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Yet no one tries to come up with some stupid bullshit about how Usopp's mom was poisoned or something instead of just sick, smdh
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Oh Snapple! posted:I will never, ever understand the embarrassingly desperate need some people have for Kuina's death to be more than "life is hosed up and unfair and can end in an instant over the simplest things." Agreed. CodfishCartographer even came up with a good justification as to why it should be this way in the blind read thread: CodfishCartographer posted:I remember loving Zoro's backstory immediately upon reading it, because it touches on something that anime practically never examines: a goal that's ACTUALLY unattainable.
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Apr 26, 2020 10:02
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There's a certain kind of person who sees plot threads as a kind of logic puzzle rather than an emotional tool.
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I think I've heard like 300 times in relation to Kuina that "fallen down the stairs" is a common euphemism for suicide in Japan. Is this actually bullshit? I always took that and Zoro's comment about her "running away from the promise" to be a strong implication.
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Apr 26, 2020 12:32
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It's not a metaphor for suicide.
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NowonSA posted:So looking at the blind read thread got me thinking. Since Kuina's family seems to have some Wano connections, and a girl who could beat Zoro 2,000 times dying from falling down stairs is lame any way you slice it (Edit: drat you'll never believe me, but this pun was not intended at all), what are the odds that her death was part of a plot by one of the baddies in this Wano arc? Zoro's always been a badass, but I could definitely sign up for him completely losing his poo poo and showing us how close to "a hero cuts up someone into tiny pieces" you can get in a shonen magazine. Oda's shown some wild writing chops, but I personally would be totally okay with him just slapping a simple "killed Kuina for reasons" tag onto one of Kaido's lieutenants and having Zoro cut that person up. ...... why would you want anything like this. I actually don’t understand how you could think this would make the story better. What kind of silly reasoning could Kaido have for even ordering it.
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To be fair Kuina's death is exactly the kind of thing a cape comic wouldn't be able to leave alone either.
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Apr 26, 2020 14:32
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Instead of Kuina coming back let's pray Tashigi comes back
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Apr 26, 2020 14:37
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Kuina trained hard during the timeskip and became even more dead.
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Apr 26, 2020 14:42
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Kuina's stairs are gonna become the Pirate King.
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Dr Subterfuge posted:To be fair Kuina's death is exactly the kind of thing a cape comic wouldn't be able to leave alone either. There's are so many reasons to avoid the current crop of western comics, but the inability to keep characters dead is one of the worst things DC/Marvel comic writers do. Don't just use death as a cheap emotional gut punch, it has mean to something or no one cares because you know that character will come back eventually ( I say this being a big fan of Dragonball, but you know at least you have to use a wish granting dragon to get them back which is at least cool).
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Libra posted:Kuina trained hard during the timeskip and became even more dead. Everyone thought that Zoro was going to be the strongest swordsman, but Brook's final fight against Zombie Kuina was epic
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Tir McDohl posted:Everyone thought that Zoro was going to be the strongest swordsman, but Brook's final fight against Zombie Kuina was epic You joke, but with fruits like Moria's out there, you never know... EDIT: If a writer who didn't understand that subtlety tried to do something, they'd probably have Brook use his fruit to bring back Kuina's soul or something and have her possess Tashigi for one last showdown with Zoro. Mraagvpeine fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Apr 26, 2020 |
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Yeah, the chapter is officially out https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/one-piece-chapter-978/chapter/20405?action=read
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lol the clothing power finally came back
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The World Inferno posted:lol the clothing power finally came back I legit forgot Kin had a devil fruit for awhile.
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Kin's ability to instantly create an entirely new wave of character designs to merchandise the hell out of is genius on Oda's part
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I was a little confused with the panel revealing the tobi reppo, it looked like Black Maria's portrait had been put in the wrong place and without a border. But then I realized, oh, no, she's just in the background, and a giant. It does look like she has the same kind of horns as Kaido. Everyone else has horns as part of a hat or a headband or something, but hers are coming right out of her scalp, and are even two-tone, white (or some lighter color) at the roots. Of course that doesn't actually prove anything, it could still just be a headband or for show or whatever, but it's a neat detail! I remember back in Impel Down I was convinced Magellan was some sort of weird devil person with real horns, but then he took them off and used them like boxing gloves in a fight.
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Oh Snapple! posted:I will never, ever understand the embarrassingly desperate need some people have for Kuina's death to be more than "life is hosed up and unfair and can end in an instant over the simplest things." Big Hat actually targeted Toshigi all those years ago but unfortunately the stairs stairs fruit holder is actually Zoro's dad, who also has terrible directional intelligence. Julias posted:Yeah, the chapter is officially out I really hate how they cut the two page spreads into 2 images instead of one.
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Oh Snapple! posted:I will never, ever understand the embarrassingly desperate need some people have for Kuina's death to be more than "life is hosed up and unfair and can end in an instant over the simplest things." The problem is that in the rest of One Piece, death doesn’t work that way. Actually, as we see with Spandam, in the rest of One Piece, ordinary human bodies don’t work that way! It’s an overly realistic touch in the context of a comedy-melodrama like One Piece, basically.
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Gyges posted:Big Hat actually targeted Toshigi all those years ago but unfortunately the stairs stairs fruit holder is actually Zoro's dad, who also has terrible directional intelligence. So it's funny, it does one page at a time on my phone, but it does the double page spreads proper on desktop.
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Silver2195 posted:The problem is that in the rest of One Piece, death doesn’t work that way. Actually, as we see with Spandam, in the rest of One Piece, ordinary human bodies don’t work that way! I mean, to be fair, Kuina's death happens in like chapter 3. It's hard to judge it based on stuff that happens hundreds of chapters later.
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Aren't Luffy, Ace, Sabo, Doflamingo, and Law the only kids who have been shown to be able to take a One Piece adult sized beating anyway? Every other kid seems to be "normal" in that a flight of stairs would be a serious opponent.
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Plot Twist: Moria returns with Kuina, Roger and Gin in his corpse army.
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Begemot posted:I was a little confused with the panel revealing the tobi reppo, it looked like Black Maria's portrait had been put in the wrong place and without a border. But then I realized, oh, no, she's just in the background, and a giant. Considering there has been mentions of Oni coming to Kaido's party. I'm guessing he and Black Maria are both Oni/Giants of some sort.
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It's gonna turn out Onigashima was originally a trade post in Wano for the Giants and Kaido and Black Maria are the descendants.
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Gyges posted:Aren't Luffy, Ace, Sabo, Doflamingo, and Law the only kids who have been shown to be able to take a One Piece adult sized beating anyway? Every other kid seems to be "normal" in that a flight of stairs would be a serious opponent. And Linlin, of course.  More seriously, Sanji as a child survived without food longer than a real-world child should be capable of. I think that’s enough examples that Kuina appears to be the exception rather than the rule.Edit: I think Vivi and Kohza were reasonably tough as kids too, but I don’t remember the details. Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Apr 27, 2020 |
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Xelkelvos posted:It's gonna turn out Onigashima was originally a trade post in Wano for the Giants and Kaido and Black Maria are the descendants. Honestly, this is shockingly likely. Oars and Little Oars Jr both have horns too, and we know that Moriah was digging up corpses in Wano at least a little bit, given Ryuuma.
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Silver2195 posted:And Linlin, of course. Coby kept getting whacked by Alvida's spiked club, too. I guess if you're resilient enough to take a beating as a kid then there's a good chance you'll become really strong as an adult.
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Silver2195 posted:And Linlin, of course. apparently having your neck broken is just really loving lethal
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Toki is alive. She is now married to Kaido. She is the mother of Kaido's son. She did this to let her son and daughter through Oden live. Kaido did this to have access or claim to the throne for when he eventually disposes of Orochi. Kaido is aware of his role in the story through Toki and marches forward willingly. He tested her predictions by trying to kill himself when she told him he would not die since he still had a role to play. Orochi is unaware of most of this. The falling out Big Mom and Kaido had was over Kaido leaving Big Mom for Toki. Philosopher King fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Apr 27, 2020 |
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Elfgames posted:apparently having your neck broken is just really loving lethal Unless your name is Spandam
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I'm so pumped for the next 50 chapters. Every player of the current arc are all together in one castle. And it's even a Skull Island!
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I'm guessing the Numbers won't be fully revealed until the actual battle is underway, and it will be an awesome two-page spread of just an army of Awakened pseudo-Zoan users.
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NowonSA posted:So looking at the blind read thread got me thinking. Since Kuina's family seems to have some Wano connections, and a girl who could beat Zoro 2,000 times dying from falling down stairs is lame any way you slice it (Edit: drat you'll never believe me, but this pun was not intended at all), what are the odds that her death was part of a plot by one of the baddies in this Wano arc? Zoro's always been a badass, but I could definitely sign up for him completely losing his poo poo and showing us how close to "a hero cuts up someone into tiny pieces" you can get in a shonen magazine. Oda's shown some wild writing chops, but I personally would be totally okay with him just slapping a simple "killed Kuina for reasons" tag onto one of Kaido's lieutenants and having Zoro cut that person up. Zoro has a need to be the Strongest Swordsman because he was robbed of the chance to beat his first rival due to the worst bad luck. His fatalism and willingness to gamble can also be drawn from this moment.
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Silver2195 posted:And Linlin, of course. Sanji is a literal Gattica baby, so he hardly counts.
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Elfgames posted:apparently having your neck broken is just really loving lethal Just like one piece people are naturally more resilient and strong. So are the stairs These are One piece death stairs, scourge of the land and seas, doom of all who wish to ascend (and descend)
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