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weed cat
Dec 23, 2010

weed cat is back, and he loves to suck dick



:sueme:
lungfish came back from a 100,000 hr probe

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Ariong
Jun 25, 2012




It is absolutely killer that they outlasted the admin who gave them a 100k probe.

Veni Vidi Ameche!
Nov 2, 2017

by Fluffdaddy
“100,000 hour probe came back” stories are boring, because anyone who comes back after 11 years was here the whole time.

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

Veni Vidi Ameche! posted:

“100,000 hour probe came back” stories are boring, because anyone who comes back after 11 years was here the whole time.

There is no Easter Bunny either, it's just some guy in a suit.

Sleeveless
Dec 25, 2014

by Pragmatica

Sweevo posted:

Why is it always layers and layers of fetishes with these people? Why is it never "I fancy this cartoon character. And that's it!" like that guy who drew comics about being married to Princess Peach? He just liked Peach, he didn't draw a billion pictures of Peach as a My Little Pony, forevierial delitized, pissing on him while he was inflated.

https://twitter.com/alecrobbins/status/1233445773682991104

One More Fat Nerd posted:

Its like drug tolerance, some folks just dive in to *insert weird kink* whole hog, and that gets boring over time so they keep needing to add new kinks to get excited. The ubiquity of internet porn makes detoxing very difficult, so they just get weirder and weirder, and furry commission artists keep getting richer and more deranged.

I wasn't expecting to see weird volcel :biotruths: about how porn corrupts you out in the wild like this but go off I guess.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
The Betty Boop comic is a masterpiece when you realise it's parodying a very specific yet extremely common phenomena.

Moon Slayer
Jun 19, 2007

Mr. Boop is one of the only pure and good things to come out of 2020 so far and I will fight anyone who says otherwise.

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

I think this is the first one of these I've seen.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Elephant Ambush posted:

I think this is the first one of these I've seen.

I’m pretty sure someone else has come back only to post like a dick and eat a perma within days but hell if I can remember who.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Moon Slayer posted:

Mr. Boop is one of the only pure and good things to come out of 2020 so far and I will fight anyone who says otherwise.

That twist at the end of book one.

Also, the website is a gem.

Tashilicious
Jul 17, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Sleeveless posted:




I wasn't expecting to see weird volcel :biotruths: about how porn corrupts you out in the wild like this but go off I guess.

porn will absolutely mess up your intima- oh its sleeveless.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



more like wizardsleeveless.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I still say romantic comedies and TV romantic subplots have way more to answer for than porn for giving impressionable and undersocialised young people dangerously bad and unrealistic ideas about relationships.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

Porn is spectacle, the problem is the complete lack of anything else sexual in education or media. It's like if instead of drivers education we forced kids to secretly torrent Fast and Furious movies and act surprised when they Tokyo Drift their asses to death.

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



I learned both my driving and relationship skills from the Fast & Furious franchise and I turned out fine :colbert:

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord

Ghost Leviathan posted:

I still say romantic comedies and TV romantic subplots have way more to answer for than porn for giving impressionable and undersocialised young people dangerously bad and unrealistic ideas about relationships.
The eighties were my formative years, and Revenge of the Nerds hosed me up in profound ways.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Ghost Leviathan posted:

I still say romantic comedies and TV romantic subplots have way more to answer for than porn for giving impressionable and undersocialised young people dangerously bad and unrealistic ideas about relationships.

I would not agree with that. For example, you can see discussions by sex workers that when choking took off in pornography it became very common for clients to do so, and some of the workers have begun suffering from brain damage as a result of so many clients choking them without permission.

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

In both cases the problem is having most of your experience of a human interaction being from something done for the benefit of an audience rather than the participants. What porn does for sex, rom-coms do for the relationships around it.

Tenebrais fucked around with this message at 16:56 on May 4, 2020

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
Can we be more specific? What are we talking about here that's worse than choking -- the idea that women deserve elaborate proposals?

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Anne Whateley posted:

Can we be more specific? What are we talking about here that's worse than choking -- the idea that women deserve elaborate proposals?

I think the idea that if you keep trying to woo someone who has said "go away, I don't like you" they'll eventually cave to your stalker behavior and end up falling madly in love with you

But I'm not sure where that falls in regards to choking without consent

Moo the cow
Apr 30, 2020

dwarf74 posted:

The eighties were my formative years, and Revenge of the Nerds hosed me up in profound ways.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ7mJFNkLAU

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Anne Whateley posted:

Can we be more specific? What are we talking about here that's worse than choking -- the idea that women deserve elaborate proposals?

One candidate is the "all woman are confused and date jerks and just need a gentle, quirky guy friend who they'll fall in love with eventually"

It's lead to at least 1 mass shooting, likely a large amount of sexual assault, no end of stalking and creepy behavior, and a general sense of fear and worry for girls and women in general.

A girl has That One Male Friend who they thought they could trust and talk to, and suddenly one day the guy goes in to kiss her and when she rejects it he starts screaming that she's a whore and he's done so much for her.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
I mean that's definitely a thing, but like Revenge of the Nerds and the other stuff was 1980s. At this point it's 35 years old, so I'm not sure how much it influences kids today. The most recent example I remember is the Love Actually cue card guy, who everyone makes fun of, and Love Actually was 2003. Romcoms aren't such a big genre anymore. Are you guys still seeing it in current stuff -- like the last ~5 years?

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Since when did you think this ever stopped? It's literally been the standard formula for romcoms and romantic subplots in everything from sitcoms to action movies to anime as long as all of us have been alive.

small ghost
Jan 30, 2013

Yeah, I have to agree with Pick and Anne; it is true that we're locked in a feedback loop with all our media and its dominant narratives and that can have profound negative effects with regards to how we view and perform, say, relationships, and porn isn't unique in that sense. The hosed up attitudes common in mainstream porn are a hyper-condensed version of hosed up attitudes embedded in lots of media, sure.

What it is, though, is distinctly more visceral in that it directly models physical acts you might plausibly do to another person, in an area where we don't have a lot of counter-examples because we don't have good sex education, plus overall our cultural grasp on concepts like consent, respect and women being people is generally terrible. Which leads to situations like the normalisation of choking. This is a good but harrowing read charting the relationship between porn, sex, and domestic violence:
https://amp.theguardian.com/society/2019/jul/25/fatal-hateful-rise-of-choking-during-sex

Particularly notable, I think, is the part where they talk to individuals about their sex lives and unpack how much people operate assumptively in sexual situations.

I don't hate porn as a concept or anything, it's a performance art and a form of entertainment and this:

Tenebrais posted:

In both cases the problem is having most of your experience of a human interaction being from something done for the benefit of an audience rather than the participants. What porn does for sex, rom-coms do for the relationships around it.

is ultimately the crux of why the porn intensification cycle happens, but porn definitely has some specific harmful outcomes that are unique to it.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


lol even the Always Sunny gang understood that the famous Revenge of the Nerds locker room scene was sexual assault and that's a show about literally the worst people imaginable

e: they even mention the whole "why did they call these things 'pranks' when they're obviously just sexual harrassment/assault" bit

Snow Cone Capone fucked around with this message at 17:52 on May 4, 2020

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
Thank you small ghost, that is a good post.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Anne Whateley posted:

I mean that's definitely a thing, but like Revenge of the Nerds and the other stuff was 1980s. At this point it's 35 years old, so I'm not sure how much it influences kids today. The most recent example I remember is the Love Actually cue card guy, who everyone makes fun of, and Love Actually was 2003. Romcoms aren't such a big genre anymore. Are you guys still seeing it in current stuff -- like the last ~5 years?

There was joke on Modern Family recently that Manny, this intellectual, kind, sensitive guy who was crushing on this girl who went for the dumb jock Luke instead and it was all about how Manny planned this elaborate attempt, dinner, flowers, read poetry, to woo her and she just ditched him for his cousin.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Since when did you think this ever stopped? It's literally been the standard formula for romcoms and romantic subplots in everything from sitcoms to action movies to anime as long as all of us have been alive.
The big romcoms I remember from the last couple years are Isn't It Romantic, The Big Sick, and To All the Boys I've Loved Before, none of which really have a plot like that.

But obviously there's a lot of stuff I haven't watched or seen, which I'm asking about. Pentyne has a great example

Snow Cone Capone posted:

lol even the Always Sunny gang understood that the famous Revenge of the Nerds locker room scene was sexual assault and that's a show about literally the worst people imaginable

e: they even mention the whole "why did they call these things 'pranks' when they're obviously just sexual harrassment/assault" bit
yes I totally get that, it was appalling, Sixteen Candles, Porky's, etc., I'm just asking about more recent examples that would affect kids today and not 35 years ago

Anne Whateley fucked around with this message at 18:00 on May 4, 2020

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011
Passengers isn't a rom-com but was very hosed up in that way.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I mean less the whole outright sexual harassment but definitely the whole 'spending months to years stalking and pining over a specific person while never actually just asking them out until you finally make a big elaborate proposal, preferably just after she's had her heart broken by her stupid jock boyfriend' thing. The whole thing that encourages young men to get incredibly over-invested, having tunnel vision and obsession over a specific woman and putting her on a pedestal and, as said, extremely frequently having an ugly public meltdown at the most cordial rejection. If they don't end up stewing in social anxiety and entitlement until it ends in violence.

Though this basically sums it up:

pentyne posted:

One candidate is the "all woman are confused and date jerks and just need a gentle, quirky guy friend who they'll fall in love with eventually"

It's lead to at least 1 mass shooting, likely a large amount of sexual assault, no end of stalking and creepy behavior, and a general sense of fear and worry for girls and women in general.

A girl has That One Male Friend who they thought they could trust and talk to, and suddenly one day the guy goes in to kiss her and when she rejects it he starts screaming that she's a whore and he's done so much for her.

Otherwise known as the whole 'Nice Guy' phenomenon. With the problem being that boys are taught from birth this is the ideal, and especially for the socially awkward and isolated it can be difficult for them to learn that reality is basically the opposite of everything they've been taught. And it's almost as bad when it works, given it's basically wearing down a woman until she gives in to a man who then probably immediately begins to take her for granted as he thinks he's won the game.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
I was pleasantly surprised to see Alta Mar, a Spanish drama available on Netflix, swim against this by having a love triangle plot where this nice guy is wooing this girl, but she's not interested, instead going for his richer, womanizing boss, and after he does something stupid about it and gets berated for it, the two of them develop an enduring friendship where they're very supportive of each other, and it's not pictured as inferior to a romantic relationship.

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



small ghost posted:

Yeah, I have to agree with Pick and Anne; it is true that we're locked in a feedback loop with all our media and its dominant narratives and that can have profound negative effects with regards to how we view and perform, say, relationships, and porn isn't unique in that sense. The hosed up attitudes common in mainstream porn are a hyper-condensed version of hosed up attitudes embedded in lots of media, sure.
Like the Democratic party thinking West Wing was how real life worked.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Terrible Opinions posted:

Like the Democratic party thinking West Wing was how real life worked.

:gonk:

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

Nap Ghost

Terrible Opinions posted:

Like the Democratic party thinking West Wing was how real life worked.

loving hell thats accurate. Except you can also throw in everything Sorkin on top of the West Wing.

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost
There's also the Happily Ever After lie. I've been married to the girl of my dreams for almost 20 years. She's my best friend. She's my life partner. She's the best thing that ever happened to me. But our relationship still requires work every day. We still argue and fight occasionally. We still make mistakes with each other. But we're lucky to be in a healthy relationship where we're both willing to admit we're wrong and make changes for the better. And it will be this way forever. There is no such thing as Happily Ever After and I think that Disney and every other media outlet like them has done severe harm to the world through selling that lie. Probably not as much harm and popularizing and normalizing choking during sex but it's loving crazy how many people still buy into that lovely farce that once two fall in love that's it, no more effort required. Everything will always be this way. Ugh.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
I really feel if anything, modern media beats to death that the old Disney rules from 1955 don't apply. To excess, even.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Arivia posted:

Passengers isn't a rom-com but was very hosed up in that way.

Passengers, a movie that came out in 2016 is billed as a sci-fi romance.

If you are a woman watching it, it is a loving visceral horror film from the depths of your deepest fears. It got savaged by female reviews and rightly so, it normalizes extreme stalking and gaslighting behavior as a way to win over someone's love if you are just a Nice Person.

You could probably break down the reviews of the movie by gender and see a massive imbalance for pro vs con.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Elephant Ambush posted:

There's also the Happily Ever After lie. I've been married to the girl of my dreams for almost 20 years. She's my best friend. She's my life partner. She's the best thing that ever happened to me. But our relationship still requires work every day. We still argue and fight occasionally. We still make mistakes with each other. But we're lucky to be in a healthy relationship where we're both willing to admit we're wrong and make changes for the better. And it will be this way forever. There is no such thing as Happily Ever After and I think that Disney and every other media outlet like them has done severe harm to the world through selling that lie. Probably not as much harm and popularizing and normalizing choking during sex but it's loving crazy how many people still buy into that lovely farce that once two fall in love that's it, no more effort required. Everything will always be this way. Ugh.

https://twitter.com/GraceSpelman/status/1029861452444782592

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Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



One More Fat Nerd posted:

loving hell thats accurate. Except you can also throw in everything Sorkin on top of the West Wing.
Sorkin is second only to Ayn Rand in terms of fictions writers causing harm to modern Americans.

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