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So to get the 2nd Elemental materia I need to do all the quests in Chapter 14 right? Ugh. I missed it the first time around so now I have to do it again through Chapter select.
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Apr 30, 2020 03:03
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If you do it on Hard Mode at least you get a bunch of manuscripts?
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Apr 30, 2020 03:04
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Yeah that’s true. Maybe I’ll just wait until Chapter 14 on Hard mode. If I feel I need a 2nd Elemental materia during the playthrough then I’ll go do them quickly on Normal or something.
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Apr 30, 2020 03:37
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RatHat posted:Since you’re on Hard I assume spoilers are allowed? Indeed. Going to start with overall impressions, get into some highlights and downsides, then go into spoiler discussion about the ending stuff, and probably cap it out with ideas for the future.
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Apr 30, 2020 03:38
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So I'm trying to get all the dresses for the trophy and I THINK I understand everything. So first time around I got Tifa's sporty dress, Aerith's best dress for doing all the quests in Chapter 8, and Cloud's white dress for doing the Madam M questline. So for getting the other dresses I'll do 2 runs: - First one I'll do all of the quests in Chapter 3 and tell Tifa I want her dress to be "exotic", then finish chapter 3. Then I'll jump to chapter 8 and do all but one quest for Aerith's 2nd best dress. Then do the Chocobo Sam questline in Chapter 9 for Cloud's black and blue dress. - Second run I'll no quests in Chapter 3, 8, and 9, and I should get Tifa's mature dress, Aerith's worst dress, and Cloud's black dress. This is all correct right?
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Apr 30, 2020 04:02
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RatHat posted:So I'm trying to get all the dresses for the trophy and I THINK I understand everything. You only need to do half of chapter 8's sidequests to get Aerith's 2nd best dress to save you some time, but yes, you're on point
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Apr 30, 2020 04:11
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RatHat posted:So I'm trying to get all the dresses for the trophy and I THINK I understand everything. FRom IGN: These are the side quests needed to unlock Aerith's dresses: Light pink dress: 0-2 chapter 8 side quests Pink halter dress: 3-4 chapter 8 side quests Red gown: 5 (or all) chapter 8 side quests Dunno what "all" means there but I guess maybe there's six side quests, don't really know.
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Apr 30, 2020 04:12
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I didn’t know you needed to do some (or all?) the side quests in chapters 3 and 9 on hard to get all of the manuscripts. Kinda ruins the plan I had for getting the nine dresses and all the manuscripts, which was to get the second set (Tifa’s exotic, Aerith’s second-best and Cloud’s Chocobo Sam quest one) on normal and then playing through again on hard to get the third ones. But I guess you have to play ch 9 on hard twice to get all the manuscripts... I understand why people hate that trophy.
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Apr 30, 2020 04:15
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Geez, has anyone gotten the Biker boy trophy on Normal or Hard? Apparently you need 80%+ health at the end(and no retries) to get it. I thought I played near perfect on Normal but with all the chip damage through block I was still at ~60%.
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Apr 30, 2020 05:54
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RatHat posted:So I'm trying to get all the dresses for the trophy and I THINK I understand everything. I'm in the exact same boat as you- is there any way to know which quests in Chapter 8 give manuscripts, so I can focus on those?
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Apr 30, 2020 06:20
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Schwartzcough posted:I'm in the exact same boat as you- is there any way to know which quests in Chapter 8 give manuscripts, so I can focus on those? all of them except the box breaking minigame. you might also just be able to kill the monsters and not finish the quest since the monsters are what actually give the manuscripts but i didnt try that
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Apr 30, 2020 06:33
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to be clear the moogle kid quest doesnt give you a manuscript but theres no way around clearing it to get the graveyard key which is necessary for another quest
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Apr 30, 2020 06:34
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sharrrk posted:all of them except the box breaking minigame. you might also just be able to kill the monsters and not finish the quest since the monsters are what actually give the manuscripts but i didnt try that This is how I did it
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Apr 30, 2020 06:34
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Today I saw a very exciting house.
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Apr 30, 2020 07:31
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It is a bit feisty.
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Apr 30, 2020 07:45
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The interior is to die for.
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Apr 30, 2020 07:56
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RatHat posted:Geez, has anyone gotten the Biker boy trophy on Normal or Hard? Apparently you need 80%+ health at the end(and no retries) to get it. I thought I played near perfect on Normal but with all the chip damage through block I was still at ~60%. I did it on normal (on a replay, not first time  ), didn't take very much damage at all until Roche showed up. Normal bike grunts are easy enough to kill before they can do much of anything, and the ones that drop grenades are super easy to avoid. I remember getting hit a lot trying to go ham on the drones, so don't do that. Hit 'em with your ranged attack when available, if you see one locked onto you just move to the side to avoid the shots, and when you get close enough to melee one they pretty much always react with the emp attack so just bait it out then kick their rear end. A lot of Roche's stuff is avoidable, but you'll still want to keep your guard up while trying to dodge unless you specifically need to brake or speed up. Thunder seems to me to be the hardest thing to completely avoid, but I still managed to pull it out guarding quite a few of them. Your windows for damage are going to be whenever you have a ranged attack charged, when he comes in to either melee you or the other bike (if it's you, trading blows is not ideal; use the spin attack if you have it or hit-and-run), or when he tries to pin you against a wall and follow with a heavy attack. If he does go for the pin, hit the brakes and pull up on the other side while he's locked into the attack to get a couple hits in. Do your best to take as little damage as possible before Roche then play safe when he does show up and you should be good.I'm not gonna claim it's impossible on hard but when I tried it the other bike went down and then I died during the boss. I thought I had a better idea of what to expect but that poo poo was brutal, and Wedge's bike takes so much damage.
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Apr 30, 2020 08:00
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Has anyone figured out if the mystery drink before the tournament does anything? Is it just a relationship point with Aerith or something?
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Apr 30, 2020 08:09
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RatHat posted:Has anyone figured out if the mystery drink before the tournament does anything? Is it just a relationship point with Aerith or something? Whether or not you drank it will be the only thing that matters in the save transfers. This will be the deciding factor on whether or not Aerith dies this time around.
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Apr 30, 2020 08:18
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You can get Biker Boy on Classic and the trophy will still pop
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Apr 30, 2020 08:45
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The full ultimania interview with Nomura, Kitase and Nojima has been finished, linked here https://aitaikimochi.tumblr.com/post/616804865416527872
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Apr 30, 2020 08:59
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So in The Party Never Sleeps quest in Chapter 9 you need to use Assess to get something from a vending machine and supposedly your success depends on how many enemies you’ve scanned? Anyone know how it works if you’ve never used Assess?
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Apr 30, 2020 09:25
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RatHat posted:So in The Party Never Sleeps quest in Chapter 9 you need to use Assess to get something from a vending machine and supposedly your success depends on how many enemies you’ve scanned? Anyone know how it works if you’ve never used Assess? You don't get any of the bonus items, which means you don't get an extra reward at the end of the quest.
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Apr 30, 2020 09:26
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Oh man, I just realized that I never got that Chocobo Chick materia from pre-ordering the game? I definitely downloaded the DLC item
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Apr 30, 2020 10:05
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Oh man, I just realized that I never got that Chocobo Chick materia from pre-ordering the game? I definitely downloaded the DLC item yeah i got the cactuar materia from the deluxe edition but didn't figure out how to activate it until i was literally at the menu screen right after finishing the game. there's a 'dlc' menu option and you essentially have to go in there and click it. whoops.
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Apr 30, 2020 10:09
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:I didn’t know you needed to do some (or all?) the side quests in chapters 3 and 9 on hard to get all of the manuscripts. Kinda ruins the plan I had for getting the nine dresses and all the manuscripts, which was to get the second set (Tifa’s exotic, Aerith’s second-best and Cloud’s Chocobo Sam quest one) on normal and then playing through again on hard to get the third ones. But I guess you have to play ch 9 on hard twice to get all the manuscripts... I understand why people hate that trophy. I actually tried to get Aeriths middle dress while also doing hard mode for manuscripts. You can get the manuscripts from chapter 8 hard mode sidequests without actually finishing the quest. You do need to complete a few quests to unlock later ones but its doable.
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Apr 30, 2020 11:33
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Oh man, I just realized that I never got that Chocobo Chick materia from pre-ordering the game? I definitely downloaded the DLC item When you're in the game menu, go to System>DLC to get all your stuff. And yeah, count me as part of Team Didn't Figure That Out Until Beating The Game.
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Apr 30, 2020 11:40
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Vanrushal posted:I did it on normal (on a replay, not first time Hard does seem to give you more leeway. I ran it once just to see it, and I got the middle "you passed but barely" result when I ended at like 40% HP which would have been a fail on Normal or Easy. NGL I picked up that trophy on Easy because I got sick of trying to do it on Normal. The only time I have had to lower the difficulty. 
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Apr 30, 2020 15:02
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I unashamedly went to easy to kick Bahamut in the teeth because gently caress that. I can always do the vr mission again later. (I won't).
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Dress-mechanics question: I complete all of chapter 3 and pick the sporty dress. I go back to re-complete chapter 2 because I realise I forgot to Assess the Huntsman at the end. Chapter 2 is done, chapter 3 re-loads the start. Is my chapter 3 dress choice still locked in and I can skip back ahead to chapter 4?
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Apr 30, 2020 15:14
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Dreylad posted:I need to try out Tifa with feather gloves, Refocus, and the Transference Module. Seems like it'd be hilarious. I can confirm that this is a really great way to jack up the stagger damage bonus through the roof
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Apr 30, 2020 15:24
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Staggering an enemy and then watching everything disappear behind Tifa’s damage numbers is really satisfying.
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Apr 30, 2020 15:27
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Tifa is just absurdly fun to play. They really really sold the idea that she will punch you twenty times in the nuts before you can even react.
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Apr 30, 2020 16:20
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She's also the only character where dodge rolling is totally viable, because hers is fast enough to go around most kinds of long range beams. Like off the top of my head, no one else can reasonably dodge Cutter's wind blades once he gets going. Tifa can.
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ImpAtom posted:Tifa is just absurdly fun to play. They really really sold the idea that she will punch you twenty times in the nuts before you can even react. this is partially the reason this battle system didn't gel with me. people say the reason the non controlled characters don't generate ATB quickly is so you switch often. but i don't wanna switch. i wanna play tifa.
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Apr 30, 2020 17:01
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Woofer posted:Staggering an enemy and then watching everything disappear behind Tifa’s damage numbers is really satisfying. You tell no lie here. Having Tifa go to town on a staggered enemy is like the Monsoon coming down on Sugar Mountain.
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Apr 30, 2020 17:08
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Adus posted:this is partially the reason this battle system didn't gel with me. people say the reason the non controlled characters don't generate ATB quickly is so you switch often. but i don't wanna switch. i wanna play tifa. I suppose what worked for me is that I found each character fun to play. Tifa was the most fun but even Aerith (who I think is the weakest of the lot) still lets me doublecast fireblasts followed by a giant death laser.
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Finally beat the game, and I hear there's some disagreement on the ending, so apologies if I'm treading old ground here: I have no idea what they were going for with the endgame. They need the finale to feel like it matters, so they go completely overboard in teasing future events with the ghosts, but they can't elaborate on any of it without ruining the entire story, so they don't. And I guess the ghosts are largely done with as a plot device, since we learn what their deal is through the power of plot convenience, plus they beat the Arbiter anyway, unless there's an even bigger ghost to beat next time, which would be pretty awful. And the changes in the story either don't make any real difference to anything, or are just straight-up bizarre. You get to save Wedge, but then the ghosts kill him anyway after he does absolutely nothing of note, but then Biggs survives anyway, meaning either a) the ghosts are still a force to be reckoned with and should have made sure he was dead if they decided that Wedge was important enough to make dead or b) they aren't, in which case see all of my griping about their presence in the story in the first place. I mean... why? Why any of this? As for Sephiroth, we're still told he's a threat by the time they leave Midgar, but instead of the original's solution of Cloud saying "this is really important, but I can't explain it right now, let's just get out of here", the finale is just this orgy of loud, meaningless nonsense, absolutely desperate to give you a big ending that ties into the wider story without explaining a single thing because they literally can't, and I have no idea how anyone who didn't play the original is meant to make any sense of it whatsoever. Hell of a game overall, and I'm still extremely psyched for the next part, but I could barely have bounced harder off the finale if I tried. They tried for something, and I didn't think they hit it at all, but it was very pretty I guess. e: I just remembered that there's a spoiler thread, so I can take this there instead if needs be. Doctor_Fruitbat fucked around with this message at 17:17 on Apr 30, 2020 |
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quote:Aerith (who I think is the weakest of the lot) cast charged tempest more 
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Finally beat the game, and I hear there's some disagreement on the ending, so apologies if I'm treading old ground here: I have no idea what they were going for with the endgame. They need the finale to feel like it matters, so they go completely overboard in teasing future events with the ghosts, but they can't elaborate on any of it without ruining the entire story, so they don't. And I guess the ghosts are largely done with as a plot device, since we learn what their deal is through the power of plot convenience, plus they beat the Arbiter anyway, unless there's an even bigger ghost to beat next time, which would be pretty awful. And the changes in the story either don't make any real difference to anything, or are just straight-up bizarre. You get to save Wedge, but then the ghosts kill him anyway after he does absolutely nothing of note, o who the hell cares if he lives or dies, but then Biggs survives anyway, meaning either a) the ghosts are still a force to be reckoned with and should have made sure he was dead if if they decided that Wedge was so loving important or b) they aren't, in which case see all of my griping about their presence in the story in the first place. I mean... why? Why any of this? Long story short: The ending's point is "We are no longer protected by being a remake, so characters who previously lived are not assured to and characters who died (Aerith) are also not assured to." The entire premise of the ghosts is that they are making sure FF7's plot happens exactly like it did in the original with no deviations. With them destroyed things may go differently. It's basically like how the Star Trek reboot made an explanation for why everything was different via time travel.
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