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Inspector Gesicht posted:So it's like Cake in that it's a made-up drug? It's real enough. It probably shouldn't be blue and there's one key problem with the process that they don't address but it's the kind of thing you get from researching the concepts and then applying dramatic license.
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Torquemada posted:They could have made it totally realistic and showed you exactly how to make it, you’d still have the problem the characters in the show have. Precursor is hard to source in volume, and volume is what you need. No one is going to start an artisanal meth lab. I would bet money there are like 20 people in my state alone who have never heard of breaking bad and have already started artisanal meth labs or had a vague plan to do so
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Apr 29, 2020 14:35
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IIRC there was a dude in the Breaking Bad TVIV thread who claimed to know the creator of the "real" blue meth, and insisted it wasn't fictional. I forget how that little adventure ended.
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purple death ray posted:I would bet money there are like 20 people in my state alone who have never heard of breaking bad and have already started artisanal meth labs or had a vague plan to do so A little chili powder is my signature. 
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Big Mad Drongo posted:IIRC there was a dude in the Breaking Bad TVIV thread who claimed to know the creator of the "real" blue meth, and insisted it wasn't fictional. I forget how that little adventure ended. His dad came home from Nintendo and told him he couldn't tell anyone
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Apr 29, 2020 14:55
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locally sourced, small batch meth produced in our own kitchen. we support high quality processes and the slow meth movement
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Apr 29, 2020 14:56
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Can we make a general rule on the forums that when people start saying outlandish bullshit, we just let them keep going? Those people are always a good laugh.
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Apr 29, 2020 15:01
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P sure the showrunner intentionally had the actual producing and montages be as vague as possible while being beleavable enough close to real, they didn't want to make an accidental meth how-to.
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Apr 29, 2020 15:13
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Ghost Leviathan posted:It might as well be, from what I gather, and that's probably the best way to depict a drug a show centres around; if it's too accurate you might get the authorities on your back about how the show is teaching people to make drugs, and if it's too inaccurate you're gonna get fans mocking you, so a fictional drug or variant on a drug that you can make up the rules for gives you the most creative license. Weren't the questions that Walt grills Gale with real questions/criticisms that people had written in to the show about? I know he calls out how all the stereochemistry is a complete fantasy, which seems a fun way to acknowledge that's its just a show and you really should relax.
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Torquemada posted:They could have made it totally realistic and showed you exactly how to make it, you’d still have the problem the characters in the show have. Precursor is hard to source in volume, and volume is what you need. No one is going to start an artisanal meth lab. Funny thing is this line of thought also makes you realise why alcohol prohibition failed so badly; alcohol is ludicrously easy to make with perfectly legal ingredients and equipment you can get anywhere. It's all about the logistics. Fictional drugs can also be a lot of fun. Batman Beyond if anything was a bit too War on Drugs about things like Splicers, but you know how people are about transhumanism. Which is especially funny given how many DCAU episodes revolve around animal-transformation serums, it's no wonder they eventually figured out how to mass-produce them recreationally. And then there was the one where the steroid used for sports turned out to be a derivative of Venom, and also showed the long-term effects of a drug that triples the size of your muscles. Ghost Leviathan has a new favorite as of 15:35 on Apr 29, 2020 |
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Apr 29, 2020 15:33
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Yeah the DCAU has aged poorly on a technical level, but the writing there was solid-- there's a big buildup to meeting Old Bane, but it turns out that years on super-steroids has turned him into a withered husk of a man unable to function independently and it doesn't come across as preachy, just really matter-of-fact. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BLe5aXwBaY
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Has Animorphaline from Dragon Ball come up before? Feels like it has. The show and other media doesn't go super into detail but it seems like it has existed for a long time and was heavily marketed at one point like an over the counter, no prescription needed type thing when a pharmaceutical company patented it or something.
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Batman Beyond was so shockingly bleak, especially in the first season. Just total dystopia and the heroes almost entirely helpless to do any good beyond maybe saving a specific person. It made me feel gross to watch as a kid.
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I was lucky enough to see a DCAU panel with Bruce Timm and other key people behind JLU the year after it ended at San Diego Comic Con, and they had a deep laugh about Batman Beyond. "Yeah the network came to us because they wanted something they could pitch to younger kids [e.g: "Teen Batman"] and we wound up giving them the darkest poo poo we ever made."
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luxury handset posted:locally sourced, small batch meth produced in our own kitchen. we support high quality processes and the slow meth movement Old hat my man, here in Hackney we’d have zero-waste unfiltered meth with no sulfites served in upcycled jam jars and delivered to you on a carbon-negative tricycle. This is interchangeable with Portland.
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Big Mad Drongo posted:IIRC there was a dude in the Breaking Bad TVIV thread who claimed to know the creator of the "real" blue meth, and insisted it wasn't fictional. I forget how that little adventure ended. So it's to real drugs as red mercury is to nuclear weapons?
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MariusLecter posted:Has Animorphaline from Dragon Ball come up before? Feels like it has. Nothing goes into detail about it because it was created for a video game released earlier this year to explain why there are animal people around. The manga never needed to explain it, Dragon Ball's Earth is just a weird place where there are animal people.
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Big Mad Drongo posted:IIRC there was a dude in the Breaking Bad TVIV thread who claimed to know the creator of the "real" blue meth, and insisted it wasn't fictional. I forget how that little adventure ended. Escape artist was the username, I think. He had a Brother Mouzone av, that I remember. He came back a while ago and talked about everything that got him to spin dumb tales. Antifa Turkeesian posted:Batman Beyond was so shockingly bleak, especially in the first season. Just total dystopia and the heroes almost entirely helpless to do any good beyond maybe saving a specific person. It made me feel gross to watch as a kid. It was brutal about aging, and that real fact that one day you just won’t be able to do what you used to.
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I loved the first episode of Batman Beyond where Bruce tries a case as Batman, thinking he's still up to it. He realises he's got too old when he gets beaten half to death and is forced to grab a gun on reflex to save himself, scaring the last thug off but also scaring himself that he needed to stoop to that.
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BioEnchanted posted:I loved the first episode of Batman Beyond where Bruce tries a case as Batman, thinking he's still up to it. He realises he's got too old when he gets beaten half to death and is forced to grab a gun on reflex to save himself, scaring the last thug off but also scaring himself that he needed to stoop to that. There’s also that episode where he throws on a suit of power armor to bail Terry out and nearly has a heart attack.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:It was brutal about aging, and that real fact that one day you just won’t be able to do what you used to. Batman Beyond was all about that body horror:
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Terry and Bruce always seemed so vulnerable, like the villains could just do whatever they wanted to them. I particularly remember one scene of Bruce ending up on a psych ward hearing voices and screaming back at them and feeling that the show lacked whatever sense of security kids' shows usually deliver where the heroes have a safe location that they can retreat to or a neutral position they can occupy regardless of the events of the episode. There was also an episode where Terry's guidance counselor used his authority over him to brainwash him that carried a similar sense of boundary violation and powerlessness to institutional forces. It just seemed extremely stark to me compared to the other Batman cartoons or the Superman show, that characters were never safe and had no choice but to submit to corrupt authority. That's a good lesson for kids, I guess. EDIT: good call on the body horror
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That all sounds pretty horrific/rad. Anywhere you can watch it these days? Not like I have anything else to do.
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All three seasons are on DC Universe.mind the walrus posted:Batman Beyond was all about that body horror: And of course, what happened to that guy at the end of the episode.
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If you're US your best bet is to do a free trial for the DC Universe streaming site. Yes they really think people care so much about DC superhero content that they'll pay subscription money to watch it regularly. Check out Doom Patrol while you're there. It's got Timothy Dalton, Alan Tudyk, Matt Bohmer and Fat Brendan Fraser (and Fraser's still got it). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tTM9nbRk5A
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Roblo posted:That all sounds pretty horrific/rad. Anywhere you can watch it these days? Not like I have anything else to do. It was on prime as of a few months ago and will be on that Warner/HBO service that's replacing HBO Now next month.
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There’s a Batman beyond comic (maybe an episode?) where some villain sends out a brainwashing signal to bring out Batman to fight him. Doesn’t work on terry because he still doesn’t really think of himself as Batman, but it brings out Bruce who comes out all dark knight returns style and kicks Terry’s rear end. It was fun. edit: looks like it was the first issue: 
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A lot of Beyond's bad guys felt like a real threat because Terry was just a teenager. (In power armor with Batman feeding him lines with an in-helmet Nextel.) Regularly got in over his head, jobbed a bit as a result. His wins often weren't as "clean" as Bruce's had been, with a lot of dead antagonists that non-Future Batman probably would've been able to leave hanging upside-down from a lamppost outside a police station. Part of that is you can't arrest a guy who just really wants to die and can wall himself up in an exploding building, or is coming apart at the seams because of GATTACA, or is just a sci-fi murderbeast, but also inexperience. As the series went on he was out of his element slightly less often.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:It's real enough. It probably shouldn't be blue and there's one key problem with the process That was almost certainly done on purpose for the same reason that the napalm recipe in Fight Club was deliberately wrong.
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Promoted Pawn posted:That was almost certainly done on purpose for the same reason that the napalm recipe in Fight Club was deliberately wrong. The mustachioed Mythbuster used to angrily point out whenever they had to censor or leave out steps in making something flammable because the legal advisor told them it was a liability.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Terry and Bruce always seemed so vulnerable, like the villains could just do whatever they wanted to them. I particularly remember one scene of Bruce ending up on a psych ward hearing voices and screaming back at them and feeling that the show lacked whatever sense of security kids' shows usually deliver where the heroes have a safe location that they can retreat to or a neutral position they can occupy regardless of the events of the episode. There was also an episode where Terry's guidance counselor used his authority over him to brainwash him that carried a similar sense of boundary violation and powerlessness to institutional forces. It just seemed extremely stark to me compared to the other Batman cartoons or the Superman show, that characters were never safe and had no choice but to submit to corrupt authority. That's a good lesson for kids, I guess. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t7yiN_Z5eg which goes well with Ambitious Spider posted:There’s a Batman beyond comic (maybe an episode?) where some villain sends out a brainwashing signal to bring out Batman to fight him. Doesn’t work on terry because he still doesn’t really think of himself as Batman, but it brings out Bruce who comes out all dark knight returns style and kicks Terry’s rear end. It was fun. Batman beyond was easily one of my favorite cartoons as a kid, and I ended up buying the DVD set.
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Doom Patrol is loving rad. They gave us Danny the Street.
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Bruce as Batman didn't kill. Terry as Batman didn't actively kill, but he sure as poo poo doesn't save you either.
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Also Bruce!Batman beat villains by escaping their games. Terry beat Joker by playing it harder, and out-psyching him. Joker: What do you think you're doing? Terry: Fighting dirty... Joker: The real Batman would never... Terry: I'm not the real batman, remember? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx7CdrjGFZo Just a great scene in general. I also love his general taunts, like "So you fell in a vat of acid, got your skin bleached and decided to become a supervillain! What? You couldn't get a job as a rodeo clown?!" and "Joy buzzers? Squirting flowers? LAME! Where's the A material? Make a face, drop your pants, SOMETHING!"
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Zedd posted:Bruce as Batman didn't kill. Those guys he threw into piles of drugs probably died but they were jerks and they didn't pronounce on-screen.
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BioEnchanted posted:Also Bruce!Batman beat villains by escaping their games. Terry beat Joker by playing it harder, and out-psyching him. BB was "what if Spider-Man was Batman" and it's a good show
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Groke posted:Doom Patrol is loving rad. They gave us Danny the Street. purple death ray posted:BB was "what if Spider-Man was Batman" and it's a good show They even managed to pull off the "Terry was secretly Bruce's genetic son this entire time" twist on a dramatic level. That shouldn't even be loving possible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pvz2hqPIQT8 Bonus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PETk8eBbfN0 The JLU time travel episode where they went to the future and even found time to give a capoff to Static Shock was also quite cute. Kevin Conroy is too goddamn good at voice acting.
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Doom Patrol is too good to last forever. It deserves a beginning, a middle and an end where it does something great that not a lot of media is doing. Imagine Doom Patrol but it's on season 30 just like the Simpsons. Not worth it.
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BioEnchanted posted:Also Bruce!Batman beat villains by escaping their games. Terry beat Joker by playing it harder, and out-psyching him. Why is Bruce Wayne old but joker isn’t?
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oldpainless posted:Why is Bruce Wayne old but joker isn’t? IIRC that Joker is actually a brainwashed Tim Drake (a.k.a. Robin).
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