Ok thread what is the best way to drop a small hobby drone at about 50 yards safely? I am going to start with 12g #4 steel shot, seems like the best option. I don't want to use a rifle since I don't want to send rifle rounds off at high trajectories. Anyone have any experience shooting down or getting their drones shot down? Is there any way to track down which shithead owns the drone based on the serial number or anything else afterwards? Pryor on Fire fucked around with this message at 20:18 on May 2, 2020 |
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# ? May 2, 2020 20:15 |
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# ? Apr 19, 2024 09:22 |
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Tail between my legs, with a new sense of humility, I return with a new Mini. Best Buy took it for exchange, no questions asked. I've now learned that these things have a bit wider turn radius than it appears on camera, and will treat this one much more carefully!
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# ? May 2, 2020 20:20 |
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don't shoot firearms at toy helicopters, you lunatic. e: not jonny
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# ? May 2, 2020 20:21 |
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So I've got an Air 2 pre-ordered. This will be my first drone. I'm a certificated private pilot working on my instrument and all I need to do to get my 107 is make time to get with a local DPE to sign me off (COVID has made that somewhat challenging). I also live under delta airspace. Downloaded the DJI fly app and looks like I have to get an unlock every time I want to fly around my yard. This is a blue "Authorization" area. I'm not that far off the approach end of a runway and thus not far from a red "restricted" zone. Is this going to be a giant pain in the rear end? Are unlocks in authorization zones hard to get? What about restricted zones? This is probably me being a little to proud of myself, but can I just photocopy my private certificate and send it to DJI to get some kind of permanent unlock?
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# ? May 2, 2020 20:22 |
Sagebrush posted:don't shoot firearms at toy helicopters, you lunatic. Why not? Getting tired of this thing flying around my house every Saturday morning. I already moved the shotgun to the deck, just waiting for next week now.
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# ? May 2, 2020 20:22 |
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Pryor on Fire posted:Ok thread what is the best way to drop a small hobby drone at about 50 yards safely? I am going to start with 12g #4 steel shot, seems like the best option. I don't want to use a rifle since I don't want to send rifle rounds off at high trajectories. I’m guessing you’re trolling but if not here you go https://www.securitymagazine.com/articles/88696-before-you-pull-the-trigger-the-legal-implications-of-shooting-down-a-drone
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# ? May 2, 2020 20:23 |
Not trolling, it's perfectly legal to discharge firearms on your property around here, and the polite deputy already informed me they have zero resources to deal with idiots and their drones, he was the one who suggested I shoot it down. I killed a squirrel for fun and then shot through a box of old 9mm just because I was bored this morning. Not everyone lives in a studio in Williamsburg. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? May 2, 2020 20:27 |
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Pryor on Fire posted:Not trolling, it's perfectly legal to discharge firearms on your property around here, and the polite deputy already informed me they have zero resources to deal with idiots and their drones, he was the one who suggested I shoot it down. It’s also perfectly legal to fly a drone. It’s illegal however to shoot down a drone. Maybe try TFR if you want a better response; you just did the equivalent of asking a pet owners group how to kill your neighbors German Shepard.
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# ? May 2, 2020 20:41 |
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Yeah that's some cursed poo poo. Looks like it's a federal crime to shoot down UAVs of any size. good luck using the "but i can shoot guns on my property" defense.
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# ? May 2, 2020 20:42 |
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if you can take down the drone with a javelin, sling, trained falcon, or other ancient weapon i'll grudgingly allow it. https://i.imgur.com/lfFDjAV.mp4 if you need to use your chrome bang bang wee wee to attack the scary plastic helicopter you need to grow a set of balls.
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# ? May 2, 2020 20:54 |
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Pryor on Fire posted:Why not? Getting tired of this thing flying around my house every Saturday morning. I already moved the shotgun to the deck, just waiting for next week now. It's very illegal, for one.
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# ? May 2, 2020 20:55 |
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Sagebrush posted:
You could even get your own runestone for the feat!
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# ? May 2, 2020 21:00 |
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Sagebrush posted:pro tip: airport primary radar doesn't work below the horizon and no piloted aircraft should be flying lower than 500' AGL anywhere except within like a mile of an airport. no one's gonna know or care what you're doing with a drone if you stay low. Pryor on Fire posted:Why not? Getting tired of this thing flying around my house every Saturday morning. I already moved the shotgun to the deck, just waiting for next week now. Pryor on Fire posted:Not trolling, it's perfectly legal to discharge firearms on your property around here, and the polite deputy already informed me they have zero resources to deal with idiots and their drones, he was the one who suggested I shoot it down. Pryor on Fire posted:I killed a squirrel for fun. Not everyone lives in a studio in Williamsburg. evil_bunnY fucked around with this message at 21:06 on May 2, 2020 |
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Please shoot that drone down, it’s for sure not super illegal and nothing bad will happen to you. Also lol at getting mad enough at a drone to shoot it down. Get your own drone and joust it out of the air like a real man.
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# ? May 2, 2020 22:52 |
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Pryor on Fire posted:Ok thread what is the best way to drop a small hobby drone at about 50 yards safely? I am going to start with 12g #4 steel shot, seems like the best option. I don't want to use a rifle since I don't want to send rifle rounds off at high trajectories. Have you considered the same rights that let you own guns and murder random animals for no reason, also might let other people play with flying toys?
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# ? May 2, 2020 23:04 |
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If the drone follows the same path every time around your house, get a few spools of sewing thread and put together a huge spiderweb or grid of thread. Invisible to Any FPV cam and will catch it without destructive intent, then wait for them to show up to retrieve it.
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# ? May 2, 2020 23:07 |
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Rontalvos posted:If the drone follows the same path every time around your house, get a few spools of sewing thread and put together a huge spiderweb or grid of thread. Invisible to Any FPV cam and will catch it without destructive intent, then wait for them to show up to retrieve it. Why would you give this guy ideas. If the drone pilot gets murdered by this toothless hillbilly it's on you
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# ? May 2, 2020 23:08 |
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:Also lol at getting mad enough at a drone to shoot it down. Get your own drone and joust it out of the air like a real man. Sacrificial babyhawk should take down just about anything while also being much cheaper than a lawyer.
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# ? May 2, 2020 23:10 |
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Jonny 290 posted:Tail between my legs, with a new sense of humility, I return with a new Mini. Best Buy took it for exchange, no questions asked. If you want to play in the fastest mode, do some stop tests close to you. For the size and power they really move fast, but for stopping and turning at top speed they are really underpowered. To watch it lean back 30 degrees-ish and it just keeps sliding forward is a bit clench inducing. The turning circle is also horrifying to witness at top speed. Also, a bit of a tip because it caught me one day, beware the wind. Yeah, when the wind warnings pop up they are normally some bullshit, but you can get enough wind travelling underneath it that it doesn't want to come down, and it won't throttle down enough to lose altitude. Sometimes you can circle downwards and get down that way, sometimes hide near a tall structure to shield you, but people have been known to lose them like that so keep it in mind.
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# ? May 2, 2020 23:19 |
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Yeah “too much wind to descend” is a real thing and it’s scary to see. I’ve had it a couple times with mine. Usually descending while moving makes it a bit better, as it gets you into different air and you can descend a bit as the wind moves around. I’ve never had mine straight up get stuck in the air, mind, but I could see it happening with a decent thermal.
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# ? May 2, 2020 23:31 |
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Fly your routes forwards before you fly them backwards, kids! https://youtu.be/TGEqRboBtFo
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# ? May 3, 2020 00:58 |
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I hope you're able to rebuild it! To the guy wanting to skeet shoot, is there an RF jammer that could work? Those are probably also illegal but less dangerous
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# ? May 3, 2020 01:18 |
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CloFan posted:I hope you're able to rebuild it! That's probably even more illegal than shooting it out of the sky, tbh.
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# ? May 3, 2020 01:31 |
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Strictly speaking .22 long ought to cut it, you just have to aim at the fellow what's flying the drone. Please for the love of god do not do this.
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# ? May 3, 2020 05:41 |
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buy your own drone, make sure it's fully charged, when it shows up next week follow it home and go knock on their door and make a new friend
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# ? May 3, 2020 05:44 |
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What are FAA regulations about taping a pointy stick on your drone to air joust other drones? Would it be possible to make a sport out of this? Man, RobotWars with semi-autonomous quads would be fun to watch.
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# ? May 3, 2020 05:46 |
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Warbird posted:What are FAA regulations about taping a pointy stick on your drone to air joust other drones? Would it be possible to make a sport out of this? Man, RobotWars with semi-autonomous quads would be fun to watch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q69X23jI68c Already a thing indoors! They're built for super fast parts swaps and whatnot
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# ? May 3, 2020 06:02 |
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Bumble Dong posted:It’s also perfectly legal to fly a drone. It’s illegal however to shoot down a drone. Maybe try TFR if you want a better response; you just did the equivalent of asking a pet owners group how to kill your neighbors German Shepard. Yeah I can’t imagine TFR being at all into doing illegal things with guns either tbh.
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# ? May 3, 2020 06:45 |
tildes posted:Yeah I can’t imagine TFR being at all into doing illegal things with guns either tbh. Not after the puckins guy
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# ? May 3, 2020 07:42 |
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Jonny 290 posted:buy your own drone, make sure it's fully charged, when it shows up next week follow it home and go knock on their door and make a new friend This is actually the only correct post on this subject yet
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# ? May 3, 2020 15:05 |
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Please refrain from discussing how best to shoot people, animals, or things, here in our forum 210, and probably wise for the rest of the forums too.
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# ? May 3, 2020 15:07 |
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Jaded Burnout posted:Please refrain from discussing how best to shoot people, animals, or things, here in our forum 210, and probably wise for the rest of the forums too. Man, I was just typing up a post about how he could have a nuclear-powered rocket-propelled jammer system that hacks the drone's camera TX to trace back the operator. That way he could have the FAA, ATF, DOE, FCC, and NSA all after him at once!
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babyeatingpsychopath posted:Man, I was just typing up a post about how he could have a nuclear-powered rocket-propelled jammer system that hacks the drone's camera TX to trace back the operator. That way he could have the FAA, ATF, DOE, FCC, and NSA all after him at once! I never said refrain from discussing how to be awesome. Just don't get the treasury involved.
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# ? May 3, 2020 15:53 |
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Not to distract everyone from the utter moron trying to shoot other people's property, but this guy actually had a good question and nobody answered it:Prefect Six posted:So I've got an Air 2 pre-ordered. This will be my first drone. I'm a certificated private pilot working on my instrument and all I need to do to get my 107 is make time to get with a local DPE to sign me off (COVID has made that somewhat challenging). Yes, if you are in a Delta surface area, you will need ATC authorization for every flight. Grab Kittyhawk and you can submit LAANC requests through there, and you don't have to actually follow up and fly if you're approved. I've also noticed many areas have different authorization levels available for Part 107 vs recreational flying (for example, the outer edges of a D area usually have increasing amount of ceiling available for Part 107 requests, but not for recreational requests). I have flown in some areas that were marked restricted and either had written permission or LAANC authorization, and was able to just skip past the warning in the DJI software (Mavic Air or 2 Pro). I don't know if the Mavic Air 2 is different and won't fly at all, but I would imagine there's an override method somehow, since there's lots of scenarios where a flight should be legally possible. And yes, it's a little smuggo to try and wave your PPL. Lots of drone ops have credentials, or (like me) some logged hours and extensive manned fixed-wing knowledge but not any actual certs. You're not that special Although, the one thing I can think of where that might be helpful: if you're having trouble getting authorizations in a timely manner or whatever, get ahold of the airport manager, tell them you're a private pilot who wants to work out a standing authorization for UAS in a small area, and that might increase your chances of getting somewhere.
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# ? May 3, 2020 23:37 |
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My mini is a real pain in the rear end. I live in a blue area according to the DJI map, and it demands boxes to be checked off, a text message code confirming authorization just to fly. Even just to test it out in my apartment. If I'm in the zone that DJI marks red, then I need a code from what I assume is LAANC, otherwise i can't take off. And if I dare stray into the red zone it will try and force a landing and I have to leg it back to the blue. This nearly was the end of my mini as it wanted to land in the middle of a river.
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# ? May 4, 2020 00:02 |
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that loving sucks, my OG mavic with really old firmware doesn't do any of that poo poo. It'll tell me I shouldn't fly there, but only with a single warning box then I can do whatever
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# ? May 4, 2020 02:11 |
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I think I’m gonna put in a preorder for a Mavic Air 2. Been eyeing a drone for years and been waiting for them to reach the price point / quality / feature level they seem to be hitting with the MA2. Kinda wish I knew what DJI had planned for the M3 because waiting for that is my only hesitation.
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# ? May 4, 2020 05:26 |
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Rincey posted:Yes, if you are in a Delta surface area, you will need ATC authorization for every flight. Grab Kittyhawk and you can submit LAANC requests through there, and you don't have to actually follow up and fly if you're approved. I've also noticed many areas have different authorization levels available for Part 107 vs recreational flying (for example, the outer edges of a D area usually have increasing amount of ceiling available for Part 107 requests, but not for recreational requests). Thanks! One other question that has come up when looking through all this, if I want to use the drone for hobby and possibly some commercial stuff down the line, should I just register it under 107? Will that interfere with using it for hobby purposes in LAANC? E: Also, I registered in Kittyhawk and tried to get authorization for a hobby flight in the class D surface area and it said that authorizations are not eligible over 0ft. Am I boned without contacting the tower for a written waiver? Maybe it’s because the tower is closed and it’s the middle of the night (is the software that smart?)? Prefect Six fucked around with this message at 05:39 on May 4, 2020 |
# ? May 4, 2020 05:35 |
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Ok, so now it's time to suggest building a medium-range (100s of meters) GPS spoofer under a class delta airspace near the approach end of an airport so you can fly your drone without its software complaining. Just keep replaying the data that says its 9/11/01 and you're in the Azores and you'll be fine. Of course, you're going to have to re-map your geo altitudes to match the local geoid or your thing will just fly to 0ft MSL, which I hear is a problem outside of Florida. I think that's only FCC and FAA. But maybe the Air Force Space Command (Space Force now?) because it's GPS. And of course, USGS because you're messing with their WGS-84 geoid data.
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# ? May 4, 2020 05:49 |
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probably the FBI too since if you're screwing with the GPS near an airport that's gonna affect interstate commerce
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