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Infinitum
Jul 30, 2004


Hello friends,

This is a thread for discussing the recent The Last of Us 2 leak.
Please feel free to talk about the leak and the spoilers it contains within the confines of this thread.

Do!
- Post spoilers using the [Spoiler] tag.
- Talk about the leak, where it might have came from, and the industry issues surrounding it. (As it is likely an employee which has done so)

:siren: Do Not! :siren:
- Post spoilers outside of this thread :siren:
- Post spoilers outside of tags
- Post links/videos/pictures to the leak
- Where to get the leak :filez:

I am sure your Google-Fu is well up the challenge.

Failure to adhere to the rules will see you going on an extended vacation.
If you see someone breaking these rules, please feel free to grab any of the Games IKs or VideoGames.

Thank you!

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JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
:firstpost: the new character kills Joel and Ellie in what will be described as a lesbian rage

I think his is actually not real I don't loving know hahaha

JBP fucked around with this message at 10:11 on Apr 27, 2020

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



Well I guess Joel is dead!

...but not in the cool "he's a Battlestar Galactica hallucination" way like I hoped

limaCAT
Dec 22, 2007

il pistone e male
Slippery Tilde
Joel lied Aeris died

limaCAT
Dec 22, 2007

il pistone e male
Slippery Tilde
There is an easter egg where you pass in front of a store called Red Ring Of Death Gaming and if you press F Joel says "They called the third xbox the xbox one"

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


In retrospect, "we're postponing the game indefinitely, oh by the way go home and continue to crunch with no end in sight" was probably not the best move by Naughty Dog.

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



Honestly, after they backstabbed Amy Hennig and completely buried that sexual harassment allegation, maybe they need to clean house at the top

Agent Escalus
Oct 5, 2002

"I couldn't stop saying aloud how miscast Jim Carrey was!"
I'm hoping the unmarked leak that I saw when it got posted elsewhere is fake, because if the plot/main enemy of the game is a "Christian" group who goes around murdering anyone they deem sinners because they blame them for the outbreak, then gently caress that garbage, doubly so if the part about Ellie's lover getting killed for being gay and they kill Joel too and it turns out Ellie's mom was a member as well is accurate.

Agent Escalus fucked around with this message at 10:28 on Apr 27, 2020

am0kgonzo
Jun 18, 2010
so they are doing the kill bill 3 thing, meh

also joel did nothing wrong

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

am0kgonzo posted:

so they are doing the kill bill 3 thing, meh

also joel did nothing wrong


100% agree let's swap numbers

The Lobotomy Kid
Aug 27, 2011

and act like a nut.
Joel is dead serious about going to Itchy and Scratchy Land

Barudak
May 7, 2007

I applaud the devs of a several hundred million dollar game for making a game whose narrative leaves players complicit in horrorific acts of personal cruelty without much, if anything, in the way of moral easement

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

To quote the 4Chan Leaks:




Thank god Last of Us 2 got cancelled.
:hmbol:

Grouchio fucked around with this message at 12:07 on Apr 27, 2020

Barudak
May 7, 2007

I want to congratulate Naughty Dog for being another company in a long list of media companies who cant get enough of Lesbians being murdered

Im curious how fast the leakers career is completely destroyed

Barudak fucked around with this message at 12:07 on Apr 27, 2020

Sassy Sasquatch
Feb 28, 2013

I'm reading up on Naughty Dog's workplace ethics, anyone else not feeling like buying the sequel on release despite loving the first game? (setting aside "game bad") I like their titles but I definitely don't feel like validating their lovely culture.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Barudak posted:

Im curious how fast the leakers career is completely destroyed

Most careers in programming are far more high-paying and less stressful than games if you have any talent at all, the people who bother to stay in the industry are already there out of passion.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

exquisite tea posted:

Most careers in programming are far more high-paying and less stressful than games if you have any talent at all, the people who bother to stay in the industry are already there out of passion.

Yeah but secret leaking is a thing that, I would assume, would be a black mark across all programming fields.

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

(leaks meme)

SirKibbles
Feb 27, 2011

I didn't like your old red text so here's some dancing cash. :10bux:

Barudak posted:

I want to congratulate Naughty Dog for being another company in a long list of media companies who cant get enough of Lesbians being murdered

Im curious how fast the leakers career is completely destroyed

I loving knew this was going to happen the moment they started really pushing Ellie's new relationship,which is why I was tepid about it

I kinda figured Joel was dying at some point because he wasn't showing up in too many cutscene trailers but killing Ellie off is GoT D&D level edgy bullshit

On the bright side my Bi rear end has finally looped around from the "god this poo poo sucks phase" to the "lol this sucks phase" in terms of bury your gays

I feel like I should stress that this is a game that did not need to be made and they lit in on fire for some weaksauce philosophy points

All those people,so happy when Ellie popped back up,the mountains of fanart,hell just Ellie existing as a character. gently caress that and gently caress you lesbians says Naughty Dog, at least other properties hard retconned that poo poo in their comic versions. How do you walk this back in TLOU? Like there are so many LBGTQ people that are just going to be crushed. Lol this sucks so much

SirKibbles fucked around with this message at 12:50 on Apr 27, 2020

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


I read the leaks on reddit and well, I can see why ND very much didn't want this to get spoiled. Whole lotta people are not gonna be down for this ride if they know what happens.

Bonaventure
Jun 23, 2005

by sebmojo
unbelievable that the game starts with a narrator saying, “in the not too distant future—next Sunday, A.D.—there was a guy named Joel, not too different from you or me”

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
i do not remotely care that ellie or joel died because everyone in that setting is basically a walking corpse anyway (lol aren't we all), but "evil christian cult crusading for heteronormativity" is bush-league bullshit for an apocalypse story

Barudak
May 7, 2007

SirKibbles posted:

I loving knew this was going to happen the moment they started really pushing Ellie's new relationship,which is why I was tepid about it

The second they showed happy lesbians I was like, oh, the only way this game can surprise me is if they both live and weeeeell

man nurse
Feb 18, 2014


Wow you mean to tell me the zombie game about bad people doing bad things has romantic elements and shocking death scenes? Well I never.

am0kgonzo
Jun 18, 2010
I've seen a cutscene from what looks like the ending/near the end, doesn't look like ellie dies imho

but that hardly matters because joels still dead and he did nothing wrong

Astrochicken
Aug 13, 2007

So you better go back to your bars, your temples
Your massage parlors!

Bonaventure posted:

unbelievable that the game starts with a narrator saying, “in the not too distant future—next Sunday, A.D.—there was a guy named Joel, not too different from you or me”

The Last of Us 2: The Dead Speak!

MeatwadIsGod
Sep 30, 2004

Foretold by Gyromancy

Oxxidation posted:

i do not remotely care that ellie or joel died because everyone in that setting is basically a walking corpse anyway (lol aren't we all), but "evil christian cult crusading for heteronormativity" is bush-league bullshit for an apocalypse story

When the earliest gameplay trailers showed off a murderous cult using Biblical phrases I was like "lol are they seriously doing this?"

SirKibbles
Feb 27, 2011

I didn't like your old red text so here's some dancing cash. :10bux:

Barudak posted:

The second they showed happy lesbians I was like, oh, the only way this game can surprise me is if they both live and weeeeell

My comrade in suffering ,I see your bullshit detector is strong


MeatwadIsGod posted:

When the earliest gameplay trailers showed off a murderous cult using Biblical phrases I was like "lol are they seriously doing this?"

There's interesting ways to go about that but mega crunch does produce the type of writing necessary to do so

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


The script was probably finalized at least 18 months ago, there are edits and rewrites like in any other medium but the bulk of video game work is done on art assets and not making the thing look like crap.

CharlestonJew
Jul 7, 2011

Illegal Hen
do the leaks say anything about the game being filled with torture porn because that one scene from the reveal where the cult lady broke that girl's arm went on waaaaayyyyyyy too long and was really offputting

am0kgonzo
Jun 18, 2010

CharlestonJew posted:

do the leaks say anything about the game being filled with torture porn because that one scene from the reveal where the cult lady broke that girl's arm went on waaaaayyyyyyy too long and was really offputting

there are at least 2 more scenes that are like that

DMorbid
Jan 6, 2011

Hello! I see you.


am0kgonzo posted:

there are at least 2 more scenes that are like that
Finally, games will be taken seriously as art :pseudo:

I looked up the spoilers on reddit, which you probably shouldn't do because holy gently caress were those comments a complete and utter cesspool. While the videos are obviously real, there also seemed to be quite a bit of broken telephone going on and it's hard to figure out how much of the information out there is actually true.

DMorbid fucked around with this message at 14:49 on Apr 27, 2020

Barudak
May 7, 2007

SirKibbles posted:

My comrade in suffering ,I see your bullshit detector is strong


There's interesting ways to go about that but mega crunch does produce the type of writing necessary to do so

The current argument is some people are saying its a fakeout of sorts and Ellie and her girlfriend both live but what I've seen of that cutscene is kind of stupid grisly so that may just be hopeful people

The above said lmao that a game thats trying to be about cycles of violence appears to have a pretty clear cut "the solution to cycles of violence is to kill everyone, absolutely goddamn everyone"

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

man nurse posted:

Wow you mean to tell me the zombie game about bad people doing bad things has romantic elements and shocking death scenes? Well I never.

Tropes are bad, especially in an industry where female lead protagonists are still incredibly rare. My gripes with the misanthropic setting aside, you can tell these stories without relying on lovely hack tropes to get some cheap drama.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Happy lesbian couples in mainstream media exist to die. Hell having a game where, present tense, both members of the lesbian couple are alive is actually somewhat cutting edge because usually one is already dead at story outset

3DBlast
Oct 9, 2012
Yeah I watched the fight cutscene and it ends with Ellie and Dinah alive but have had the absolute poo poo beat out of them.

Perfect Potato
Mar 4, 2009
I saw Brock Lesnar's terminator daughter singlehandedly destroy Ellie while throwing off her girlfriend, jamming an arrow into her side, bashing her face into the floor, and getting ready to slit her throat. Apparently Ellie says something like "but she pregnant doe" which gets her even more pumped up to rip and tear but her own Ellie circa tLoU1 expy says her name and gets her to stop and leave the two of them gurgling up blood in a presumably alive but very much humiliated state

cargohills
Apr 18, 2014

I really don't get the seemingly unanimous negative reactions to this. The story leaks seem absolutely fine.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

cargohills posted:

I really don't get the seemingly unanimous negative reactions to this. The story leaks seem absolutely fine.

Its a big budget title where you are the bad guy and gruesomely, personally, kill and undo the lives of the people you played as last time. Its close to the videogame equivalent of Funny Games in terms of how audiences will react to that

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cargohills
Apr 18, 2014

You tellin’ me that the sequel to the game that ends with you massacring an organisation which seems to be the only hope to stop the apocalypse.... has you play as a bad guy??

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