promise me one thing.” “...?” “In the off chance there's something dangerous waiting up ahead...”
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He really didn't waste any time huh. Unless he has 50 more tokens stashed away that was kind of a silly move. I would think rule 1 for this game would be "always have enough tokens to revert any bad trades you get".
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Apr 24, 2020 23:13
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Is it still too late to trade Me-Tokens? They never actually took away the tokens, so in theory, you could still trade the ones with your name to give them value. In this case, Sara could give Keiji a bunch more to spend if anything happened. Given how the game is structured, however, I don't think this will become an option for us.
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Apr 24, 2020 23:28
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I'm glad that Mr. Policeman's actually a good boy after all.
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He could have been the Sage or otherwise known the identity of the Keymaster and guessed that Sara had the Commoner role. But yeah he seems to be a good lad so far.
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Lord_Magmar posted:He could have been the Sage or otherwise known the identity of the Keymaster and guessed that Sara had the Commoner role. But yeah he seems to be a good lad so far. Wait. Does the current Sage's tablet constantly tell them the current Keymaster even during the trading phase? I had been thinking the Sage wouldn't get their "divination" until the trading phase was over and all the roles were locked in, but it would certainly be an interesting twist if they had the current info all along. Of course, since this group seems to have gotten the idea in their heads that the Sage is the safest person to axe, maybe nobody would want to hold onto that card even so.
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He's still a suspicious character, but he's unlikely to screw us over this round... probably. Maybe. I hope.
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PlasticAutomaton posted:I'm glad that Mr. Policeman's actually a good boy after all. Keiji is probably my favourite character. Interesting combination of traits.
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Hazdoc posted:He's still a suspicious character, but he's unlikely to screw us over this round... probably. Maybe. I hope. Nah, Mr Policeman's just walking around with a shitload of guilt and god-knows-what-else, trying to not to let whatever hosed him up happen to Sara (if not everyone else). He's a good lad, and betrayal's not really something I'd expect him to do. I'm more worried about some kind of almost-certainly-pointless self-sacrifice if anything.
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I suspect his main motivation here is to protect Sara. He's recognised that she's still their best chance of getting out of there.
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Apr 25, 2020 16:51
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“Ah, poo poo, THERE’S the protagonist.”
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He probably let his companion die during the first trial, though, if that victim video is to be believed.
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Apr 25, 2020 19:04
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That person seems like she might have been part of the reason he's an ex-detective. Not that this totally excuses just sitting back and watching someone get killed, but I'd bet it wouldn't affect how he's going to deal with anyone else.
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   The further we advance, the steeper the slope gets. “Careful not to slip.” “Y-Yeah.” (Gin... How far did you go...?) “Hm...? It's a dead end.” “Ah...! Keiji, isn't this...” There's a hole like a trash chute in the floor. (Gin must be through here!) “Let's drop down.” (Huh? It seems somehow familiar...)Investigate the chute. This is where we came from. “To think it would connect to here...”Talk to Keiji. “Well, now, I remember coming here.” “If I remember right...” “The place where Nao was hiding out and holding Professor Mishima's head...” (It's pitch black... Was Nao sitting in the dark like this, too...? All alone... talking to Mishima's head...) “Nao was despairing...”  “Amazing how she could recover from that.” “...We're all getting stronger, bit by bit.” “Yeah... But at the same time...” “............” “No, forget it.” “...” “I wonder if Kai noticed this secret passage...” “Yeah, that's the feeling I'm getting.” “Huh...?!” “Whether he knew it from the start or only noticed while searching, I don't know...” (Kai came to the third floor, and placed the laptop there... He's right, it's possible.) “Wahaha... That's convinced me, personally.” “...Alright. Let's go look for Gin.”  Investigate white door. The white door is shut fast.Investigate red door. The door leading to the grounds where the Main Game is held... presumably.Investigate black door.    Investigate the blackboard. I can faintly make out some erased words. (…?)  
Investigate the blackboard. It appears to be a blackboard. There's a list of names.  “Could these be the names of all the participants in the Death Game?” “Huh... Now that I think about it, this could be pretty important info.” “Might want to commit it to memory.” “...Yeah. Bet there are people waiting for 'em to come back...” (...Right. This... isn't just our tragedy.)Investigate Joe.  “...” “What's up, Sara?” “Oh, it's nothing.” (I'm fine... I...) 
  Investigate the sparkles under the painting. Something's on the floor under the painting... Investigate Joe.  “...” (Shouldn't look at them...)  Investigate the sparkles on the bookshelf. There's something on the bookshelf...  The door is shut fast. I can't go to the Pink Room. (Huh...? I wonder why? I'll check the door.)Investigate the door. It's locked and won't open. “Ngh, this door... Was it always locked?” “No...” Taking a closer look at the doorknob, I found a dial lock on the side. (I can just try every possibility, and I'll have solved it in 9 tries...) “Hold on, Sara. There are little holes on the knob.” “Holes...?” “...! Then I can't get this wrong.” “Sure there's no hint somewhere in this room? You should know what's up before you try.” (Even though it was open the first time...) Investigate writing on the door. There's small writing under the doorknob. “Input the number of kiddos who can't drink.” “Huh... Is this our hint?” (It's a little sarcastic... But I think I can solve the dial riddle now!)Investigate the door again.  
(How about 9...?!) The handle turns with a click, and the door opens. (Looks like that was right...!) “Way to go, Sara. Now we can enter the Pink Room.”  Investigate the vent. A heart-shaped vent. “The door's open...” “It's big enough for a person to fit into. Hmm...” (It's pitch black through there...) “It might lead somewhere else entirely.” “Even knowing the dangers, eh... Let's go.” “Watch your step...”Investigate the figure. There's some... thing here. (It's almost... like a person...) “A person...?” Just as Keiji reached out his hand... “This is Miley...!” “K-Keiji! Get away...! “...” “No...” “Huh?!” (What does he mean...?!) “It's just a powerless doll. Not moving an inch.”  “Wait a second.” “Why'd you figure that?” “...Think back on what's happened so far.” “And...” “That's why... I figured Miley was probably human...” “Wahaha... Great memory, Sara. You're exactly right.” “This doll is probably the Miley we first met.” “First...?” “After the 11 of us came together...” “Come to think of it... We searched for the parts, then assembled her.” (And after a white gas filled the room... Miley suddenly started to move.) (A white... gas? That's right, the room that filled with gas is connected to this room by the ventilation...!) “That's when the human Miley swapped herself in.” (So that was it...!) “All starting to line up, isn't it?”Music stops.  “Let's keep searching.” (I wonder if Miley is still on this floor somewhere...) Investigate the window. Behind the thick glass, I can see a figure that appears to be sleeping. “Keiji! There's a person...!” “Hmm... Doesn't show any signs of moving.” (Do they not notice us...?) “Can't imagine it's a survivor at this point...” “For now, doesn't seem there's any way we can get to the other side anyway.” “Let's leave quietly when we're done searching...”Investigate door. The door is shut fast. (There's no handle... It probably can't be opened manually.)Investigate fridge. It looks like a refrigerator. (It won't open...)Investigate lights. The light is brightening up the room. (Why did the lights suddenly come on...?)Investigate computer. A computer tower. (Better make sure not to kick it.)Investigate table. Machine parts are scattered about. Investigate table drawer. There are computer disks in the drawer. (Hm? This one has a label on it....) “Security camera...?!” “Well now... We might've been getting filmed.” “You don't mean... the whole time...?” “It's not so strange... There's too many of us for just the Floor Masters to watch over.” “Could we look at the footage?” “Got you curious, eh?” “...Yes.” “We can probably view the footage on that computer.” (Should we watch it...?)Investigate monitor. A glowing computer screen. (What...? There's some video playing...)  (It's...!) “I didn't know!! I didn't know anything!!” “You're listening there, aren't you?! Help meeee...!!”  “Hey! Say something back!! I won't tell anyone...!! I promise!!” “...? Is this a video recording...?” “Why... why is all this necessary?!” (She...?) “I've got no qualms!! I just want to live in peace...!!” “...Ooghhh...”Music stops. “Don't tell me...”   “Wha...?!”    “AAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh!!!” “...No...!!”  “I have no idea what's going on...!! This... this video...!!” “But... He said your name...” “I don't know why...!!” “Sara....” “No way...!! But... I really...!!” It's no use. The more I say... the more suspicious I look. e
HydroSphere fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Apr 25, 2020 |
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Apr 25, 2020 22:00
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Oh boy. That's definitely some ominous information coming in.
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So, the whole Death Game is a training program for Sara? Likely set up by her mysterious parents who are totally Yakuza or the like. Or maybe it was the case, but it's been taken over by the experiment?
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Apr 25, 2020 22:16
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Keeping up our ID parade, this is probably Shunsuke Hayanaka, the office worker, judging by his outfit.
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How does Gashu's negative emotion research fit into this? ...maybe the point of this is to turn Sara into a cold-hearted emotionless manipulator by breaking her.
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Apr 25, 2020 23:28
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drat you, Protagonist Jones!
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Apr 26, 2020 06:36
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There's a double sized gap between Sou and Naomichi's names, so it probably said "Shun" originally and got changed to Sou later leaving a gap where the 'n' was.
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This board was in Japanese in the original, right? シュン (Shun) ソウ (Sou) EDIT: see below, the name is シン (Shin). The space wouldn't exist in JP. The board is written in the JP alphabetic order. Sou got lucky that his fake name happened to be between Shunsuke and Naomichi. (Q-Taro is the only exception to the alphabetic order, but perhaps his name literally starts with a Q in the Japanese version.) NeoRonTheNeuron fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Apr 26, 2020 |
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Apr 26, 2020 22:39
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The name is Shin, however, which is only two characters (しん).
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Oh right, I had a sad feeling that it was like that. I can't explain the extra space then.
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NeoRonTheNeuron posted:The board is written in the JP alphabetic order. Sou got lucky that his fake name happened to be between Shunsuke and Naomichi. (Q-Taro is the only exception to the alphabetic order, but perhaps his name literally starts with a Q in the Japanese version.) Yeah, it literally starts with a Q. I snagged this from someone's Japanese SSLP - 
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VGPerson might have added the extra space because it would have been there in English, if there were enough chapters out when she started translating that she already knew Sou's real name or Nankidai gave her some extra information to avoid the translation ruining twists.
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 “...”Music stops. “How amusing...” “Um...?”  “Your... life...?” “Hm? That's been my plan for a while now.”  “That's... a heavy burden for me.” “...Too bad.” “What if...” “Let's see now...”  "I don't intend to die." “...That's a good answer.” “Okay, let's search around a little more.” “...Right.” Trust... Keiji never wants to talk about himself. There must be a past he can't talk about. A truth he can't say. Even so, Keiji bet on me. Can I... bet on Keiji...? (I...)Investigate monitor. (I'll put in the disk from the drawer.) The computer began loading the video. “When we all first met up.” (Sure enough... We were being observed!) (Huh? This video doesn't have sound...) (Ah...)  (Joe...) Music stops.  “...!!” “Sara...?” “I-I'm okay. What is it?” “This video's pretty long. We should probably skip to the important parts.” “You're right...” “Are you prepared...?” “Huh...?”  “...!” (That's true... What if some distrustful act got recorded...? Keiji is still suspecting...)  “You didn't do anything suspect, did you, Keiji?” “...” “Wahaha... Defiant, aren't you.” “Let's watch the rest, shall we?”     “Sara...” “...It's okay. Keep it going.” “...You sure are strong.” “Hm...?”  (It's one of the role cards used in the first Main Game! W-Who... who just placed it?)    “Whew... That's some unexpected footage.” “To think Q-taro was the one who set the role cards in place...” “We had a discussion like this before, remember? The one who set up the cards should have been Sou!”     “All of it... was a trap laid by Sou, I thought!” “But from what we can see in this video... It's Q-taro who placed the cards first. Sou just saw him and adopted it, that's all.” “No way...!”Music stops. “Well, there's not much video left.”    (It was all true...) Some mysteries solved, others added. Keeping my hazy feelings in check, I let the remaining bit of video play. “Are Joe and Kai talking about something?”     “Such enigmatic faces... Just what were those two talking one-on-one about?” (Joe never told me about anything like this...!) “Hmm... That's everything of note in the footage.” (…) “Sure took up some time. We should leave here soon.” “You hold onto this disk, Sara.” “Okay...!”Music stops.  Investigate the monitor.   “I'll watch Victim Disk E.” The computer began loading the video.   “Why did this... happen to me...” “Is there... someone there?”  “Ahh, this sucks rear end... Seriously...?” “Sure, my life was pretty boring, and I didn't care about the future... But now...?” “When I'm bleeding this much from my gut? Why doesn't it hurt...” “Hey... Am I... still alive...? Hey...” The video ends here. He was probably a high-schooler. A human... about the same age as me. What am I saying?   (...I'm thinking idiotic things. For his sake, too, I...)Investigate monitor.  “I'll watch Victim Disk F.” The computer began loading the video.   “Whyyy...!! Why does this have to happennn?!” “How could I possibly know which one's right?! I can't do ittt! I can't fire these things!!” “Sniff...” “W-What?! The collar's... tightening...!! Stop ittt! I can't breathe...!!” “Oo... Oooo... oooghhh!” Music stops. The video ends here. (Urgh!! Is this from the First Trial, too?! It's just too cruel...!! How could you think up such a thing?!) I thought I knew entirely well. That our enemies were practically demons. (Even so... being shown this...) Can we escape...? From demons who make us do things like this..? (...We'll escape them, all right!!)  
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Quick, someone learn how to read lips!
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The dialogue options make me suspicious that there's a death flag somewhere along the "Trust Keiji/Don't Trust Keiji" continuum.
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Apr 28, 2020 03:04
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Seems these type of games always have traitors or insiders in the group as part of the story.
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Wow that trial with the guns is like... that's a bullshit trial from Zero Time Dilemna. Like "Hey, here's two guns, fuckin' pick." "Is there... anything to determine which gun to fire?" "No!" That's not a trial, that's a coinflip, you might as well just flip a coin when the trial starts and go "Okay and you're dead."
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Onmi posted:Wow that trial with the guns is like... that's a bullshit trial from Zero Time Dilemna. Like "Hey, here's two guns, fuckin' pick." "Is there... anything to determine which gun to fire?" "No!" The thing with ZTD is the bullshit nature of the trials is their very point. If the participants don't know which will do what, it creates a far greater divergence in possible outcomes due to the indecisive nature of choosing between them. To be fair, we're not actually seeing the whole trial here, just how they failed. Remember Sara and Joe's own trial had the key hidden within the key that got both out instead of just one.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:The thing with ZTD is the bullshit nature of the trials is their very point. If the participants don't know which will do what, it creates a far greater divergence in possible outcomes due to the indecisive nature of choosing between them. yeah, its possible there was a clue to not make it a 50/50, and they just didn't see it. Sara and Joe's trial was basically a 50/50 too except they figured out the trick
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Well, since I've been tracking these so far, might as well finish it out! We've put faces to almost all of the dead characters' names now. Naomichi Kurumada - Boxer Shunsuke Hayanaka - Office Worker Anzu Kinashi - High-school student Mai Tsurugi - Baker Ranmaru Kageyama - High-school student Megumi Sasahara - Detective Hinako Mishumu - Middle school student Kugie Kizuchi - High-school student Shin Tsukimi - Self-employed Shin being almost certainly the person we know as Sou, by some route or other. Anzu is still a bit speculative since all we see there is feet, but since everyone else is identified that seems pretty solid to me.
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Hazdoc posted:yeah, its possible there was a clue to not make it a 50/50, and they just didn't see it. Sara and Joe's trial was basically a 50/50 too except they figured out the trick I guess, immediately jumping to mind is... I know likely "well if she didn't point it at herself her choker would kill her." But like... her arms don't look locked in place... Shoot... shoot the guns away from you?
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Onmi posted:I guess, immediately jumping to mind is... I know likely "well if she didn't point it at herself her choker would kill her." But like... her arms don't look locked in place... Shoot... shoot the guns away from you? If it's set-up like the later revolver game that Sara went through, the trick is indeed probably shooting at something else to work out which is loaded with blanks.
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I wonder how much these other participants will matter in the future, seeing as they went through the trouble of making design for them.
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Goon Boots posted:I wonder how much these other participants will matter in the future, seeing as they went through the trouble of making design for them. Im going to guess that they were having a bit of fun with the concept and design, but with regards to actual plot they are extras.
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Well good to know that Q-Taro has been playing games right from the start. He must have been picking up cards right from the start looking for a good one. Though how he knew what was good and what was bad is beyond me.
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