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Resting Lich Face
Feb 21, 2019


This case of an intraperitoneal zucchini is unusual, and does raise questions as to how hard one has to push a blunt vegetable to perforate the rectum.

LeninVS posted:

1) my cat Cora seems to have developed a small black spot on her bottom gums, and a small black spot on the roof of her mouth.
Should I be concerned about this?

Some cats get freckles as they age. Depends on their genetics. Some freckles showing up at 5 years is not likely to be anything to worry about. Gums, mouth, nose, and eyelids are where you usually see them.

Resting Lich Face fucked around with this message at 07:04 on Apr 30, 2020

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TMMadman
Sep 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Snowy posted:

Are longhaired wild cats covered in dreads or do they figure something out that lazy housecats don’t?

Some of it depends on the cat and conditions. A lot of them will have matted spots on their belly and legs because those are obviously the places most likely to get wet and stick together. But they are also easier spots to clean for a cat, so cats that like to groom willl try to keep it clean. Upper back/head/neck mats are much harder for a cat to groom so they tend to stick around longer.

Dixville
Nov 4, 2008

I don't think!
Ham Wrangler

Leal posted:



My dude's been leaving the backyard and picking fights with other cats, its making me worried. Wish he would stay in my backyard with this cozy patio he likes to nap on.

Nooo don't get FIV lil kitty! Is he neutered? If not sometimes thst will help



LeninVS posted:

I have two questions about my cat. She is about 5 years old.

1) my cat Cora seems to have developed a small black spot on her bottom gums, and a small black spot on the roof of her mouth.
Should I be concerned about this?

2) I believe since we got her a couple years ago, she would once in a while rub her face on something and this would cause her to make a grinding and smacking noise for a second or two after.

I mentioned it to the vet and he wasn't able to figure out what was happening or why. But didn't seem concerned.

Recently I have noticed she is doing it alot more often. It seems like every time she rubs her face on things.
She doesn't seem distressed or in pain.

Should I bring her to a different vet?

Is she orange? Orange cats get black spots a lot as they age. Other color cats can get them too. It's called lentigo.

The grinding/smacking could just be an individual quirk. My cat drools sometimes when he's content and he makes a lot of weird groany noises when he's relaxed and I used to think there was something wrong with him but he's fine. The only other thing I can think of is dental issues and that can be hard to assess fully while they are totally awake. A dental assessment and cleaning under anesthesia might make sense to do. Other than that I'd just keep an eye on it.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009

Dixville posted:

Nooo don't get FIV lil kitty! Is he neutered? If not sometimes thst will help


This is my fault, but he isn't yet. I've held it off cause "oh my vacation is coming, I can get it done then when I got a full week to come in whenever"


And then Covid 19 happened. My city has a strict lockdown after a local clinic had its entire staff test positive and possibly infected 450 people. Waiting for the lockdown to end both to get my cat some much needed C&BT and so I can stop wearing these loving masks at work.

LeninVS
Nov 8, 2011

Dixville posted:

Nooo don't get FIV lil kitty! Is he neutered? If not sometimes thst will help


Is she orange? Orange cats get black spots a lot as they age. Other color cats can get them too. It's called lentigo.

The grinding/smacking could just be an individual quirk. My cat drools sometimes when he's content and he makes a lot of weird groany noises when he's relaxed and I used to think there was something wrong with him but he's fine. The only other thing I can think of is dental issues and that can be hard to assess fully while they are totally awake. A dental assessment and cleaning under anesthesia might make sense to do. Other than that I'd just keep an eye on it.

Cora is a black cat with one small white spot on her chest/neck.

The vet I brought her to put her under anesthesia and wasn't able to find any issues.

Dixville
Nov 4, 2008

I don't think!
Ham Wrangler

LeninVS posted:

Cora is a black cat with one small white spot on her chest/neck.

The vet I brought her to put her under anesthesia and wasn't able to find any issues.

I would keep an eye on the black spots and make sure they aren't growing or looking irritated. Probably it's just a change with age.

If they didn't see anything under anesthesia it may be nothing, but the fact that it's getting more frequent is a bit concerning. You could potentially take her to a dental specialist to get a second opinion. Some dental problems can be really subtle. If she didn't get dental xrays that would be another thing to consider that a dental specialist would have expertise in.

5MinuteButtermilk
Mar 5, 2014
I think this might be a dumb question but what tools do you need for grooming a long-haired cat? I have a comb and a slicker brush, and I'm probably going to get a furminator. Is that it? There seem to be a lot of different brush types, and to be honest I'm sort of lost as to what is actually necessary and what isn't.

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.
I know it says 'Small dog' but it's the best thing we've found for our cat: https://www.animates.co.nz/shear-magic-slicker-brush-for-small-dogs.html

We also have one of those fine metal flea combs but she absolutely hates that so we only use it if she's scratching

InvisibleMonkey
Jun 4, 2004


Hey, girl.
My cat looooves those cheap silicone brushing gloves to the point we're on our second one after a year, she will climb on you and demand a massage when you get it out. I get out the wire slicker every couple of months and use the furminator maybe once per year in spring to help her shed, but she loves that glove so much that we just keep using that 1-3 times a week.

She also gets half a teaspoon of salmon oil mixed in her food every day, which I feel helps her floof. She looks so skinny without her winter-coat right now.

Tamarillo
Aug 6, 2009
We just use a slicker brush and undercoat comb on my ragdoll - often just the latter. We have a furminator as well but he doesn't like it, and it probably gets used maybe once a year when he sheds his winter coat.

edit:

dissss posted:

I know it says 'Small dog' but it's the best thing we've found for our cat: https://www.animates.co.nz/shear-magic-slicker-brush-for-small-dogs.html
Haha that's the same one we use too, bought from the same place.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
I don’t know how to get my two assholes to coexist peacefully. I did the introduction thing in the second post but it’s not working. Ruthie is hyper and always tries to run towards Molly when she comes into the room—I don’t think Ruthie is being aggressive but nonetheless Molly takes it that way and runs off. I think Ruthie just wants a friend. Molly never tries to go towards Ruthie and just ignores her for the most part. I can play with them together but they do not interact with each other. When it’s snack time I get both of them together and give them snacks at the same time. They are ok with it. (Feeding them real food together is impossible because Ruthie eats really fast and Molly eats really slow. Ruthie will absolutely push Molly away and eat her food if I let her.) When they finish eating the treats they both just sit up and look at me ignoring each other. Whenever I bring Ruthie or she follows me into the same room with Molly they coexist, but whenever Molly goes into the room with Ruthie, Ruthie runs towards her and scares Molly away. They have never fought and haven’t growled at each other since the beginning. Molly hisses sometimes but they have never swatted at each other from what I’ve seen.

I’m really losing my patience here because I’m sick and tired of having to spend twice as much time in two separate rooms playing with the both of them separately and feeding them separately since they can’t eat together.

What the hell do I do? I am seriously considering moving both litter boxes and scratching posts into my bedroom and locking them both in there until Stockholm syndrome sets in. I know it’s not recommended to let cats “work it out” but they aren’t fighting so it should be ok?

I understand they might never be bffs but right now Molly avoids Ruthie and Ruthie is always near me so that means Molly avoids me as well. I can’t play with her unless she’s in my bedroom and I close the door behind me.

Boris Galerkin fucked around with this message at 19:32 on May 1, 2020

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

Boris Galerkin posted:

I don’t know how to get my two assholes to coexist peacefully. I did the introduction thing in the second post but it’s not working. Ruthie is hyper and always tries to run towards Molly when she comes into the room—I don’t think Ruthie is being aggressive but nonetheless Molly takes it that way and runs off. I think Ruthie just wants a friend. Molly never tries to go towards Ruthie and just ignores her for the most part. I can play with them together but they do not interact with each other. When it’s snack time I get both of them together and give them snacks at the same time. They are ok with it. (Feeding them real food together is impossible because Ruthie eats really fast and Molly eats really slow. Ruthie will absolutely push Molly away and eat her food if I let her.) When they finish eating the treats they both just sit up and look at me ignoring each other. Whenever I bring Ruthie or she follows me into the same room with Molly they coexist, but whenever Molly goes into the room with Ruthie, Ruthie runs towards her and scares Molly away. They have never fought and haven’t growled at each other since the beginning. Molly hisses sometimes but they have never swatted at each other from what I’ve seen.

I’m really losing my patience here because I’m sick and tired of having to spend twice as much time in two separate rooms playing with the both of them separately and feeding them separately since they can’t eat together.

What the hell do I do? I am seriously considering moving both litter boxes and scratching posts into my bedroom and locking them both in there until Stockholm syndrome sets in. I know it’s not recommended to let cats “work it out” but they aren’t fighting so it should be ok?
That all sounds like completely normal cat behavior. What are you expecting?

Cats rarely bond as snuggle buddies and you can't make them if they don't want to.

We free feed our cats dry food so they can eat as much or as little as they want whenever they feel like it.

Canned food is a treat. They get about a tablespoon each around 9 PM, and they are always ready for it long beforehand. Each cat has its own place for its food, and I will enforce the others staying away until the owner of the spot leaves or has had its fill. Then it's fair game for anyone. They have learned this is the way it is and each waits at its own spot for the food. Often cats A and B will simply swap places - A wanders off from her food, so B dashes in to get the leftovers. A then runs over and eats what's left of B's. It's all just cats being cats.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

Deteriorata posted:

That all sounds like completely normal cat behavior. What are you expecting?

Cats rarely bond as snuggle buddies and you can't make them if they don't want to.

We free feed our cats dry food so they can eat as much or as little as they want whenever they feel like it.

Canned food is a treat. They get about a tablespoon each around 9 PM, and they are always ready for it long beforehand. Each cat has its own place for its food, and I will enforce the others staying away until the owner of the spot leaves or has had its fill. Then it's fair game for anyone. They have learned this is the way it is and each waits at its own spot for the food. Often cats A and B will simply swap places - A wanders off from her food, so B dashes in to get the leftovers. A then runs over and eats what's left of B's. It's all just cats being cats.

I edited my post with one more sentence. Basically since Ruthie always runs towards Molly, Molly has started avoiding Ruthie. Ruthie is always in the same room as me (her choice), and I’m usually in the living room, so this means Molly doesn’t go into the living room and it means she avoids me as well indirectly. I can’t play with Molly unless I go into my bedroom and close the door behind me and I’m sick and tired of spending so much time in my bedroom awake.

I don’t care if they don’t snuggle together anymore. I just want them to share the same space.

Edit: Also, Ruthie has gotten really comfortable with me and started sleeping in my bed with me sometimes. Whenever she comes in the room, if I’m not holding a toy or snacks in my hands then Molly just stays hidden in her cave. I don’t want to make Ruthie not be able to sleep with me but I also don’t want Molly to hide in her cave all night long. I’ve tried swapping their space but both times I tried this Molly went on a hunger strike and poo poo in front of my bedroom door.

Edit 2: I free fed Molly when I first got her and she gained a ton of weight. She was already a bit overweight when I got her, but when I look at pictures from when I first got her and pictures of her after a couple of weeks she is noticeably obese compared to the original. Ruthie used to be an outdoor cat and she also just got spayed, so I’m afraid if I free feed her she would also balloon up cause she’d try to eat the same amount of food as when she was running around outside 24/7 and un-spayed.

Boris Galerkin fucked around with this message at 19:46 on May 1, 2020

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

Boris Galerkin posted:

I edited my post with one more sentence. Basically since Ruthie always runs towards Molly, Molly has started avoiding Ruthie. Ruthie is always in the same room as me (her choice), and I’m usually in the living room, so this means Molly doesn’t go into the living room and it means she avoids me as well indirectly. I can’t play with Molly unless I go into my bedroom and close the door behind me and I’m sick and tired of spending so much time in my bedroom awake.

I don’t care if they don’t snuggle together anymore. I just want them to share the same space.

Let them work it out. We had a new cat that was terrified of one of our other cats and would pointedly avoid being anywhere near her. She eventually found her own spaces to hang out and feel comfortable in, got bolder, and now she and the older cat play and chase each other around. It took about a year.

Molly will seek you out when she wants your attention. You don't need to chase her for it. Adapt yourself to your cats and their idiosyncrasies. Don't expect them to adapt to the way you want them to be.

Let your cats be cats and just enjoy them.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

Deteriorata posted:

Let them work it out. We had a new cat that was terrified of one of our other cats and would pointedly avoid being anywhere near her. She eventually found her own spaces to hang out and feel comfortable in, got bolder, and now she and the older cat play and chase each other around. It took about a year.

Molly will seek you out when she wants your attention. You don't need to chase her for it. Adapt yourself to your cats and their idiosyncrasies. Don't expect them to adapt to the way you want them to be.

Let your cats be cats and just enjoy them.

Molly doesn’t seek me out because she avoids Ruthie and Ruthie is always near me. I don’t chase her or anything, I just walk into my bedroom and close the door before Ruthie can get in. Molly comes out of her cave and plays with me when the door closes. OR, I walk in with snacks/toys and Ruthie follows me inside. Then Molly comes out too when she sees the toy in my hand.

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

Boris Galerkin posted:

Molly doesn’t seek me out because she avoids Ruthie and Ruthie is always near me. I don’t chase her or anything, I just walk into my bedroom and close the door before Ruthie can get in. Molly comes out of her cave and plays with me when the door closes.

Again, all I can suggest is leaving them alone and not stressing about it. Ruthie will eventually figure out that Molly doesn't like being run at and chill out. Molly will get bolder and come out eventually.

They're not actually fighting, so it seems like just a communication/adaptation issue for them.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

Deteriorata posted:

Again, all I can suggest is leaving them alone and not stressing about it. Ruthie will eventually figure out that Molly doesn't like being run at and chill out. Molly will get bolder and come out eventually.

They're not actually fighting, so it seems like just a communication/adaptation issue for them.

Ok, so if I just let it be and do nothing then Molly ends up spending the entire day in my bedroom only coming out to eat and drink (I feed Ruthie in the living room now and just distract her enough that she doesn’t run into the kitchen to eat Molly’s food.) Are you saying that I should just stop going into my room to play/bond with Molly and that it’s ok that Molly lives her entire life in one room? I’m thinking from a human perspective and that sounds like torture. But I’m not a cat and I have no idea how they think.

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

Boris Galerkin posted:

Ok, so if I just let it be and do nothing then Molly ends up spending the entire day in my bedroom only coming out to eat and drink (I feed Ruthie in the living room now and just distract her enough that she doesn’t run into the kitchen to eat Molly’s food.) Are you saying that I should just stop going into my room to play/bond with Molly and that it’s ok that Molly lives her entire life in one room? I’m thinking from a human perspective and that sounds like torture. But I’m not a cat and I have no idea how they think.

Do whatever you want. Just don't stress about it. Your cats are just being cats.

It's not cruel to leave Molly in there if it's where she wants to be. She feels safe there. Cats are territorial, and that's her turf. She won't live her entire life in there, just for a while. Eventually she'll feel bold enough to come out.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

Deteriorata posted:

Do whatever you want. Just don't stress about it. Your cats are just being cats.

It's not cruel to leave Molly in there if it's where she wants to be. She feels safe there. Cats are territorial, and that's her turf. She won't live her entire life in there, just for a while. Eventually she'll feel bold enough to come out.

Alright thanks. It’s just really frustrating (and stressful) for me because I just want the two to live happy lives. From my perspective, if I were being forced to live with someone that scares me (I’d be Molly in this case) I would absolutely hate my life and everything about it. So that’s why I joked about locking them into the same room until Stockholm syndroom sets in cause at least then they’d be happy even if it’s not real.

Dixville
Nov 4, 2008

I don't think!
Ham Wrangler

Deteriorata posted:

Do whatever you want. Just don't stress about it. Your cats are just being cats.

It's not cruel to leave Molly in there if it's where she wants to be. She feels safe there. Cats are territorial, and that's her turf. She won't live her entire life in there, just for a while. Eventually she'll feel bold enough to come out.

I think this is may be true, a lot of times cats will just need time to feel things out and learn they won't always be harrassed.

Some anti anxiety things you can try at home would be supplements like zylkene, pheromone diffuser Feliway, etc. Maybe also adding more vertical space to your house where Molly can escape to if she feels threatened, like cat trees etc? If possible.

You are right to be concerned about one cat hiding away forever, if it continues after letting them roam then you might want to talk to a veterinarian or behaviorist about maybe getting one or both of them on behavioral meds like buspar or fluoxetine.

kaworu
Jul 23, 2004

Regarding a good brush for either medium-haired cats with excessively thick coats (like my Jackie-cat) or long-haired cats with crazy thick fur in mats/dreads..... This is the answer and cure to your problems:

https://www.amazon.com/Safari-Pet-D...=shedding+blade

This is a Shedding Blade, and ever since I started to use one I have never been able to go back to "normal" brushes when I'm really trying to get all that excess fur off her...

I cannot stress how utterly necessary and fantastic this thing is. I thought I'd NEVER be able to wear deep dark blacks again after I got Jackie, because she would immediately have it coated in cat hair just by looking at it... However, when I am using this every few days or once a week to keep up, she BARELY sheds at all - it's magical, almost.

Jackie also loves being brushed by one of these more than anything else, it makes her act like an otter when stretching, which actually sorta helps the brushing!


edit: I also have to add that I have wound up with the most ENORMOUS balls of fur while brushing cats with the shedding blade. With Jackie, my best was a compressed massl entirely consisting of cat-fur about the size of a SOFTBALL. Which is quite a sight. We once had a 22-pound male Maine Coon (not fat or overweight just enormous) named Spooky, who'd hunt woodchuck and opossum, tear their heads off for sport. We actually had one of those animal protection guys showing up here, apparently neighbors had been finding all these rodents with their heads torn clean off (I grew up near a small pond and forested path where folks nearby walk their dogs) and they thought it was some demented sociopath of a kid, or something - but nope, just an average cat :3:

kaworu fucked around with this message at 23:52 on May 1, 2020

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

Dixville posted:

I think this is may be true, a lot of times cats will just need time to feel things out and learn they won't always be harrassed.

Some anti anxiety things you can try at home would be supplements like zylkene, pheromone diffuser Feliway, etc. Maybe also adding more vertical space to your house where Molly can escape to if she feels threatened, like cat trees etc? If possible.

You are right to be concerned about one cat hiding away forever, if it continues after letting them roam then you might want to talk to a veterinarian or behaviorist about maybe getting one or both of them on behavioral meds like buspar or fluoxetine.

I do need to get more vertical space because it’s lacking right now. I’m planning on getting a massive one but I’m waiting until I move in the next couple of months to make moving less of a pain. I do have two massive (1m tall) scratching posts and one of those inverted box-on-a-post things that I have never seen either get into. I’ve also converted some of my shelves in into cat cubbies that Ruthie sleeps in most of the time. The only problem is that all of this (except for one scratching post) is in my living room where Molly doesn’t wander into anymore. I don’t want to put anything more in my bedroom because I don’t want to encourage Molly to stay there.

I’m considering getting a Feliway Multicat/Friends thing but I’m on the fence about it. I bought 2 of the Classic diffusers and I’m just not sure they had any effect on either of my cats. The one in my bedroom ran out and I didn’t notice any behavior change in Molly, and after a week of that I moved the one in the living room into my bedroom again to see if I notice anything and both Molly (now with a diffuser running again) and Ruthie still behave normally. Both have been empty and unplugged again and nothing seems unchanged.

I’m brining Ruthie back to the vet to checkup on her spay and to get the rest of her vaccinations this coming week so I guess I’ll ask them if they think medication would be helpful?

On something totally unrelated, sometimes when I pet Ruthie she flexes one of her paws at me, claws fully extended. Is this a sign for me to leave her alone? I understand that a thumping tail means to leave her alone and sometimes I think one way she looks at me also screams leave me alone. I’m just trying to understand my cats better so that I don’t keep doing something to them that I thought was cute but that they actually hate and are confused/upset about why I don’t understand the signs.

Edit: Shedding- Ruthie sheds so god drat much. Every time she scratches her neck I can see slivers of hair flying off into the air. She lets me brush her but only her back and neck. If I go too far down on her sides she does this thing where she pretend bites me (her teeth are on my skin but she doesn’t bite down).

Boris Galerkin fucked around with this message at 09:35 on May 2, 2020

Dixville
Nov 4, 2008

I don't think!
Ham Wrangler
I feel like sometimes cats do this "kneading the air" kind of thing that can look like that. It's not a sign of being upset, rather that they are content and doing self soothing movements. Does that make sense? It's not like a sign of wanting you to stop or agression
Edit like this only they are awake

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA8Z1v4Vics

Organza Quiz
Nov 7, 2009


Boris Galerkin posted:

On something totally unrelated, sometimes when I pet Ruthie she flexes one of her paws at me, claws fully extended. Is this a sign for me to leave her alone? I understand that a thumping tail means to leave her alone and sometimes I think one way she looks at me also screams leave me alone. I’m just trying to understand my cats better so that I don’t keep doing something to them that I thought was cute but that they actually hate and are confused/upset about why I don’t understand the signs.

The nice thing about cats is that they will make it REALLY clear if you continue doing something they don't like. They might show subtle signs at first but if you keep going then they will either scratch/bite or move away from you. So there's no need to be tentative, you'll soon learn what they like and don't like and eventually will also start picking up on more subtle signs that they don't want you doing the thing before they reach the point of swiping you or leaving.

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

November


January


March


April




When do you put a cat down "for their own good"? She has a lifetime prescription of Metacam (however many months that is)

Luneshot
Mar 10, 2014

I hate to say it, but if my own experience with a cat’s malignant jaw cancer is anything to go by, its already overdue.

I’m not trying to be insensitive, but i guarantee their quality of life is already significantly decreased.

Luneshot fucked around with this message at 11:00 on May 2, 2020

Tamarillo
Aug 6, 2009
Oh man. I'm sorry. Given the location I'd worry about the mass severely impacting her breathing and/or eating, or becoming locally invasive. If shes not eating normally, losing weight, in pain etc I'd be thinking very hard about it.

I put my black cat down down for quality of life reasons (he had lymphoma) and he went downhill very fast when it was time. Rapid weight loss, increased aggression, lethargy and and inappropriate urination were his key signs.

Tamarillo fucked around with this message at 11:17 on May 2, 2020

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

Right now her behaviour is completely unchanged except for more sneezing. She eats, plays, cuddles, sleeps etc. She's actually a bit extra cuddly now that she's on round-the-clock painkiller oral gel.

She's putting on a little weight because I figured there was no point in keeping her on her old diet any more so now she gets all the food she can eat.


Seems kind of selfish to tell her "sorry, death is preferable to living this way"


I was going to wait until she showed signs of behavioural deterioration.

kw0134
Apr 19, 2003

I buy feet pics🍆

The non-scientific answer of "more bad days than good" applies, or is the one I would never judge another cat owner for such a difficult decision. It's impossible to fully tell with cats, being they hide their pain so well, but you know her best and if she deviates then you'll probably know. FWIW I support not making the appointment yet; if she's "normal" then it's probably manageable for her. But the decline can be swift and sudden and you should be aware of that.

mistaya
Oct 18, 2006

Cat of Wealth and Taste

I wish we could give you better advice but the way I think about it is with a diagnosis like your cat has the clock is basically run out now and while you want to hold onto them as long as you can, and give them as many good days and as much love as you can, it's going to be kinder to your cat to let them pass before it gets to the point where their body starts to violently and painfully shut down. Part of this is how you're going to process their loss. From the stories I've heard here and other places, most people regret waiting too long, because they end up feeling like they selfishly prolonged their pet's suffering.

If she's still having mostly good days it may not be time yet, and only you can make that call. But she needs you to be strong enough to let go before things get too bad for her, and that is going to be soon. I'm so sorry, it's always incredibly hard to lose a friend but having to make end of life decisions like this is the worst way to do it. :sympathy:

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

I am 100% ready. But I'm not a spiritual person. This is her one chance at life. She has never had a chance before and never will have another again. This is her one and all.

She wants to live more than anything so it feels so selfish for me to put her down "for her own good" when she's still fighting and managing. Just so I can feel better about it being over.

Hawkperson
Jun 20, 2003

Katt posted:

I am 100% ready. But I'm not a spiritual person. This is her one chance at life. She has never had a chance before and never will have another again. This is her one and all.

She wants to live more than anything so it feels so selfish for me to put her down "for her own good" when she's still fighting and managing. Just so I can feel better about it being over.

I’m not an expert but it sounds like you’ve got a handle on it and will know when it’s time. I’m sorry :glomp:

Boris Galerkin your cats sound like my cats. They don’t get along and the chubby one hisses at the lean one when he’s clearly trying to come play. Chubs sleeps with me on the bed and for a long time would fiercely defend it as her territory and make him sleep in the corner of the room or outside it at the top of the steps. It took a while - like several months, maybe 6? - but now they both sleep on the bed on opposite sides and they don’t fight so much. Sometimes I even catch them napping next to each other! Not cuddling, mind you, just napping like three inches apart.

I don’t expect them to ever be best buds but they have worked out what works for them. They even share Hawkperson time based on time of day and location. I didn’t go out of my way to train them into it or change my routine, they just figured it out. When I’m chilling at my computer it’s time for my fluffy one to hang. When I come back inside from taking a walk or I start a Zoom call it’s TIME FOR THE SKINNY ONE TO GET PET WHAT ARE YOU DOING ARE YOU NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO ME??? I WILL BITE YOU IF YOU DO NOT PET ME WHILE TALKING TO YOUR WEBCAM.

loaf
Jan 25, 2004



Really sorry to see that, Katt. Mine went through something similar last year when we noticed a growing red bump in March. The initial needle biopsy came back negative and we had it surgically removed, but then they diagnosed spindle-cell carcinoma. We treated it with four rounds of electrochemotherapy, which made her lip fall off but didn't stop the cancer. She hated going to the doctor and wearing the cone and I wish I had happier memories of her final months. I should've skipped the treatment and stuck with painkillers. If she's still eating and playing and happy it really doesn't sound like it's time yet, but if it's cancer it may progress really quickly.







Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


I hate coming into this thread with basic questions during serious talk but someone a few pages back mentioned generic catit flower fountain filters were a thing that existed and i was wondering if anyone could point me towards a good listing. I saw a bunch on amazon but the reviews were all pretty heavy on "DO NOT BUY THESE DON'T FIT"

Femtosecond
Aug 2, 2003

Curious if anyone has any experience with a cat living with ear polyps?

Done some research and it's clear that that surgical removal is the usual treatment (ie. grab it with forceps) and in some cases when that's not possible there's a more invasive (and effective) surgery option. Often the polyps come back with the former treatment.

The local cat sanctuary was curious if I wanted to take in a FIV+ cat that wasn't really fitting in at the sanctuary since I already have a FIV+ cat. Only issue is that he has ear polyps and during his last dental the vet felt the easy 'remove polyps with forceps' treatment wasn't going to be possible.

I'm curious to know what I'm getting myself into here, whether this would make sense or am I just piling up some problems and vet bills for myself.

Is some wiggle room here where people just leave them and only get surgery when (if?) the polyps become a problem (infection & smell, obvious discomfort for cat). The cat sanctuary only does surgery in these cases when they need to, though I wasn't sure if that's the consensus recommendation in the cat vet community or what the sanctuary is doing to save cash.

I'd be inclined to help since the cat is genuinely very sweet and nice.

floofyscorp
Feb 12, 2007

Cat thread, how the gently caress do I stop my cat from climbing the curtains. Cinnamon has developed this new and very alarming hobby recently and I'd really like her to stop without having to take drastic action like banning cats from the bedroom, because usually they're very purry and affectionate when we're in bed(as I type this Loki is purring up a storm and rubbing his face against my phone).

It started a few weeks ago, when Cinnamon discovered that she could get inside the curtain between the lining and the curtain itself, scramble up to the top, realise there was nowhere else to go, and fall out of it with a startlingly loud thump. She seems to have a sense for when my husband and I are not quite awake yet and unable to respond to her devilry with anything more intelligent than confused yelling, which she ignores. I thought I'd solved the problem by stitching the bottom of the lining to the curtain so she can't get into it, but now she's just climbing up the outside instead. I don't think our lovely curtain rail can keep taking five kilos of overexcited cat hanging out of it.

InvisibleMonkey
Jun 4, 2004


Hey, girl.

floofyscorp posted:

Cat thread, how the gently caress do I stop my cat from climbing the curtains. Cinnamon has developed this new and very alarming hobby recently and I'd really like her to stop without having to take drastic action like banning cats from the bedroom, because usually they're very purry and affectionate when we're in bed(as I type this Loki is purring up a storm and rubbing his face against my phone).

It started a few weeks ago, when Cinnamon discovered that she could get inside the curtain between the lining and the curtain itself, scramble up to the top, realise there was nowhere else to go, and fall out of it with a startlingly loud thump. She seems to have a sense for when my husband and I are not quite awake yet and unable to respond to her devilry with anything more intelligent than confused yelling, which she ignores. I thought I'd solved the problem by stitching the bottom of the lining to the curtain so she can't get into it, but now she's just climbing up the outside instead. I don't think our lovely curtain rail can keep taking five kilos of overexcited cat hanging out of it.

I suggest kicking her out of the bedroom whenever she does it, we do this with Katya when she feels like we should be getting up and giving her breakfast and just starts knocking poo poo over to get our attention. We do often let her back in after a time-out and then she drops the attitude immediately, seems to be the only consequence she understands because if we give her attention for it she tried to lead us to her food bowl. I swear she thinks she's training us half of the time.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.

InvisibleMonkey posted:

I suggest kicking her out of the bedroom whenever she does it, we do this with Katya when she feels like we should be getting up and giving her breakfast and just starts knocking poo poo over to get our attention. We do often let her back in after a time-out and then she drops the attitude immediately, seems to be the only consequence she understands because if we give her attention for it she tried to lead us to her food bowl. I swear she thinks she's training us half of the time.

This approach worked for me, too; I have an antique screen in my office and Aleta desperately wants to climb it. Every time she goes near it, I shoo her out and close the door. She absolutely HATES closed doors when she knows humans are behind them, so she's learned. Sometimes I catch her looking at it wistfully, but she hasn't touched it in weeks.

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Jun 9, 2005

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My girlfriend had a small bouquet of flowers that was dying. One of the tulip flower pedals fell off the ground as we were throwing it away we didn't notice and we caught my cat in the midst of partially eating it. Called my vet, they said take him to emergency ER. Did that, and they said "well he only ate half a pedal, and not the pollen, leaf or bulb. He's fine to go home, and will probably just have slight diarrhea for the next day or two." Given what my vet said about tulips being poisonous, is this okay? I know lillies are the death trap over tulips, but I'm probably overthinking it. They didn't even suggest to induce vomiting.

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Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

seiferguy posted:

My girlfriend had a small bouquet of flowers that was dying. One of the tulip flower pedals fell off the ground as we were throwing it away we didn't notice and we caught my cat in the midst of partially eating it. Called my vet, they said take him to emergency ER. Did that, and they said "well he only ate half a pedal, and not the pollen, leaf or bulb. He's fine to go home, and will probably just have slight diarrhea for the next day or two." Given what my vet said about tulips being poisonous, is this okay? I know lillies are the death trap over tulips, but I'm probably overthinking it. They didn't even suggest to induce vomiting.

Given what the ER vet said, your cat may have slight diarrhea for the next day or two.

"They're toxic" is a general statement that doesn't necessarily apply to every part of the plant. Some bits are worse than others. Also, "toxic" doesn't necessarily mean instant death. It often means an adverse reaction far short of death.

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