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Bert of the Forest
Apr 27, 2013

Shucks folks, I'm speechless. Hawf Hawf Hawf!
For anyone here who watches Ross's Game Dungeon, I got a brain worm over the weekend that made me NEED a Game Dungeon t-shirt, and since there's nothing official available, I decided to spend a few days making a design to print on my own. I'm pretty drat proud of it, I must say, as I wanted something in Cavity Colors' signature style and I think I nailed it pretty well.

https://twitter.com/SlickNickLives/status/1257885744351154182

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Jamie Faith
Jan 13, 2020

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

The Bush era was an absolute cultural nadir, a second 80s except without good horror movies. Music, television, literature, fashion, design: it was all utter trash.

For music there was Linkin Park, Eiffel 65, Smash Mouth (which is unironically good! gently caress you)and a ton of other stuff.

For tv, there was Avatar the last Airbender, Teen Titans, Spongbob (the golden years) The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy, Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, Brandy and Mr. Whiskers, Dave the Barbarian, Jimmy Neutron, Ned's Declassified School Survival Guide, Drake & Josh, the list goes on and on. Holy poo poo the 2000s was a great era for cartoons and kid shows.

For Design, there was Y2K aesthetic (which was still around and common up until at least 06/07)

Basically what I'm saying is Antifa Turkeesian you are horribly incorrect.

Jamie Faith
Jan 13, 2020

gently caress I didnt even mention any of the games??? Like most of the greatest gaming series got their best games or got started in the 2000s. I don't know what crap ya'll were into but for me, the 2000s were the best. lol there's a reason my custom title is "Y2K girl" lol

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Smash Mouth was the 90s. I did forget about Avatar and Teen Titans, though. And Justice League. I guess I was out of the target range for the rest of the kids’ tv of that time. Battlestsr Galactica was a revelation at the time but has probably aged horribly. I’ll still defend Lost (but not in this thread).

dmboogie
Oct 4, 2013

Bert of the Forest posted:

For anyone here who watches Ross's Game Dungeon, I got a brain worm over the weekend that made me NEED a Game Dungeon t-shirt, and since there's nothing official available, I decided to spend a few days making a design to print on my own. I'm pretty drat proud of it, I must say, as I wanted something in Cavity Colors' signature style and I think I nailed it pretty well.

https://twitter.com/SlickNickLives/status/1257885744351154182

hey this is pretty rad

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Battlestar Galactica holds up and while the miniseries did feel obligated to do a 9/11 allegory it at least did so without turning into rampant jingoism. It focused instead on the uncertainty and panic surrounding the attacks rather than on oorah let's kill people dogma. There's plenty of stupid poo poo even in the first (and best) season but it nails tone and aesthetic and the acting was never bad. It was RDM's anti star trek where he dived into all the themes he wasn't allowed to discuss while he was writing for TNG and DS9. Even the weakest part of the show, the humanoid cylons, were at least buoyed up by excellent acting.

Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 06:15 on May 6, 2020

Jamie Faith
Jan 13, 2020

Casey Finnigan posted:

It felt like the Y2K stuff was the last little extension of the wacky, wild 90s design sensibility and then everything that was visually dynamic or interesting just instantly fell out of favor in 2001.

Idk how it was in other countries, but when I was kid during the Bush era, it felt like American popular culture was just miserable, angry, jingoistic trash. But also I guess pretty much the only thing I did in that era was play military FPS games and watch action movies.

Hm yeah, there's your problem, in the early 2000s I was just a kid (7 years old in 2000) so I grew up with N64, Playstation, PS2, and Gamecube and when I wasn't playing video games, I was watching Nickelodeon or Cartoon Network. I was too little to understand politics or what was going on in the world so I missed all the bullshit.

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

Smash Mouth was the 90s. I did forget about Avatar and Teen Titans, though. And Justice League. I guess I was out of the target range for the rest of the kids’ tv of that time. Battlestsr Galactica was a revelation at the time but has probably aged horribly. I’ll still defend Lost (but not in this thread).

For me, Smash Mouth is the 2000s because that's when all their songs were showing up in kids movies (like Shrek and Big Fat Liar and Snow Day and Clockstoppers) and cartoons like Kim Possible.

https://twitter.com/Early2000sStuff/status/1215059158493552642


I think theres kind of an age factor. If you were older, like say late high school or college age then sure, all the boring adult shows and political crap going on sucked. But if you were a young kid like me at the time, it was a magical time.

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

the bush years are when fernando got his only 2 championships so it's impossible to say if they were good or bad

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



the 00s were loving awful. by far the worst decade i've lived through including the current one i almost certainly won't.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Jamie Faith posted:

Hm yeah, there's your problem, in the early 2000s I was just a kid (7 years old in 2000) so I grew up with N64, Playstation, PS2, and Gamecube and when I wasn't playing video games, I was watching Nickelodeon or Cartoon Network. I was too little to understand politics or what was going on in the world so I missed all the bullshit.


For me, Smash Mouth is the 2000s because that's when all their songs were showing up in kids movies (like Shrek and Big Fat Liar and Snow Day and Clockstoppers) and cartoons like Kim Possible.

https://twitter.com/Early2000sStuff/status/1215059158493552642


I think theres kind of an age factor. If you were older, like say late high school or college age then sure, all the boring adult shows and political crap going on sucked. But if you were a young kid like me at the time, it was a magical time.

I get you. I feel about the 90s the way you feel about the 00s.

Beefstew
Oct 30, 2010

I told you that story so I could tell you this one...
I hate 00's music but the cartoons then were choice. As stated, stuff like Avatar and Teen Titans hold up to this day.

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

I think my mass effect is broken

Jamie Faith posted:

Smash Mouth is the 2000s

The two songs they're most remember for were both from the late 90s. poo poo, All Star wasn't even recorded for the movie it's most associated with. Can't stand that loving song now though, and Shrek was never good.

Walkin' on the Sun still holds up though.

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

Vagabundo posted:

The two songs they're most remember for were both from the late 90s. poo poo, All Star wasn't even recorded for the movie it's most associated with. Can't stand that loving song now though, and Shrek was never good.

Walkin' on the Sun still holds up though.

nothing like a song written in response to the LA riots including the lyric "put away the crack before the crack puts you away"

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



:stare:

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

I think my mass effect is broken

Alaois posted:

nothing like a song written in response to the LA riots including the lyric "put away the crack before the crack puts you away"

Do you mind posting a list of who is allowed to make references to the crack epidemic and its media coverage?

Archer666
Dec 27, 2008

Alaois posted:

nothing like a song written in response to the LA riots including the lyric "put away the crack before the crack puts you away"

Smash Mouth eat the eggs before the eggs eat you

Jamie Faith
Jan 13, 2020

Alaois posted:

nothing like a song written in response to the LA riots including the lyric "put away the crack before the crack puts you away"

Citation extremely needed lol

Smash Mouth is actually a pretty progressive band. All-Star is about climate change (seriously) and they made a song supporting bisexual people long before gay rights were widely accepted.

Zedd
Jul 6, 2009

I mean, who would have noticed another madman around here?



MonsieurChoc posted:

I still like Linkin Park.

Same, at the time I hated that they changed their sound every album but now it really helped them age better; artists should be able to evolve. Still sad about what happened to Chester.

fun hater
May 24, 2009

its a neat trick, but you can only do it once
i am personally of the opinion that while of i can pick out a handful of favorite things from the early 2000s/bush years, a great majority of the mainstream was dictated and spearheaded by some of the most wrongheaded, vile thought processes and people.

soneone earlier mentioned 'saw' which imo lead to at lead a decade of awful torture porn horror being the hot trend.

Jamie Faith posted:

Citation extremely needed lol


you can just....google this and find it easily

Calico Heart
Mar 22, 2012

"wich the worst part was what troll face did to sonic's corpse after words wich was rape it. at that point i looked away"



IMO the Bush years were hard on movies and videogames but had some of the best broadcast media that's been produced, and where many view "the golden age of TV" beginning. In the space of a few years we had prestige shows like The Sopranos, The Wire, Deadwood, Band of Brothers, Mad Men, Oz, Six Feet Under, In Treatment, Breaking Bad, Scrubs, Rome, Treme and Boardwalk Empire to name just a few that come to mind. Each of these shows were ambitious, weird had ten times the budget and creators ten times the control they would have had if they were made just ten years earlier.

I don't want to sound like a cranky old man or poo-poo any good new shows, but I would also go a step farther and say it kinda ended before Obama's term was up. There was a time between "shows actually getting a substantial budget for the first time" and the advent of streaming services/netflix domination where channels were genuinely, honest-to-god trying to win people by having the best prestige tv they could. While budgets are still high, the current model is now "we need as much !!!EXCLUSIVE CONTENT!!! as possible".

Again, this isn't to say that there still aren't good shows being made, but I think that streaming services didn't really deliver on their promise of revolutionising TB and have just become a replacement for cable; lots of cheap poo poo you can watch at your leisure.

Calico Heart fucked around with this message at 12:55 on May 6, 2020

fun hater
May 24, 2009

its a neat trick, but you can only do it once
breaking bad was 2008.

im watching the sopranos for the first time now and while the comedy is still 100% gold, 80% of the drama has aged like milk. its def a show that crawled ao every other drama could walk. for every scene that works (tony's mom's funeral is a wonderful nightmare) theres like 3 that dont

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Yardbomb posted:

You can gently caress right off, horror has always had great stuff from any era.

Like the OG Saw movie was great, Trick 'r Treat, May, Ginger Snaps, Bubba Ho-Tep, American Psycho if you count it and so on.

I have to add Behind the Mask: The Rise of Leslie Vernon which is a way better horror deconstruction before people decided that's what we needed.

Shaun of the Dead came out in '04. Begone with this 'everything from the '00s is bad.'

Calico Heart
Mar 22, 2012

"wich the worst part was what troll face did to sonic's corpse after words wich was rape it. at that point i looked away"



I will say I think mid-to-late 2000's pop music was pretty dire. That was the period where every single song had to be a club song and because of that they all kinda blurred together on the radio in a repetitive bassy mess.

But I also love the indie scene that begun around the early/late 2000s, so whateva

fun hater posted:

breaking bad was 2008.

im watching the sopranos for the first time now and while the comedy is still 100% gold, 80% of the drama has aged like milk. its def a show that crawled ao every other drama could walk. for every scene that works (tony's mom's funeral is a wonderful nightmare) theres like 3 that dont

If I recall, in the first few seasons they were really wrestling with creative because they essentially wanted to make the show as art house and weird as possible and HBO were a bit too scared to pull the trigger. As the show goes on the creative team are eventually given free loving reign which imo is where the show loving rules. Weird bleeding statues appearing in pubs to heavy metal music. Entire episode-long dream sequences. Ben Kingsley playing himself getting robbed and punched in the face. Chicken Town.

tbf it's been ages since I've seen it but it's amazing that the most popular show in the world had the loving balls to air an episode like Heidi and Kennedy or The Test Dream or the two-part episode that was Tony in a coma in a Silent-Hill esque dream world where he was a car salesman who hosed over some buddhist monks and got stranded at a hotel

Calico Heart fucked around with this message at 13:20 on May 6, 2020

fun hater
May 24, 2009

its a neat trick, but you can only do it once

Dawgstar posted:

I have to add Behind the Mask: The Rise of Leslie Vernon which is a way better horror deconstruction before people decided that's what we needed.

Shaun of the Dead came out in '04. Begone with this 'everything from the '00s is bad.'

LESLIE VERNON RULES, that movie is so much fun

these future sopranos eps sound so much better than the awful violent rape episode it subjected me to. honestly everytime theres a dream sequence i go apeshit because theyre always so good. the extended storyline involving tonys trauma re: talking fish was incredible

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
The 2000's was PHENOMENAL decade for anime. Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, Samurai Champloo, Eureka Seven, Monster, Death Note, Fullmetal Alchemist and Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, Aria, Welcome to the NHK, Mushishi, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex and 2nd Gig, FLCL, Diebuster, Turn A Gundam, Lovely Complex, Code Geass, Fullmetal Panic, Big O, Black Lagoon, Baccano, Paranoia Agent, Haibane Renmei, Sayonara Zetsubou-sensei, Kino's Journey, Gankutsuou: The Count of Monte Cristo, Mononoke, Azumanga Daioh, Planetes, Honey and Clover, Princess Tutu, Rahxephon, there's a lot more I'm forgetting or missed I'm sure.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

The 2000s were a pretty solid time for movies. Perhaps not as good as the 2010s but heck I don't think it'd be too contentious to say that the 2010s were the best decade for film since the 70s so I won't hold that against the 2000s.

Captain Invictus posted:

the oughts had tons of amazing anime, too. Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, Samurai Champloo, Eureka Seven, Monster, Death Note, Fullmetal Alchemist and Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, Aria, Welcome to the NHK, Mushishi, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex and 2nd Gig, FLCL, Diebuster, Turn A Gundam, Lovely Complex, Code Geass, Fullmetal Panic, Big O, Black Lagoon, Baccano, Paranoia Agent, Haibane Renmei, Sayonara Zetsubou-sensei, Kino's Journey, Gankutsuou: The Count of Monte Cristo, Mononoke, Azumanga Daioh, Planetes, Honey and Clover, Princess Tutu, Rahxephon, there's a lot more I'm forgetting or missed I'm sure.

The 2000s was a FANTASTIC decade for anime.

Yea there were the growing pains in the early part of the decade during the transition to digital but there was a lot of ambition going on too and heck I'm fine with that tradeoff.

Trojan Kaiju
Feb 13, 2012


Vagabundo posted:

The two songs they're most remember for were both from the late 90s. poo poo, All Star wasn't even recorded for the movie it's most associated with. Can't stand that loving song now though, and Shrek was never good.

Walkin' on the Sun still holds up though.

While All Star's release is pre-2000s, it's cultural significance stems mostly from being in like 4 movies from 1999-2001 which, if you were a kid constantly rewatching Digimon the Movie with its bangin' soundtrack, absolutely can make Smash Mouth a fixture of the early 00s.

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

Vagabundo posted:

Do you mind posting a list of who is allowed to make references to the crack epidemic and its media coverage?

can the list be "literally anyone but Smash Mouth"

Jamie Faith posted:

Citation extremely needed lol

Smash Mouth is actually a pretty progressive band. All-Star is about climate change (seriously) and they made a song supporting bisexual people long before gay rights were widely accepted.

what do you mean "citation needed' those are the loving lyrics in the song

Alaois fucked around with this message at 14:15 on May 6, 2020

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
New video from Patrick Willems about Predator

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InyKZ0F-fVU

watho
Aug 2, 2013


The real world will, again tomorrow, function and run without me.

the 00s were a bad decade for music if you only listened to radio pop maybe but many of my all-time favorite albums came out around that time. Art punk, garage rock revival, and electroclash were all happening during that time. The emo/post-hardcore scenes had some amazing bands come out of them. and also more complex computers and DAWs led to a lot of really cool experimental electronic music as well

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money
You know how they found all that hilarious graffiti in Pompeii and stuff? I like to wonder if those people complained about how their music was so much better in the 760's than the 770's or something.

Captain Invictus posted:

The 2000's was PHENOMENAL decade for anime. Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, Samurai Champloo, Eureka Seven, Monster, Death Note, Fullmetal Alchemist and Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, Aria, Welcome to the NHK, Mushishi, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex and 2nd Gig, FLCL, Diebuster, Turn A Gundam, Lovely Complex, Code Geass, Fullmetal Panic, Big O, Black Lagoon, Baccano, Paranoia Agent, Haibane Renmei, Sayonara Zetsubou-sensei, Kino's Journey, Gankutsuou: The Count of Monte Cristo, Mononoke, Azumanga Daioh, Planetes, Honey and Clover, Princess Tutu, Rahxephon, there's a lot more I'm forgetting or missed I'm sure.

Yeah it was a pretty good time to watch Adult Swim I guess.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

The biggest revelation for me was Chumbawumba are very political and actively hosed with their recording labels and are all-around pretty cool.

CmdrKing
Oct 14, 2012

Maybe if I called it 'Interpretive Stabbing'...

Pants Donkey posted:

The biggest revelation for me was Chumbawumba are very political and actively hosed with their recording labels and are all-around pretty cool.

Todd’s video about TubThumping was invaluable for bringing that to a wider audience alone.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Jamie Faith posted:

Citation extremely needed lol

Greg Camp posted:

"Well, this is a long time ago. This is over 20 years ago that song was written, and it was written during the whole Rodney King thing. The song was basically a social and racial battle cry. It was a sort of “Can’t we all get along?” song for the time when I wrote it.

It was just about all the things that were going on around me as a young person. And I’m, like, God, what is going on? I don’t understand why this is happening. It’s like we might as well be walking around a planet on fire. And that’s how it came about."

Bonaventure
Jun 23, 2005

by sebmojo
smash mouth anti-crack, anti-eggs... id like to smash his mouth myself

The Chad Jihad
Feb 24, 2007


One Tree Hill captured the zeitgeist of the 00s better than almost any media

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dhmLjwIb4I

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

Jamie Faith posted:

All-Star is about climate change (seriously)

I started reciting the lyrics in my head and :stare: you're right. I thought it was metaphorical.

fun hater
May 24, 2009

its a neat trick, but you can only do it once

holy poo poo lmfao

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fun hater
May 24, 2009

its a neat trick, but you can only do it once
ive completely reversed my position on early 2000s media based on that scene alone wtf i love the 2000s now

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