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Darchangel posted:Yeah, there is the issue that typical parking locations for watercraft tend to eat them if left alone. Great example: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suisun_Bay_Reserve_Fleet
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I've worked with a couple old warships/floating museums, and yeah, they struggle to keep the hulls from rusting through and maintaining a staff of docents as it is, costs to maintain the engineering plant on a working example would be ruinous. Especially if you have a bunch of geezers maintaining it and you blow a steam line, or god forbid a boiler. Some old warships still sail though.
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Elviscat posted:Your best bet would be to replace the steam plant with an Ultra Low Speed Diesel or two, steam plant requires at least a crew of 100+ to keep running and fired, even with oil boilers. I'll need people to help keep the thing running. I'll provide beer, someone bring the bailing wire. Applebees Appetizer posted:gently caress the Mustangs, I would have got a Corsair Mustangs killed a lot of people. Edsels, repulsed them.
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Elviscat posted:I've worked with a couple old warships/floating museums, and yeah, they struggle to keep the hulls from rusting through and maintaining a staff of docents as it is, costs to maintain the engineering plant on a working example would be ruinous. Indeed. The Battleship Texas has been fighting that fight for quite a while, to the point that they were or are investigating a way to dry dock it. I haven’t looked at the current status lately. Edit: if I were closer, I’d look into volunteering on her, but,alas, she’s 300 miles south of me.
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Darchangel posted:Indeed. The Battleship Texas has been fighting that fight for quite a while, to the point that they were or are investigating a way to dry dock it. I haven’t looked at the current status lately. poo poo, for a minute I thought you were talking about the one built in 1892, not BB 35..... Too bad carriers are pretty much kings of the sea, Battle ships were so fuckin sweet.
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 "Looks like gently caress but it passed inspection 20 years ago!" GnarlyCharlie4u fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Apr 29, 2020 |
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:
I've never seen a comma used in the year before.
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It's relevant to the battleship discussion because it looks like it has been stored in the ocean.
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tan gold. a/c not working but whatever, i'd throw a bunch of drum cases in this any day and this person seems like they'd take a reasonable offer https://santafe.craigslist.org/cto/d/santa-fe-1988-honda-civic-wagon-rt4wd/7115232152.html 
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Actual https://reno.craigslist.org/cto/d/sparks-2002-bmw-m3-6mt/7115655274.html 
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blk posted:Actual
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Nitrox posted:Don't they need new rod bearings around this mileage milestone? And then every bushing, fitting, and piece of plastic replaced? I've never owned one, but have seen plenty of frustrated owners The ad says it got rod bearings under a recall, and most of the major items have been done. You would probably want an oil analysis every year or so, but the rod bearings wear gradually and don't just break out of the blue. You'll usually see traces in the oil analysis first. I'd definitely want to run the VIN and check to see if it's a salvage title, since that is a real good price.
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Fornax Disaster posted:It's relevant to the battleship discussion because it looks like it has been stored in the ocean. And being a 70s domestic, its about 400 feet long.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:The ad says it got rod bearings under a recall, and most of the major items have been done. You would probably want an oil analysis every year or so, but the rod bearings wear gradually and don't just break out of the blue. You'll usually see traces in the oil analysis first.
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How is my post an apologia? it's a known issue, but this car appears to have it taken care of. if it hasn't, you should absolutely budget money for repairs. people talk about it like the engine is gonna fuckin grenade or whatever and you need to have the repair done ASAP - which isn't true, as long as you monitor it and then replace when you start seeing oil analysis results come back bad, you're fine. source: own E39 which has known rod bearing issues.
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Brolander posted:tan gold. a/c not working but whatever, i'd throw a bunch of drum cases in this any day and this person seems like they'd take a reasonable offer I love those Civics/Crx and have owned a few myself, but they are horribly unsafe cars. There was an accident near me years ago that involved a Civic of that year and a Bronco, and the Bronco literally drove right through it like it was made of tin foil. It took me awhile to even figure out what kind of car it was, and the two people inside of it were completely exposed and dead. After seeing that I would never drive one of those cars on the road again.
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Nitrox posted:it's great to see this kind of failures, normalized in BMW enthusiast community. I know quite a few people who are passionate about these cars, and the levels of Stockholm syndrome are amazing Were you around for the Nikasil days with the 530 and 540? Colostomy Bag fucked around with this message at 15:18 on Apr 29, 2020 |
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BMW Uber Alles people are loving terrible, I can agree with you on that for sure. like most decent companies BMW makes a product that is good at some things, but all products are fundamentally compromises!One of those compromises is that BMWs and in particular M cars are extraordinarily finnicky about maintenance and using the OEM specified consumables, so it's pretty common for people to get dunked on for like, say not using Castrol TWS or whatever for oil. Experience has shown that it's more trouble than it's worth to try to save a buck or two.
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Yeah, that. Some of my BMW fanatic friends are all grown up now, so they do cool poo poo like swapping LS engines into old 325s. Others recommend 330 over an M3, and the rest argue which crossover can fit the most strollers  Personally, I have a garage full of motorcycles, and stopped worrying about what passesfor performance in automotive world long time ago.
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Nitrox posted:
And you would be correct.
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blk posted:Actual 5 years into your bmw search why are you still making these posts when you said your divorce has cost you 200k
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Hey now Jag used Nikasil lined cylinders as well which had the same issues.
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BraveUlysses posted:5 years into your bmw search why are you still making these posts when you said your divorce has cost you 200k I’ve been earning hard - not back to where I was, but not destitute. I’m making 166% of what I was when the divorce started, although I am paying child support now. It’s time to let the Saabaru go. Not actively looking for BMWs but I’ve always been curious about the E46 M3 and this one caught my eye.
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wesleywillis posted:And being a 70s domestic, its about 400 feet long. Nah, that's an "intermediate". Only ~17' long. (source: I have a '70 Cutlass. Same chassis. 17'3") As opposed to 20-something feet for the full-sized cars of the time. Nitrox posted:KGJ, I wasn't referring to you in particular, I was talking about people I personally know. They insist on superiority of BMW products, while dismissing horrendously expensive issues as a matter of doing business. About on par with rotary apologists. Hey, at least with rotaries, we forgive the faults for it being such a unique thing. Or, I do, anyway. Most of us absolutely know #justrotarythings and laugh about it. blk posted:It’s time to let the Saabaru go. Not actively looking for BMWs but I’ve always been curious about the E46 M3 and this one caught my eye. Funny thing, but my brain automatically translated the bolded bit to "poo poo" momentarily, because that is literally the automatic substitution for the s-word on the Grassroots Motorsports forums. edit: hah, it's actually "E36 M3" on GRM. And "Berkeley" for "gently caress" for some reason. Darchangel fucked around with this message at 17:42 on May 1, 2020 |
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Darchangel posted:Funny thing, but my brain automatically translated the bolded bit to "poo poo" momentarily, because that is literally the automatic substitution for the s-word on the Grassroots Motorsports forums. Gently caress me, that's funny.
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blk posted:I’ve been earning hard - not back to where I was, but not destitute. I’m making 166% of what I was when the divorce started, although I am paying child support now. Literally nobody cares if you were divorced/whatever... It's nobody's business especially some stalking chucklefuck that comes out of the woodwork to criticize a post unless you are spamming or something.
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Applebees Appetizer posted:I love those Civics/Crx and have owned a few myself, but they are horribly unsafe cars. There was an accident near me years ago that involved a Civic of that year and a Bronco, and the Bronco literally drove right through it like it was made of tin foil. It took me awhile to even figure out what kind of car it was, and the two people inside of it were completely exposed and dead. After seeing that I would never drive one of those cars on the road again. That's small old cars in general - you wouldn't be any better off in a Miata or E30 or whatever.
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dissss posted:That's small old cars in general - you wouldn't be any better off in a Miata or E30 or whatever. Case in point   This was ~45mph impact from a Kia Rio, I walked away with only a cut on my hand from the window glass shattering but I was incredibly lucky
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dissss posted:That's small old cars in general - you wouldn't be any better off in a Miata or E30 or whatever. Yeah I get that but I've never seen a car come apart like this one did, so I guess it just freaked me out a bit. I've seen lots of accidents scenes, have been going to junkyards for years and have never seen anything like it. It was pretty similar to this 
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Anything old is deadly, especially that era F150s. They might stay in one piece but you inside will not.
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I ride a bike so horror pics of mangled cars have little effect on my desire to own any number of 80s cars.
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rscott posted:Case in point Applebees Appetizer posted:Yeah I get that but I've never seen a car come apart like this one did, so I guess it just freaked me out a bit.  I knew that anything from before the '00s aren't terribly safe but this triggered me. We've had two very serious car accidents in the family within my lifetime. The most recent (really about 25 years ago) involved my uncle getting hit head on by an ambulance of all things while he was driving his Windstar. The van was completely totaled and my uncle was seriously injured including a collapsed lung among other things but he did survive thankfully. Couldn't say the same thing about my mom, though. I can't remember the exact circumstances of the accident since I was a toddler at the time but I vividly remember the car getting struck from the side and then spinning out of control before coming to a violent stop. Oh yeah, my baby brother and I were along for the ride but thankfully well strapped in in child seats. A little while later I remember being pulled out of the wreckage by a cop/fireman/EMT and then seeing mom not looking very good.  drat. Over 30 years later and that poo poo still sticks with me and hits me hard. In short, poo poo like this is why automobile safety and crash ratings is an important metric for me and why I can't bring myself to get anything that much older than my new to me '05 Forester.
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Edward IV posted:Words Wow, those are two horrific experiences and good reason to value a safe car. One of the reasons that a safer and more modern, fun to drive and engaging light car like a Fiesta ST, BRZ, ND Miata, is kind of a miracle when you think about it.
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i own every Bionicle posted:Wow, those are two horrific experiences and good reason to value a safe car. Safer I guess but the Fiesta has a really poor 'real world' crash rating even for a small car - probably because they chassis is so old. There aren't enough MX-5 or 86s to come up with a rating.
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