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oh but seriously I posted:The only way to not kill us all... is to kill us all. Anti-time. We have to go back... to the future. oh but seriously I posted:The only way to not kill us all... is to kill us all. O'brien is about Seriously, just tell past crew what's what oh but seriously I posted:The only way to not kill us all... is to kill us all. OTHER NAME OF THE SHOW The Trial never ends OMG Q you are a sexy bitch Aaaaand.... now I am crying. Shaky start, but it finished strong Sorry about this outburst. It will not occur again.
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I will take a short break and then I will do The Voyager. I promise to constrain it to one post.
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May 3, 2020 03:12
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What the gently caress is going on in here? I thought Picard season 1 was over? What's with all these total plausible quotes from Picard?
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Sooooo.... here we go with this. Ah, parts 1 & 2 are combined together because I must be punished. We open with The Voyager being seen back in with fireworks. Oh, poo poo that was all the past. Janeway has aged, which is treated as a shocking scene zero twist. gently caress, this mediocre space opera had a seriously stirring introduction. Old Harry has been away. Grandma Janeway is.... hitting on Harry? Joe the Doctor will outlive his mortal wife, as he is eternal. B''Lenna checks in with El Capitan. Tuvok is not well. Barclay is also old & hosed and proposes a toast. We learn of the Borg in CGI San Francisco. Is that Barclay?! Admiral Janeway excuses herself and gets into some shady poo poo. K-Mew checks in on Tuvok, who has had a psychotic break. I have just noticed that Janeway does that same kind of weirdo voice modulation that Bane from out of Batman does, which is super-cool. Janeway is off. The Doctor checks The Janeways health. The Doctor expresses his appreciation for MILFs Janeway Requires Space Drugs It was Barclay. He sees Janeway off. Chakoty is dead. Didn't we not just see him? Ah, it is Seven. BACK TO THE PAST we get some skippable nonsense. It really should have been JanewayxChacotay over the incomprehensible SevenxChakoty angle. Eyeball death borg plays kerplunk. He wrecks Tuvok's poo poo. Harry is the worst. Tuvok's mind is going. Don't forget, he's real old. gently caress off, Neelix Ah, thank god,some space bullshti., A wormhole? Janeway is totally hitting on Kim. Back in the future, Tuvok flips out. The Doc interrogates Future Reg. Some Klingon bullshit. Janeway is aggressively horned up Back in the past, it's the fukken borg queen. She leaves The Voyager alone, because... Harry is aggressively horned up. He accosts Paris. Chakotay is aggressively horned up. He accosts Seven. Seriously. All of you. Keep it in your pants. Seven gets De-Borged. The Doctor is aggressively horned up. Jesus Christ Future Janeway steals some Klingon poo poo. Janeway seriously has the coolest loving diction She completely owns Harry poo poo and sends him on his way Past Seven and Chakoty do... whatever Future Janeway and Harry are actually aligned and do some bullshit Future Janeway tells past Janeway they are going home . The Borg Queen watches on because this is literally a cartoon Janeway vs. Janeway gets really camp. The Janeways hatch a plan. Have I mention just how cool Janeway's vocal stylings are. The Borg Queen psychically projects at 7 and gets unnecessarily horned up. Just assume everybody involved is acting like a 1940s femme fatale unless otherwise specified Tom loving Paris acts like a 1940s femme fatale. Was this show actually good? Borg Fight. Space Amour. Some Borgs explode. Trans Warp Hub Janeway fight. Warp nonsense. The dream team hatch a plan. The Janeways hash it out. They attempt to out husky voice each other. Then they start Really Dramatically Whispering BOLD NOTION: Voyager is Good Tuvok Dying. 7 & Future Janeway get real dramatic Harry loving Kim gives a stirring monologue. Was everyone just on tip-top form this day or has The Roni destroyed my mind? Janeway vs Janeway camp-fest once again Janeway vs Janeway camp-fest once again Old Janeway goes on her way. Things get weird with 7 and Chocatay. It all gets a bit Days of Our lives. And then again with the T'ores/Paris. This mess is vacillating between High Camp enjoyable and A Soap Opera faster than I can scribe Borg stuff. Janeway accosts the Borg.Yes, once again things get weird. They cut a deal. This is power rangers Borg dude campily assimilates Old Janeway. But it is all a ruse. Borgs die, poo poo explodes. Mind War Old Janeway dies Oh, it is Paris's dad. V'ger arrives home and a baby is born. No moral. Maybe it is just poo poo
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May 3, 2020 05:52
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Endgame is 45 minutes of waiting for the five minutes at the end to happen, and 45 minutes of zero dramatic weight because the ship has literal plot armor and the writers gave zero fucks anymore because they wanted the show dead and buried.
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May 3, 2020 06:02
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Endgame is 45 minutes of waiting for the five minutes at the end to happen, and 45 minutes of zero dramatic weight because the ship has literal plot armor and the writers gave zero fucks anymore because they wanted the show dead and buried. Watching it even as a kid, I knew that ending was absolute "phone it in" poo poo.
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May 3, 2020 07:46
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Kibayasu posted:This may just be an excuse to link another Garak scene because it doesn’t have anything to do with lying but there is also the scene at the end Cardassian/Romulan 2 parter with Odo which is in Garak’s shop Apparently Auberjonois couldn't be at the shoot that day so they improvised this instead, using Odo's stunt double as the stand-in and the dirty mirror to mask the substitution. What a happy accident, the way all the focus is on Garak while the mirror emphasizes Odo's ambiguous feelings at that moment (not to mention his fundamental formlessness as a changeling) makes this perfect. 
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May 3, 2020 08:56
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Rewatching some DS9 episodes I skipped previously because the plot summary sounded meh and saw some stuff with Nog joining Starfleet that I missed before. Nog is good. Rom is good too. (RIP Nog's actor)
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May 3, 2020 17:37
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barbecue at the folks posted:Apparently Auberjonois couldn't be at the shoot that day so they improvised this instead, using Odo's stunt double as the stand-in and the dirty mirror to mask the substitution. What a happy accident, the way all the focus is on Garak while the mirror emphasizes Odo's ambiguous feelings at that moment (not to mention his fundamental formlessness as a changeling) makes this perfect. neat
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May 3, 2020 19:16
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Parts Kit posted:Rewatching some DS9 episodes I skipped previously because the plot summary sounded meh and saw some stuff with Nog joining Starfleet that I missed before. The Ferengi actors slowly become the best thing about DS9, second only to Garak. Zek is the only semi-weak Ferengi character but that’s excusable when he’s still played by Wallace Shawn. The one where Quark goes home to deal with his rebellious mother and has to navigate the bureaucracy is low-key one of my favorite episodes.
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May 3, 2020 19:49
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The one where Quark equates greed with self improvement to convince the wormhole aliens to undo their de-evolution of Zek is great because he ends up annoying them into fixing the issue.
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May 3, 2020 22:00
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barbecue at the folks posted:Apparently Auberjonois couldn't be at the shoot that day so they improvised this instead, using Odo's stunt double as the stand-in and the dirty mirror to mask the substitution. What a happy accident, the way all the focus is on Garak while the mirror emphasizes Odo's ambiguous feelings at that moment (not to mention his fundamental formlessness as a changeling) makes this perfect. I'm now imagining some contemporary hacky version of this where instead of using a creative trick to hide the stunt double and end up with a beautifully shot scene, they just create a CG frankenstein by superimposing Rene Auberjonois' face a la Cats. his face swimming around on the head with every slight movement.
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May 3, 2020 23:18
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piratepilates posted:I'm now imagining some contemporary hacky version of this where instead of using a creative trick to hide the stunt double and end up with a beautifully shot scene, they just create a CG frankenstein by superimposing Rene Auberjonois' face a la Cats. his face swimming around on the head with every slight movement. Although that would be sort of a cool Odo effect in general
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May 3, 2020 23:47
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Big Mean Jerk posted:The Ferengi actors slowly become the best thing about DS9, second only to Garak. Zek is the only semi-weak Ferengi character but that’s excusable when he’s still played by Wallace Shawn.
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May 4, 2020 00:48
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But nobody knows garak's name!
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Burn Notice but it's Garak.
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Garak, A man nobody knows (guitar riff starts to build and intensify into a crescendo) UNTRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTH 3... 2... 1... Tall tale! I'm here for fun Tailor number one (What are you saying?) (Frustration! No one can stop me!) One Lie! That's it! I always win!
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May 4, 2020 01:11
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what if garak really is a humble tailor and the tailor business in cardassia is just very cutthroat?
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May 4, 2020 01:14
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Brawnfire posted:Although that would be sort of a cool Odo effect in general Now I'm imagining just one episode that went all Cronenberg with Odo and had him sliming around and loving up his transformations like The Thing Basically the DS9 counterpart to TNG's "Conspiracy".
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May 4, 2020 01:17
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dudeness posted:Burn Notice but it's Garak. Garak would look rad in that red Satan suit.
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McSpanky posted:Now I'm imagining just one episode that went all Cronenberg with Odo and had him sliming around and loving up his transformations like The Thing If I was a thief or whatever on DS9 and all of a sudden some inconspicuous box turned into a man-sized version of the Spider-Head from The Thing and arrested me, not only would I swear off all crime forever, I’m pretty sure I’d warp the gently caress away from that sector for the rest of my natural life. Odo is a poo poo cop for not taking advantage of his ability to become a horrible monster.
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May 4, 2020 02:24
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those cgi transformations were very expensive, so they couldn't use them casually. as for much more elaborate and detailed cgi transformations? forget about it.
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May 4, 2020 02:39
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dudeness posted:Burn Notice but it's Garak. he needs the shirts
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May 4, 2020 03:06
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I'm rewatching Non Sequitur and that Libby is a tasty lady. Love those eyebrows
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:those cgi transformations were very expensive, so they couldn't use them casually. as for much more elaborate and detailed cgi transformations? forget about it. We're at the state where Star Trek is prestige TV and if you don't spend ludicrous amounts of money overproducing every single shot then the shareholders will get mad at you for being lazy and not doing your best to make the show profitable. No I don't know how that works either. What I do know is that when it comes to cinematography, the underlying skeletal structure of a scene is more important than any amount of CGI or flashy camera work. Sacrifice of Angels looks just as good now as it did in the 90s while the battle at the end of Discovery or the big Lotus ships in Picard look bad.
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Arcsquad12 posted:We're at the state where Star Trek is prestige TV and if you don't spend ludicrous amounts of money overproducing every single shot then the shareholders will get mad at you for being lazy and not doing your best to make the show profitable. i was talking about ds9's production, not the shiny heap of poo poo we have now. it'd be trivially cheap and easy to do odo's rather lackluster shapeshifting today, but no one is going to revisit odo or anything else from ds9. s31 is the only thing from ds9 kurtzmann and his gang of subhumans has any interest in.
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I watched Wrath of Khan from start to finish last night. Discovery and Picard are complete poo poo and should never have been made.
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Discovery's alright.
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DebonaireD posted:Discovery's alright. Mods!?!
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it's true, discovery is only moderately worse than the worst enterprise episodes.
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Discovery is good if you take into account the Picard Factor.
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picard presents the star trek universe only slightly less accurately than tj hooker does. so you know, it's not that bad.
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The General posted:Discovery is good if you take into account the Picard Factor. Disco is good if you spend a few hours editing a Pike supercut.
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piratepilates posted:I'm now imagining some contemporary hacky version of this where instead of using a creative trick to hide the stunt double and end up with a beautifully shot scene, they just create a CG frankenstein by superimposing Rene Auberjonois' face a la Cats. his face swimming around on the head with every slight movement. I mean, the scene is awesome because Garak just spent an episode torturing Odo, a man not known for his forgiving nature, and the moment he spies Odo on the dirty mirror Garak knows that he's in for some holy retribution, possible expulsion from the station or something a lot worse. Odo, on his part, has just spent the last episode being tortured by Garak, finally spilling his guts out, and is probably half a mind to throw the book at Garak as hard as he can. However, he also knows that he has a kindred spirit and a possible friend in Garak and decides to follow his better instincts instead. That we cannot make out Odo from the mirror tells us everything we have to know about his emotional state and the ongoing struggle with his changeling identity. All the while the camera stays focused on Andrew Robinson conveying the entire range of emotion from sadness to resentment to fear to eventual surprise on the face of a man who has learned to stay alive by keeping those emotions at check at all times and only the corners of his mouth and eyes divulge the storm inside. No cuts, a single shot that lets the theatrical composition of the scene work its magic. Modern day Trek would deliberately gently caress this up in every way possible way to sap it out of the last drop of meaningful drama and replace all of it with PRESTIGE TV.
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Blistex posted:Disco is good if you spend a few hours editing a Pike supercut. If CBS had a lick of sense, they'd have taken one look at Ansem Mount's performance in Disco season 2 and started trying to cobble together a Star Trek: Early Years spinoff show immediately  . Not like they don't have THE most important set ready to go or anything...
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Neddy Seagoon posted:If CBS had a lick of sense, they'd have taken one look at Ansem Mount's performance in Disco season 2 and started trying to cobble together a Star Trek: Early Years spinoff show immediately The fan reaction to Pike, New-new-spock, and the Enterprise was loud enough to be heard by studio execs sticking their heads out the window. . . which leads me to believe it will never happen.
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Blistex posted:The fan reaction to Pike, New-new-spock, and the Enterprise was loud enough to be heard by studio execs sticking their heads out the window. . . which leads me to believe it will never happen. It's almost a certainty that some eager young executive producer walked out of a C-level suite, hat in hand, after some corporate idiot shot down their idea for Star Trek: Pike because it would compete with said corporate idiot's pet project, Star Trek: Section 31.
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DS9 made it seem like Section 31 had only one operative who is the entire bureau and that is the only interpretation of Section 31 that I respect.
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Applewhite posted:DS9 made it seem like Section 31 had only one operative who is the entire bureau and that is the only interpretation of Section 31 that I respect. That makes very little sense because Sloan clearly has some resources to keep himself semi-hidden. A more accurate read is that section 31 is probably just 10-20 people who have wormed their way into critical but not necessarily high ranking positions throughout Starfleet. They don't have any real power but are capable of going undetected and causing havoc because they have their ears to the right walls.
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Besides the two goons who appear with Sloan in the introductory episode, since they just seem to be muscle, Section 31 had at least three operatives that we know of. Sloan, Vice Admiral Ross, and Dr. Julian Bashir.
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